The 2024 US Presidential election

K Douglas

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No wonder that California contributes the most in terms of GDP than any other State in the USA.
Trump would be shitting his pants if California breaks away from The USA!!


Take a look at 1998 when California and Texas economies were the same size until around 2012. Look at their growth in GDP as compared to other States including a very Republican State of Texas where several freedoms are curtailed. The Right Wing media will just try to slam California as they hate how the economy as boomed in this century. That is why many Canadians go to work on contracts in that State as they always need well qualified individuals.

I don't know where you got this chart from but its completely inaccurate. I went back and looked at historical GDP of both CA and TX (link below) . In 1998 CA was $1.15T and TX was $645B. Using Statista's 2023 numbers for CA $3.23T and TX $2.03T would represent 180.8% growth for CA and 214.7% growth for TX. Now of course TX has grown much faster population wise which would more than account for the greater % increase. But what skews the numbers for CA is the tech sector. Also CA's gov't accounts for 10.4% of its annual GDP while TX's only accounts for 9.6%.
 

bver_hunter

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I don't know where you got this chart from but its completely inaccurate. I went back and looked at historical GDP of both CA and TX (link below) . In 1998 CA was $1.15T and TX was $645B. Using Statista's 2023 numbers for CA $3.23T and TX $2.03T would represent 180.8% growth for CA and 214.7% growth for TX. Now of course TX has grown much faster population wise which would more than account for the greater % increase. But what skews the numbers for CA is the tech sector. Also CA's gov't accounts for 10.4% of its annual GDP while TX's only accounts for 9.6%.
Nothing inaccurate about it. Here is the another chart that confirms the accuracy, and also gives you the GDP History of the two states. Look at the comparison of the present GDP:

 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I don't know where you got this chart from but its completely inaccurate. I went back and looked at historical GDP of both CA and TX (link below) . In 1998 CA was $1.15T and TX was $645B. Using Statista's 2023 numbers for CA $3.23T and TX $2.03T would represent 180.8% growth for CA and 214.7% growth for TX. Now of course TX has grown much faster population wise which would more than account for the greater % increase. But what skews the numbers for CA is the tech sector. Also CA's gov't accounts for 10.4% of its annual GDP while TX's only accounts for 9.6%.
Better to look at GDP per capita.
California is way ahead of Texas on that metric.
 

bver_hunter

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Why do Democrats support no voter ID?
That is false to claim that they support "no Voter ID". Instead of a photo ID, the following IDs are required:

Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware and Virginia, which do not require photo ID but allow other forms of identification, including pre-printed forms of identification such government documents or bank statements. Voters can also verify their identity in other ways, such as signing an affidavit.

The affidavit asserts that they are voting with the knowledge that falsely claiming eligibility is a criminal offense. They may also be required to provide a signature or biographical information such as names, addresses and full or partial birth dates.
But you failed to answer this CRITICAL question:

Why are the only cases of voter fraud in the 2020 and 2022 mid terms are involving the Republicans in nearly all the cases?
 
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Skoob

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That is false to claim that they support "no Voter ID". Instead of a photo ID, the following IDs are required:



But you failed to answer this CRITICAL question:

Why are the only cases of voter fraud in the 2020 and 2022 mid terms are involving the Republicans in nearly all the cases?
Democrats support no voter ID...do your own research.
btw the following states do not require any voter ID to vote at polls:

These states do not require photo ID:


If you need photo ID to buy booze and cigarettes and many other things why would you support voting without it?
 

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Democrats support no voter ID...do your own research.
btw the following states do not require any voter ID to vote at polls:

These states do not require photo ID:


If you need photo ID to buy booze and cigarettes and many other things why would you support voting without it?
Because it's racist. What's Atlanta's voting law after MLB took the 2021 All Star game away from them.
 

bver_hunter

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Trump wants to deport illegals including those who have been in the USA under the DACA Program and are married with children.

But he wants to pardon these criminals who were found guilty of beating up the cops, breaking and enter plus damage to the Capitol Hill:

 
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bver_hunter

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Democrats support no voter ID...do your own research.
btw the following states do not require any voter ID to vote at polls:

These states do not require photo ID:


If you need photo ID to buy booze and cigarettes and many other things why would you support voting without it?
Listen for nearly all the States that require no photo ID, the non-Id is for voters who have voted in the past, as they have their existing details on record. If there is a suspicion then they maybe required to provide that ID. But for new voters they are required to provide the ID, including the photo ID:

 
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Listen for nearly all the States that require no photo ID, the non-Id is for voters who have voted in the past, as they have their existing details on record. If there is a suspicion then they maybe required to provide that ID. But for new voters they are required to provide the ID, including the photo ID:

Where's stormy?....
 
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Skoob

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Listen for nearly all the States that require no photo ID, the non-Id is for voters who have voted in the past, as they have their existing details on record. If there is a suspicion then they maybe required to provide that ID. But for new voters they are required to provide the ID, including the photo ID:

Yeah sure that sounds foolproof. I wonder how many under-age teens have a hard time getting phony IDs so they can get into bars?

Here's a thought...how about photo ID required to vote. Period.

I know that must sound completely crazy to you but consider it.
 

bver_hunter

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The fact that your linking children's toys to XXX is frankly revolting!!
oracle always passes the blame based on false premises!! I did not link it oracle, it was done in error by Mattel. Of course oracle catches the bull by the tail once again!! 😆 🤣
Yet oracle defends the rapist and the felon with 34 convictions. That is what is precisely despicable!!
 
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