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Valcazar

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Have you asked yourself why support for him would be so strong?
Yes, repeatedly.
It's a major social issue of the times.
Unfucking the country so that this trend gets reversed to where it is back to a fringe that isn't a threat to the country electorally will take a long time.
 
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Yes, repeatedly.
It's a major social issue of the times.
Unfucking the country so that this trend gets reversed to where it is back to a fringe that isn't a threat to the country electorally will take a long time.
The social issue that has created strong support for Trump is the very reason he needs to get elected to continue the work of fixing it.
Over the past 4 years, the current leadership has made it worse.
 

Valcazar

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The social issue that has created strong support for Trump is the very reason he needs to get elected to continue the work of fixing it.
Over the past 4 years, the current leadership has made it worse.
Really?

One issue alone explains it all?

You're a political genius.
 
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Really?

One issue alone explains it all?

You're a political genius.
You said its' " a social issue of the times".
What other issue are you referring to?

(maybe put some effort into explaining the context of your remarks rather than single one-liners left open to interpretation?)
 

Valcazar

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You said its' " a social issue of the times".
What other issue are you referring to?

(maybe put some effort into explaining the context of your remarks rather than single one-liners left open to interpretation?)
The fact that Fascism has so much support is the social issue I was referring to.

Perhaps I misinterpreted your statement: " The social issue that has created strong support for Trump is the very reason he needs to get elected to continue the work of fixing it. "

That implied you thought there was a social issue that had created the strong support I was remarking on, since you said "that has created".
If that isn't what you meant, I invite you to explain further.
 

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The fact that Fascism has so much support is the social issue I was referring to.

Perhaps I misinterpreted your statement: " The social issue that has created strong support for Trump is the very reason he needs to get elected to continue the work of fixing it. "

That implied you thought there was a social issue that had created the strong support I was remarking on, since you said "that has created".
If that isn't what you meant, I invite you to explain further.
Why would you think Fascism has support? What Fascist things did Trump do while in office? The US had 4 years of Trump as president...no impact to democracy, no wars, etc. So this whole Dem-driven narrative about him being a Fascist is pure propaganda.

You haven't explained why such a significant portion of Americans support Trump despite your belief that it's driven by some "social" issue?
 

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Why would you think Fascism has support? What Fascist things did Trump do while in office? The US had 4 years of Trump as president...no impact to democracy, no wars, etc. So this whole Dem-driven narrative about him being a Fascist is pure propaganda.
I get that rejecting the evidence of your own eyes is important - the Party has told you to do it.
It's sad, but I get it.

You haven't explained why such a significant portion of Americans support Trump despite your belief that it's driven by some "social" issue?
I never said it is driven by some "social" issue other than the very fact that anything involving society is a "social" issue.
Disentangling all the reasons why Trumpism is so popular is going to be the work of quite some time.
I know lots of people want to go with "lots of the US is made of horrible people" but I think we can do a lot better than that.
 

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I get that rejecting the evidence of your own eyes is important - the Party has told you to do it.
It's sad, but I get it.



I never said it is driven by some "social" issue other than the very fact that anything involving society is a "social" issue.
Disentangling all the reasons why Trumpism is so popular is going to be the work of quite some time.
I know lots of people want to go with "lots of the US is made of horrible people" but I think we can do a lot better than that.
You're point is harder to get a hold of than Hunter's laptop.

You said: " The fact that Fascism has so much support is the social issue I was referring to."

I asked why you would think Fascism has support?

You ignored that and instead pivoted (like all leftists do when cornered) to making some claim that I reject evidence.

Show me this evidence before we move further and try your best not to deflect.
 
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That might have been a compliment to him had you not set the bar so low.
Ya I'm done with you. Just absolutely pathetic! Yesterday you hit me with 32, count em, 32 rapidfire replies to my posts antagonizing and instigating me so that I would have a heated reaction to your childish nonsense and as soon as I did you ratted me out to the mods and dipped off the board after your mission was accomplished. What kind of a person does that? That is behavior I would expect from the fairer sex, definitely not a man. You sir(and I use that term as lightly as possible) are just absolutely sad and I literally feel sorry for people like you. You can dish it out but you sure can't take it. You throw rocks and then put your hands in your pockets. This can serve as a PSA to other members. Don't wrassle with shack in the schoolyard because if you get the better of him he will run to the teacher and you could end up in detention. Once again, the textbook definition of PATHETIC!
 
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Trump's whole life has been a con.
He inherited his money, blew it, bankrupt many times, and used fraud to keep up the illusion.
His charity and his university and other businesses were all frauds.
Sexual assault, libel, are all part of his repertoire.
Cheated on everyone he's ever worked with or was romantically involved with.
Everyone around him are convicted felons, including him.
He stole national security secrets. He believes dictators over his own Intel agencies.
Sold out allies, unilaterally voided treaties forever damaging US international credibility.
He made govt folks stay at his properties, and he charged the govt top rates.
He took a $10m bribe from Egypt and reversed us foriegn policy toward them, his daughter got millions of $worth of trademarks, his son in law walked out with $2b from the Saudis, treasury sec $1b. Solicited straight quid pro quo from oil executives- give me $1b, I'll pass what you want. Lost hundred of thousands of manufacturing jobs. Cost american soybean farmers their lucrative Chinese market. Those farmers now living on govt subsidies.
Has no idea how govt works, tariffs work, what NATO is, or that Puerto Ricans are Americans. Refuses to read his briefs. The vast majority of people who worked with him when president say he is unfit for office. Now he is saying he'll use govt to attack fellow Americans and arrest members of congress. Says he'll get rid of constitution and be a dictator on day 1.
Ooutside of that...
So he’s like any other politician….Surely Kamala, Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton (just to name a few) has never done any shady stuff…You should actually learn about history before you comment on politics.
 

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Well, now I'm curious.
What makes him "objectively pretty politically moderate" in your eyes?
Because he is. 10-15 years ago his platform and ideas would fit in line with blue party ideals. For example, to reference a more recent president; his views on border control is almost exactly the same as Obama’s
 
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Lmao. @ everyone: they aren’t the same person.

terbman1 is a regular of mine, and jimidean called me “kitty” earlier, and obviously doesn’t know who I am; he would’ve called me Kelly otherwise
Nope! I'm terbman. The resident geniuses said I am him and that's the story I'm sticking with! :ROFLMAO: 🤦‍♂️
 

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If George Lincoln Rockwell were around today, I'm pretty sure he'd have a chance of winning the US presidency. That country is fucked.
In my opinion, the US is actually in a way better shape, even still, than Canada. The US overall has lower taxes, higher paying jobs and, considerably lower house prices. The biggest issue I see with the US is illegal immigration. Even then, Canada has its own version of this problem; although here they are not referred to as “illegal” but these people have gone through fake and illegal means (such as faking documents) to come here.
 
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