also what exactly is Zionism? Is it Zionism to believe that 5 mln Israelis should not be slaughtered by Arabs and that to that end they can defend themselves even if it's causing death and destruction? Or is non-Zionism necessarily means that Israelis should cease their current land to Arabs and accept what would happen to them?
"I Am a Palestinian in Gaza and Hamas must Cede Control"
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By 'explained' you mean you ranted and yelled that all reports are wrong because everything and everyone is antisemitic and all Palestinians deserve to die.
Then you always follow up with accusing me of positions I obviously don't have, like 'being consumed with hate'.
As if arguing for the end of genocide, apartheid, the application of the law and basic human rights makes one 'consumed with hate'.
As the mayor Parrish said.
Crying zionism is just franky's way of projecting Jews are the bad guys...notice how him and Klatuu always post Israel vs. palestine and they won't mention Hamas and Hezbollah unless someone mentions the terrorists...then they are in full defensive mode about those 2 groups...he's like AI but not smart...his MO doesn't change... He cries genocide, then when you call him out that Hamas were to blame, he will cry racism towards palestinians... lather rinse repeat...
No, you've provided nothing.
There is nowhere safe in Gaza, Israel bombs hospitals, schools, shelters, homes and safe zones.
'Nowhere and no one is safe' in Gaza, WHO chief tells Security Council
The UN Security Council met again on Friday to discuss the ongoing Israel-Palestine crisis as negotiations continue behind the scenes within the 15 member body to reach some consensus position over the war raging in Gaza. Ambassadors heard searing testimony from the UN health agency chief who...
Warning people you are about to kill them doesn't make it ok to then kill them. Warning people you are going to destroy all civilian infrastructure doesn't make it ok to destroy all civilian infrastructure. Telling people there are safe zones and making them repeatedly move to them only to bomb them does not make bombing ok.
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3 accusations of lying- 0 proof
More stupid accusations where you make straw man claims about what I said then declare that means I lied.
Typical zionist bullshit.
Zionists are the biggest liars.
1) You now say you trust Hamas and Hamas' numbers counting the dead. Hilarious. You trust them more than the Lancet. Hilarious.According to Palestinian Ministry of Health those numbers are nowhere near accurate
as reported here.
The Palestinian Ministry of Health says more than 44,000 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli attacks and thousands more are buried under rubble and threatened by illness.
Israel-Gaza war in maps and charts: Live tracker
The latest death toll stands at 44,630 Palestinians and 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023.www.aljazeera.com
Here are the latest casualty figures as of 2:30pm in Gaza (12:30 GMT) on November 17:
Gaza
Killed: at least 43,846 people, including 16,765 children
Injured: more than 103,740 people
Missing: more than 10,000
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english.alarabiya.net
The health ministry in Gaza said on Thursday that at least 42,847 people have been killed in the year-long war between Israel and Palestinian militants.
The FUCKING PALESTINE MINISTRY OF HEATH says you are wrong.
As reported by aljazeera and an Egyptian source
You have made this claim multiple times after I have shown you evidence that it is wrong, from Palestinian sources as reported by Arabic news sources.
When you claim Shack accused you of lying without proof. yeah I kinda doubt that.
Out of a population of 2 million, in a built up area with a government actively trying to get their own people killed, 40K dead is the exact opposite of evidence of genocide. It's fighting with kid gloves. Yeah it's bad but you can't do much better without just having Israel roll over and allow themselves to be exterminated.
2) Israel has destroyed all hospitals where the dead are counted.
3) Israel is trying to kill all medical workers who count the dead and save more from dying.
4) Nobody knows how many bodies are buried in rubble, as they can't dig them out to count them.
5) There is no way to accurately count the number of dead when the remains are just parts of bodies.
6) The Lancet study includes those injured who will die in the near future, those who are suffering major medical issues that can't be treated because the health care system is destroyed. Those aren't counted as bodies.
7) The Lancet doesn't count those likely to die from starvation and illnesses caused by a year of starvation by zionists.
8) Israel kills all the journalists who report on the dead that they can, both in Gaza, the West Bank and now Lebanon.
You know what would have stopped Hamas from attacking?
Ending the fucking illegal occupation, ending apartheid rule and giving Palestinians basic human rights.
The only way to end the resistance against the illegal occupation of Palestine is to end the occupation and pay restitution.
As the world demands.
Basketcase intentionally misuses polling results in order to mischaracterize Palestinian views.
I've called him out on this repeatedly.
The same poll he quotes says that most Palestinians would accept the two state solution based on the borders that the UN used in their resolution calling for the end of the occupation of Palestine.
Right, you don't trust the Lancet, you trust Hamas' numbers.
Antisemitic.
Stop claiming all Jews are zionists.
Is Zionism inherently evil? Guys like Geno hurl it around as if it makes someone the worst person in the world?
From Oxford dictionary:
noun
Zionism (noun)
- a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.
There is nothing wrong with the concept of Zionism as defined by the dictionary. Being a Zionist is akin to being a patriot.
There should be more pushback when the term Zionist or Zionism is used in a defamatory manner, the way the Jew hating anti-Semites use it.
He’s calling for Jewish genocide anyway. Anyone proposing to allow Gazans freely enter israel territory aka “free Palestine” (before de radicalization that would take decades) is calling for a genocide. “From the river to the sea” is a call for genocide. It’s not even thinly veiled.
Gazans in israel would mean that israel will turn into gaza with street fighting and blood shed until the Jews are gone. Why the fuck would Israelis agree to that?
Pathetic hate speech argument.
Air raid sirens were used in Britain to give a few minutes warning of incoming missiles so people could hopefully find some place to hide and save lives.
Israel is acting as those air raid sirens and instead of just a few minutes, they are giving several hours advance notice. As NaD says, Israel is trying their hardest to save lives. If you're going to say that there's nowhere to hide that's because:
1)Hamas built no bomb shelters to protect Gazans. They built tunnels instead.
2)Hamas, who hides in the tunnels, refuse to give the Gazans access to them.
These tactics are how Hamas is using the civilians as pawns/human shields and increasing the death toll. That is what Hamas and you are looking for. More deaths=more anti-Israel rhetoric.
The Lancet never quoted any numbers. Who, on behalf of the Lancet publication quoted casualty numbers? NOBODY
Why do you think anybody trusts Hamas' numbers? They are obviously inflated AND include dead Hamas militia killed during battle.
The actual number of civilians killed might be half of Hamas' totals.
He displays his call for Jewish genocide in many different ways. I was simply pointing the one he uses by trying to equate Zionism with pure evil and he does this by trying to redefine what Zionism actually is. Zionism is akin to patriotism.
You are correct in saying that Zionism is only a bad word because it’s specifically and uniquely Jewish and it’s convenient for veiled expression of antisemitism and propaganda in the west where direct antisemitism would be less popular .
