The 2024 US Presidential election

Butler1000

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I disagree on Haley, perhaps you are correct about Cheney as many Dems dislike him as well as many Repugs but Haley has her following of more moderate repugs who dislike Trump.
The average voter outside of her state would barely know who she is other than she was a governor somewhere. I doubt most would even know she was in the primary against Trump. And her cable news presence has been minimal. It's not dislike, but indifference in her case.

And those moderate Trump haters are already voting for Harris. They are baked in. Being voters are not going to base their choice on her recommendation.
 

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The average voter outside of her state would barely know who she is other than she was a governor somewhere. I doubt most would even know she was in the primary against Trump. And her cable news presence has been minimal. It's not dislike, but indifference in her case.

And those moderate Trump haters are already voting for Harris. They are baked in. Being voters are not going to base their choice on her recommendation.
She carried a devoted Republican piece of the base. Many were McCain supporters and stood behind Haley during the primaries. They can make a difference in a swing state.


Key Swing States Could be Affected

The focus group’s findings suggest that Haley’s former supporters in swing states could play a crucial role in the election. With a mix of decisions among them—some leaning toward Trump, others Harris, and a few opting for third-party candidates—the GOP and Democrats may find that swaying undecided voters in the final days of the campaign could tip the balance.

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
 
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In previous years I would agree with this, but this year there has been an increase in "weighted" polls from right leaning sources that are, imo, creating a more balanced aggregate polling result.

Either way between various methodology, pretty much all of them within margin of error, and even what polls the aggregate polling sites use, I remain on the side of....."who the fuck knows" what 50,000-100,000 independent voters in various states are really thinking. That is probably what this election will be won by.
The only right leaning polls that I know of are Rasmussen and Trafalgar. 538 doesn't even include Rasmussen in the average and Trafalgar is weighted pretty low.
 

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For sure he was being a dick.
But he threw his Trump hat away, and then wanted to vote, but she still wouldnt let him.
She then assaults him. That then becomes a criminal charge
We can't actually tell that from the footage.
He throws the hat away and then there is some sort of interaction with the poll worker before she hits him and says something like "don't do that!", the problem is that we can't see it and because the person filming is going "Wooowww"" the whole time, we also can't hear it.

But as people have said in the beginning of the thread, this is pretty much all on him disrupting.
Was the physical interaction assault by her? Possibly, depending on what happened in that last bit of interaction.
But this is pretty clearly not a story of "Evil Democrats preventing a God-Fearing American Trump Supporter from voting".
This is "Asshole at polling station pisses off the people trying to work there and just do their jobs".

I get why a grievance-monger from Malaysia like Ian Mills Cheong would want to pretend otherwise (having a victim complex is important to the Trump-loving audience) but we shouldn't pretend that isn't what he is doing.
 

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In previous years I would agree with this, but this year there has been an increase in "weighted" polls from right leaning sources that are, imo, creating a more balanced aggregate polling result.
Why are you putting "weighted" in scare quotes?
 

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Robert De Niro: [Trump]'s talking about himself - 'the enemy within.' He is the enemy


 

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Harrison Ford Endorses Harris: ‘We Need a President Who Works for Us All’


 

Butler1000

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She carried a devoted Republican piece of the base. Many were McCain supporters and stood behind Haley during the primaries. They can make a difference in a swing state.


Key Swing States Could be Affected

The focus group’s findings suggest that Haley’s former supporters in swing states could play a crucial role in the election. With a mix of decisions among them—some leaning toward Trump, others Harris, and a few opting for third-party candidates—the GOP and Democrats may find that swaying undecided voters in the final days of the campaign could tip the balance.

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
Which is built into the polls. They would feel that way about pretty much any GOP wanna be other than Trump.
 
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Harrison Ford has one thing in common with Harris. He is a climate
hypocrite like most liberals Harris belong to.



Harrison Ford Endorses Harris: ‘We Need a President Who Works for Us All’


 

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Ann Selzer has called every presidential and senate race correctly in Iowa since 2008.
Now MAGA is crying foul because her last pre-election poll shows Harris up by 3.
But what the poll shows is women and independents are pissed at Trump and breaking heavily for Harris.
The backlash from women and independents at the toxicity of Donald Trump will sweep Kamala Harris directly into the White House on Tuesday.
He should have called Nikki Haley for advice instead of the sycophants who kiss his ass all the time.
 
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