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"I Am a Palestinian in Gaza and Hamas must Cede Control"

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I told you, its already reported as genocide.
Its just you that thinks you know better than Lemkin or the UN.
The UN which comprises of 160+ countries did not say anything.
The UN special committee did.
They produced a report.
I asked you what happens if the ICJ calls this not a genocide at the end of the day?
Where does that leave you?
 

Frankfooter

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The UN which comprises of 160+ countries did not say anything.
The UN special committee did.
They produced a report.
I asked you what happens if the ICJ calls this not a genocide at the end of the day?
Where does that leave you?
That would leave me as being cautious and still proud to have campaigned to end a war on civilians.
Whereas if the ICJ finds Israel guilty of genocide after years of trials that leaves you as backing genocide despite all the evidence.

Your choice.

 

shack

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What about it?
That's now how you decide if genocide is being committed.
A UNGA resolution is a hell of a lot better than one of their disgraced rapporteurs that you keep refencing.
A hell of a lot better than one of their agencies UNWRA that has been found complicit in perpetrating Oct.7.

How many times have you told us that we must always listen to what the UN tells us? They have passed no resolutions declaring that Israel has committed genocide or apartheid. You must listen.
 
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A UNGA resolution is a hell of a lot better than one of their disgraced rapporteurs that you keep refencing.
A hell of a lot better than one of their agencies UNWRA that has been found complicit in perpetrating Oct.7.

How many times have you told us that we must always listen to what the UN tells us? They have passed no resolutions declaring that Israel has committed genocide or apartheid. You must listen.
The ICJ trials will happen first, as they did with Bosnia.
Meanwhile, since you agree UN resolutions are important you must agree that Israel has been ordered to ceasefire, end the occupation, end apartheid, allow all refugees to return and pay restitution.

Those are all in UN resolutions you think are so important and must be abided.
 
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NotADcotor

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If you are so sure this report is wrong then prove its wrong.
I've explained this to you how many times. It's a total waste explaining anything to you because you are so consumed with hate you can't see or think straight. Which is also why you keep accusing people of positions they obviously don't have.
 

NotADcotor

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Did Israel allow Palestinians to leave Gaza and get out of the way?
I've shown with proper main stream sources that Israel DOES give evacuation orders and Hamas tells their people to stay put.

One can evacuate a certain area that is going to be attacked and move to another part of Gaza.

A picture of empty destroyed buildings is not a disproof of that.

As for pictures of causalities see the above underlined part. And if there was no warning, again as I've pointed out many times, if armies can't prevent killing their own people in peace time, it is unreasonable to expect 0 causalites among siviians in war time, double plus so when your enemy hides among their own people and use them as human shields.

How you don't see this would be a staggering mystery but it is obvious that you are blinded by hate.

That bold underlined bit, it pretty much explains everything. You seem to have this totally unrealistic expectation of the IDF, It's the fucking Israeli Army not Chuck Norris.
Yet Hamas specifically targets civilians for killing rape and hostage taking, and you have 0 problems with it.

Do you really not see the problem with this double standard. How anyone who is even hostile to the concept of an Israeli state but not consumed with hate might even take issue with your statements.
 

NotADcotor

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shack counter:
78 accusations of lying, 46 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof
Plenty of proof I am sure. I proved you were lying about many members here.
I've proved you were lying about "Lancet says" with a citation from LANCET ITSELF
I've proved that tweets you don't tell the truth, that you present an opinion as some sort of enforceable judgement
I've proved via IIRC a Reuters article that you were lying about the IDF trying to kill as many people as they could get their hands on. Aside from their actions, if this was true the war would be over by now, Gaza isn't that big of a place, if they were trying to murder everyone they could find, it would have been job done.

Based on your Trumpian level of lying, I am sure Shack has presented many many proofs
Maybe if you didn't lie constantly people wouldn't accuse you of lying

Oh one more lie. the 0 proof part.
 

NotADcotor

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Are you going to argue that killing 268,000 civilians is ok if its not ruled as genocide?
According to Palestinian Ministry of Health those numbers are nowhere near accurate
as reported here.
The Palestinian Ministry of Health says more than 44,000 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli attacks and thousands more are buried under rubble and threatened by illness.
Here are the latest casualty figures as of 2:30pm in Gaza (12:30 GMT) on November 17:
Gaza
Killed: at least 43,846 people, including 16,765 children
Injured: more than 103,740 people
Missing: more than 10,000

and

From Oct 24

The health ministry in Gaza said on Thursday that at least 42,847 people have been killed in the year-long war between Israel and Palestinian militants.

The FUCKING PALESTINE MINISTRY OF HEATH says you are wrong.

As reported by aljazeera and an Egyptian source

You have made this claim multiple times after I have shown you evidence that it is wrong, from Palestinian sources as reported by Arabic news sources.
When you claim Shack accused you of lying without proof. yeah I kinda doubt that.

Out of a population of 2 million, in a built up area with a government actively trying to get their own people killed, 40K dead is the exact opposite of evidence of genocide. It's fighting with kid gloves. Yeah it's bad but you can't do much better without just having Israel roll over and allow themselves to be exterminated.
 

NotADcotor

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Every accusation by a ziontologist is a confession
Every comment by a Klatuu is meaningless a platitude.

Also I don't think any of us actually are Zionists. so your statement is irrelevant.
I think the Rape of Nanking was bad, but I am not Chinese
I think Paul Bernardo is cunt, but I am not a friend or a family member of the women he raped and killed
I am in favor of abortion rights but I am neither a woman no a feminist

It's called being a human being, try it some time.
 

NotADcotor

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That would leave me as being cautious and still proud to have campaigned to end a war on civilians.
Oh really? I must have missed out about how you said the Hamas attack on Oct 7th was totally unacceptable and how you condemned without hesitation their human shield usage and their telling people to ignore evacuation orders.
I also must of missed the time when you condemned the attack in civilian shipping in the red sea.
 

NotADcotor

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I won't listen to you claiming to speak for Palestinians.
Not someone who argues for more genocide, apartheid and colonization.
He never did any of those things, that is another lie

Also he never spoke for Palestinians, he is reporting what Palestinians told pollsters. There is a difference.

Another lie.
 

NotADcotor

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What a surprise that Franky chooses to ignore what Palestinians say.
Well he ignores their own ministry of health in favor of inflated make believe numbers, but hey what would the Palestinian health ministry know
as reported by multiple Arab sources.
 
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