TRUMP WINS

[Frankfooter]

You don't get it. If it becomes too expensive to import then they make it in America for the same cost without the tariff. Add in the fact it employees Americans who will in turn pay taxes. That is the whole point of tariffs.

So that means americans will just pay more for everything, even if its eventually made in the US

 

[Butler1000]

???

most of Canada's exports are to the states
United States ($438B), China ($25.4B),
We definatly have some risk we will need to naviagte

an economic downturn is different than a tariff war
unless the tariffs cause the economic downturn

the expectation (ex tariffs) is for a soft landing mild recession after a prolonged expansion of the economic cycle
tariffs could create a more severe recession
they also will re-allocate where things are made and sold

trump is going to cut taxes, income tax corporate taxes and taxes on overtime (positive)
while kicking the can down the road on the federal debt bomb (bad & very irrsponsible)
he will undue the regulatory burden (good for US financials and energy)
US manufacturing will win because of reshoring ( good0

Canada has an oppourtunity to greatly benefit from the US changes if we are smart and undue the absurd Trudeau regulatory burden , particularly in energy
we need to shrink the size of govt

Our Supply Mnagement system is going to be attacked
if you view it objectively its not at all aligned with free trade
Quebec Dairy farms will be a target for sure which is a poltical hot potato
Canadians consumers pay way too much for Dairy

Trump despises Trudeau and freeland, Trump was not haapy with the USCMA and is not going to pussyfoot around this time
so we do not want these two bozos negociating for Canada.
Trump will screw Canada over just out of spite for Trudeau
Pierre P will be far better positioned to get a more favorable deal


We need an election and right away
We can not afford to wait until Jagmeet Singh and the liberal bloodsuckers qualifiy for MP pensions

I'm betting he does nothing until he has done his thing with China, Gaza, Ukraine, Iran, Immigration, tax cuts, getting a cabinet in place, other domestic issues. So that will be after our election.

We are going to be low on the list, and there will be pushback in Congress. I'm betting no tariffs on Canada. He will try to make some noise but once again it will end up to be little. It probably won't matter who is in.

 

[drewstar]

do you know of many people who like to b intentionally deceived ?


no massive surprise, lying scumbags do not care what others think

next time proof read your lies

Quite the projection you like to make idiot. I stand by what I said. Economic warfare against China whether you like it or not kiddo.

 

[richaceg]

Immigrants come from emigrant nations.
Emigrant nations are usually 3rd world nations.
It does not matter where immigrants come from.
We need to allow in properly qualified ones.
Example:
In the US, the Indian diaspora are considered model minorities. They are the highest income groups.
In Canada? Below average.
None of our processes are set up to identify successful people or enable them to be successful once they get here.
A qualified person is rejected because our institutions reject foreign credentials. The US does not do this.
Then our politicians allow tons of low wage workers via TFW.
Makes no sense.
In this way we are systemically disadvantaged.

Blame Trudeau...it was not that easy to enter Canada during Harper's term...all immigration applicants are vetted....hard. some even require "show money" to be allowed here...not anymore.

 

[kittykellykat]

You are obviously more interested in how people perceived you than proceed to an introspection and admit you went tpo far. The minute you went off at Kitty and I, you knew that was shitty, and you started to project your own guilt on us and try to switch the narrative to feel better about it. When you said that "everyone feel like you are a monster" I knew.
Lack of self esteem that you feed by male attention.

Now look at you engaging with people that are trying to pin us against each other. Laughing at memes and back handed compliments.

I hope they pick you honey.

Gorgeous gorgeous girl and smart! but so much internal work left to do.

Thank you for your gripping psychoanalysis peppered with lies and misrepresentation. All you know is eat hot chip and lie

We can move on

 

[Insidious Von]

Our good friend roddermac doesn't understand economics.

Oct 29 1929 is known as Black Thursday, President Hoover had plenty of time to reverse the damage and win re-election. He did the opposite, he signed into law the Smoot Haley Tariff Act which led to the designation Great Depression. FDR brought in The New Deal, it was not enough to reverse The Great Depression and the world descended into WW II.

I'm not sure Canada will be hit with tariffs, the US is dependent on Canadian copper, cobalt and aluminum.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Blame Trudeau...it was not that easy to enter Canada during Harper's term...all immigration applicants are vetted....hard. some even require "show money" to be allowed here...not anymore.

That's required today too.
But Trudeau went nuts with TFW and students.

 

[roddermac]

So that means americans will just pay more for everything, even if its eventually made in the US

But it's jobs for Americans. Can't pay for shit if you're unemployed.

 

[roddermac]

You're wrong roddermac, don't let dogma over-rule common sense. BERN is railing against oligarchs who have total control over everything. The question you should ask yourself is, what happens when Buffet croaks?

He complained about Elon Musk in his victory speech. He backed the same Democrats who screwed him over. He went after the millionaires until he became one then went after the billionaires.

 

[richaceg]

So that means americans will just pay more for everything, even if its eventually made in the US

You need to go back to school franky and don't forget economics in your curriculum.

 

[kittykellykat]

I'm not sure economic hardship is pretty funny, but I guess we all have a different sense is humour.

The economic situation isn't static and tariffs are a tool designed to preserve or restore a competitive advantage and protect existing manufacturing, not bring back that which has been gone for decades. If a product or class of product that used to be manufactured in one place moves, there's a finite amount of time where protectionism can save it.

In Canada and the US, we have access to almost everything required to build cars at competitive prices when compared to everywhere else in the world. But increasingly we're seeing vehicle manufacturing get outsourced to places that have a competitive advantage in labour costs. While that advantage is only labour, a strategic use of tariffs could protect and preserve manufacturing because there is still near parity in competitive advantage. But it you wait until all the manufacturing jobs have left, the workforce has moved on, the factories have been gutted and torn down, and the manufacture of inputs has also relocated, then the tariffs cease to be useful at bringing the jobs here because startup costs become prohibitively expensive. Companies will wait out the tariffs, knowing a shift in political climate will almost certainly happen faster than the manufacturing capacity can be restored, and once these happens the balance to competitive advantage is lost and it become cheaper to shut it all down again.

Remember when Trump put tariffs on Canadian steel and as a result almost everything manufactured in the US that involved steel got more expensive? He did it claiming he was going to protect US steel manufacturing, but it turns out US steel couldn't meet production demands. They didn't really ramp up production either, because while they have a competitive advantage for existing demand, expansion costs were prohibitive. And so as a result he eventually carved out a bunch of exemptions, rendering the entire exercise mostly moot, but only after damage to both our economies had been done. It didn't reduce inflation, make things made of steel cheaper, protect manufacturing, or bring jobs back. It drove up prices (which still haven't come back down fully) and increased inflation while saving no jobs and creating no extra.

In fact, the tariffs implemented by Trump during his last presidency are estimated to have resulted in a net loss of 160,000 jobs, and because portions of it impacted critical industries that needed to be preserved (ie the farming industry as a result of his soybean tariff), it cost taxpayers a fortune in subsidies.

The reality of free trade and competitive advantage is complex and there's a lot of nuance. It's not that tariffs are bad, it's that a guy who clearly doesn't understand them and has a history of implementing them to the detriment of the economy is saying he's going to use blanket tariffs to restore and punish, rather than to protect, and that's not how tariffs work.

He's selling a strong economy via tariffs but that's not reality. He's actually touting a trade war while claiming it's going to reduce inflation and bring back jobs, and that has never been the goal or result of any trade war.

So no, it's not that tariffs used to be good but now they're bad. It's about acknowledging that tariffs are a tool and like any tool, it can be used wisely or poorly, and both Trump's words and past actions make it clear this is going to be the latter.

I am not in favour of the American tariffs one bit. At least not for Canadians. But this is a good post, regardless — I think you misread what I was saying about how the values had done a funnystyle switcheroo from left to right. I’m glad PP has explicitly said he intends to deal with this — he has my vote on those grounds

 

[WyattEarp]

a higher turnout during the pandenic ? -yeah i am skeptical

19 miilion extra votes in 2020 vs 2016 and then in 2024 17 million voters disapear despite population growth

yeah something screwy happened , we will never know exactly now
but that was definately a mysterious anmoly that sticks out like an erection in a girls sporting event

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It would be interesting to compare who voted and their method of voting in 2020 versus 2024.

 

[Josephine]

Thank you for your gripping psychoanalysis peppered with lies and misrepresentation. All you know is eat hot chip and lie

We can move on

I might actually be doing wishful thinking and you are simply having a personality disorder. I just like not to believe that people are inherently bad.

Do Sociopaths Feel Empathy and Remorse?

People with antisocial personality disorder (sociopaths and psychopaths) have feelings and emotions but sometimes lack empathy and remorse. Here's when and why.

psychcentral.com

I really hope we are moving on for good now!

 

[WyattEarp]

That’s why it was in cursive.

I presume ChatGPT merely goes on to the world wide web and amalgamates opinions. Kind of like an opinion with no author.

 

[jimidean2011]

I STILL CANNOT BELIEVE THE MODS CHANGED THE TITLE OF THIS POST. SO HERE WE GO AGAIN, LEFTIES IN YOUR FACE, TRUMP WON.

Right!?! I'm pretty sure I know who's complaint caused the change. The left are big mad and trying to gain back any ground that they can. Let them have the title. MAGA is victorious and that's all that matters.

 

[kittykellykat]

I presume ChatGPT merely goes on to the world wide web and amalgamates opinions. Kind of like an opinion with no author.

It’s just a metagoogler (search engine of the search engine) and frankly it does a really bad job bc of how Google polices the internet.

it is good for some other things; i don’t use it. I already got KellyGPT in my brain

 

[jimidean2011]

Not only incompetent, but incontinent too, both fecal and urinary.

Those within fecal wafting range and miles downwind of him say he stinks like shit.

More MAGAnomic theory:

- all votes final, no refunds or trade ins allowed

- there are MAGA suckers born every minute

- fool 'em and grift 'em once, shame on them; fool ' em and grift 'em again; fool and grift 'em into their graves

Oh look, more MAGAnomics extrapolated and splayed out so exquisitely and elegantly like the world has never seen before.

Proud grad of Trump University, I see.

Very impressive.

Wow! You are soooo mad. I can only imagine how many holes you punched in the drywall. You know, walking around with all that pent up anger is seriously unhealthy. Maybe it's time to just embrace MAGA and let it go. If ya can't beat em, join em.

 

[kittykellykat]

Wow! You are soooo mad. I can only imagine how many holes you punched in the drywall. You know, walking around with all that pent up anger is seriously unhealthy. Maybe it's time to just embrace MAGA and let it go. If ya can't beat em, join em.

They’re going falling down mode and it makes me cackle

 

[WyattEarp]

Wayne Gretzky was at Trumps election party at mar a lago. I don’t know why but I find that funny. So many closeted mags people coming out now that they see the majority behind Trump. Trump 2024!

That Wayne Gretzky he's really something. He carried a huge stick. What he could do with his stick zipping around defenders.
And his lovely wife Janet is here. I loved her in the movies. Beautiful, beautiful lady.
Wayne's daughter and son-in-law Dustin Johnson.....hello Dustin.........big, big supporter. Thanks Dustin.

 

[jimidean2011]

They’re going falling down mode and it makes me cackle

Honestly, I'm loving their irrational over reactions. It's really satisfying watching them wallow in defeat.