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Trudeau harming relations between India and Canada?

bver_hunter

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I watched the High Commissioners interview with Vassy.
I took away that we failed even with articulating an agenda for the meeting.
The high commissioner confirmed that India formed some committee to help with the American case.
So why do we not get the same treatment?
You are obsessed with Modi but it seems the issue is Trudeau being stupid.
Idk whether Canada expelled or India recalled.
What I know is that CTV texted the reporter in the middle of saying that India recalled its diplomats.
You are living in denial, when I posted the facts, that India that Expel these 6 diplomats, but the Indian Press that is closely scrutinized by the Modi Govt. obviously lied about it and stated that they were "recalling" these Diplomats.
India from the word go refused to co-operate with Canada. They know that they are complicit with the murder of Nijjar Singh. Otherwise, as McKay stated that Canada has always co-operated with India in their investigations in the past:

MacKay insists Canada, at multiple junctures, tried to share evidence with the Indian government.

“Frankly, Canada was seeking India’s cooperation and collaboration in this regard,” he told Kapelos. “We just haven’t seen it.”

“Instead, the Indian government, I think, for domestic political purposes, has responded by vilifying Canada, by dismissing evidence that we provided to them,” he said.

MacKay said the move appears to have worked for a domestic audience in India.

“That’s been a very successful domestic communications strategy for India,” he said. “Internationally, I don’t think it’s credible at all, but certainly it has worked for them within India.”
So, who do you believe this Verma individual or McKay? of course McKay is spot on when he stated that the Indian Govt. is working to vilify Canada just for their domestic audiences!!
 

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BREAKING: The United States has charged a former Indian intelligence officer who allegedly directed a foiled plot to murder a Sikh separatist in New York City last year. U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that senior officials in the administration of Prime Minister Narendra Modi likely authorized the plot.

While the United States has confronted New Delhi over a failed murder plot, Canada has outlined an alarmingly extensive campaign of surveillance, intimidation and violence involving Indian diplomats, criminal syndicates and a member of Modi’s inner circle. Canadian officials identified the senior Modi official as Amit Shah, who serves as home affairs minister.

No direct operational link has surfaced at this point between the Canadian cases and the plot to kill Pannun, U.S. and Canadian officials said. However, the killing of Nijjar in Canada and the attempt on Pannun have parallels, and both have drawn concern that they are part of a global effort by India’s security services to harass, coerce and kill dissidents and others perceived as hostile to the Modi government.

The State Department on Tuesday said Canada’s allegations were serious. “We have wanted to see India take them seriously and cooperate with Canada’s investigation,” spokesman Matthew Miller said. “They have chosen an alternate path.”
 

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Copy pasting from the internet on the interview with the high commissioner on CTV.

2. Canadians have still not shared any evidence with their Indian counterparts.
Aren't their Indian counterparts essentially the people being investigated?

Does the TPS email murder suspects and tell them about the investigation?!?!!

3. Canadians keep going to anti-India/Canada elements. Keep collecting hearsay from Khalistanis and claim that this is evidence.

6. Some Khalistani extremists and terrorists are deep assets of CSIS.
Oddly enough, murder victims are usually not friendly with their murderers. You get this, right?
9. As far as trade is concerned, India will not stop trade and people-to-people relations completely. But the high commissioner did say, "There will be emotions on both sides which may impact a few of those deals." That is a message for Canada that yes, India will reduce trade if you push us beyond a point.
They still can't come here and break out laws ffs!
 

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U.S. charges former Indian spy linked to murder plot in New York
The Justice Department charged Vikash Yadav, a former Indian intelligence officer, as some Biden administration officials grew frustrated with India’s internal investigation.

Full, archived article.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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You are living in denial, when I posted the facts, that India that Expel these 6 diplomats, but the Indian Press that is closely scrutinized by the Modi Govt. obviously lied about it and stated that they were "recalling" these Diplomats.
India from the word go refused to co-operate with Canada. They know that they are complicit with the murder of Nijjar Singh. Otherwise, as McKay stated that Canada has always co-operated with India in their investigations in the past:



So, who do you believe this Verma individual or McKay? of course McKay is spot on when he stated that the Indian Govt. is working to vilify Canada just for their domestic audiences!!
Let me know after you get over Modi and the Indian press.
I care not for Modi or the Indian press.
CTV clearly texted the reporter on camera.
If India is not cooperating with Canada and vilifying us, but cooperating with the US, why is this?
Maybe Trudeau is stupid and should step down already?
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Aren't their Indian counterparts essentially the people being investigated?

Does the TPS email murder suspects and tell them about the investigation?!?!!



Oddly enough, murder victims are usually not friendly with their murderers. You get this, right?

They still can't come here and break out laws ffs!
They are diplomats and peers.
It is not the same relationship that the TPS has with suspects.
I agree they cannot and should not break our laws.
They agree with that as well or atleast say they do.
Question is why is Trudeau not able to get them to cooperate with us the way the US is able to?
He is useless!
 

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Copy pasting from the internet on the interview with the high commissioner on CTV.

1.RCMP is not independent as far as India is concerned.
2. Canadians have still not shared any evidence with their Indian counterparts.
3. Canadians keep going to anti-India/Canada elements. Keep collecting hearsay from Khalistanis and claim that this is evidence.
4. Trudeau is actively engaging in vote bank politics.
5. The west was used to bullying other nations. The so-called G 7 nations need to get used to the new reality that India will not bend over backwards.
6. Some Khalistani extremists and terrorists are deep assets of CSIS.
7. India will function on the principle of reciprocity.
8. Khalistani terrorists that intend to attack India are Canadian citizens, and Canada should not encourage them.
9. As far as trade is concerned, India will not stop trade and people-to-people relations completely. But the high commissioner did say, "There will be emotions on both sides which may impact a few of those deals." That is a message for Canada that yes, India will reduce trade if you push us beyond a point.
Wow, you are labelling Canada to be like a "terrorist" nation, if we are harbouring them. The fact is though I do not agree with them, is that these Sikhs are engaging in a free speech for the Separation of Punjab to create a separate Khalistan Nation. Does not make them to be "terrorists". Those real Khalistan terrorists in the past were either jailed or are dead. There is absolutely no evidence that Nijjar was involved with any acts of terrorism and was killed by what looks like the Indian Govt. involvement in it based on the RCMP evidence. Similar to the attempted murder of an activist in the USA. We have those espousing for Quebec's breakaway from Canada. Some of them were living in abroad. Does not mean that Canada carried out any acts to eliminate them, although there were dreadful terrorist acts in the past by these Separatists!!
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Wow, you are labelling Canada to be like a "terrorist" nation, if we are harbouring them. The fact is though I do not agree with them, is that these Sikhs are engaging in a free speech for the Separation of Punjab to create a separate Khalistan Nation. Does not make them to be "terrorists". Those real Khalistan terrorists in the past were either jailed or are dead. There is absolutely no evidence that Nijjar was involved with any acts of terrorism and was killed by what looks like the Indian Govt. involvement in it based on the RCMP evidence. Similar to the attempted murder of an activist in the USA. We have those espousing for Quebec's breakaway from Canada. Some of them were living in abroad. Does not mean that Canada carried out any acts to eliminate them, although there were dreadful terrorist acts in the past by these Separatists!!
They are alleging that we are harbouring elements that are actually participating in criminal activities for which evidence has been presented, but ignored by Canada for political reasons.
The high commissioner said that there are 26 extradition requests that Canada is not cooperating with India about.
So maybe they are not cooperating because Trudeau is stupid and does not understand reciprocity.
 

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Let me know after you get over Modi and the Indian press.
I care not for Modi or the Indian press.
CTV clearly texted the reporter on camera.
If India is not cooperating with Canada and vilifying us, but cooperating with the US, why is this?
Maybe Trudeau is stupid and should step down already?
You are using the talking points of Modi and the Indian Press in this whole affair.
If a reporter makes a mistake like all of us humans do, then they have every right to correct him.
But when the Indian Press are lying that Indian "Recalls" their Diplomats, that is only to try and vilify Canada and make The Indian Govt. innocent in this whole affair.
Now that Indian High Commissioner did not answer the question as to why he did not co-operate with Canada in this affair. He just made excuses. In the USA that involvement was someone much lower down the rung of the ladder. But when a High Commissioner is involved that is why he was making excuses and blaming Canada for not following the Protocols and claiming that the RCMP is politically involved with the Canadian Govt. This is in spite of Vassy refuting those claims.
You are the one that seems to be obsessed with Trudeau. Modi is the thug and is behaving like Putin in getting rid of individuals on a foreign soil. Even Jagmeet Singh was refused a visa.
Modi has a record of discriminating against not only Sikhs, but Muslims, Christians and Jews indirectly!!
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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You are using the talking points of Modi and the Indian Press in this whole affair.
If a reporter makes a mistake like all of us humans do, then they have every right to correct him.
But when the Indian Press are lying that Indian "Recalls" their Diplomats, that is only to try and vilify Canada and make The Indian Govt. innocent in this whole affair.
Now that Indian High Commissioner did not answer the question as to why he did not co-operate with Canada in this affair. He just made excuses. In the USA that involvement was someone much lower down the rung of the ladder. But when a High Commissioner is involved that is why he was making excuses and blaming Canada for not following the Protocols and claiming that the RCMP is politically involved with the Canadian Govt. This is in spite of Vassy refuting those claims.
You are the one that seems to be obsessed with Trudeau. Modi is the thug and is behaving like Putin in getting rid of individuals on a foreign soil. Even Jagmeet Singh was refused a visa.
Modi has a record of discriminating against not only Sikhs, but Muslims, Christians and Jews indirectly!!
The CTV reporter was instructed with pro-Trudeau talking points.
Earlier they were caught doctoring videos and issued apologies.
The high commissioner said that a meeting was requested with no agenda and a date without considering visa timelines.
Vassy refuted nothing. She kept asking the same questions.
Jagmeet is pro Sikh movement so may be he was refused a visa for that.
Yes I am obsessed with Trudeau and his bullshit. Why are you surprised? He is useless!
 
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bver_hunter

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They are alleging that we are harbouring elements that are actually participating in criminal activities for which evidence has been presented, but ignored by Canada for political reasons.
The high commissioner said that there are 26 extradition requests that Canada is not cooperating with India about.
So maybe they are not cooperating because Trudeau is stupid and does not understand reciprocity.
Again Canada has co-operated with India. The RCMP has investigated and not found criminal activities in Nijjar's so called terrorist activities.
Even The Federal Cabinet Minister Harjit Sajjan is considered by the Indian Govt. to be a "Sikh Nationalist"!!
Once again an excuse as to why India is not co-operating. The fact is that this involvement implicates the High Commissioner and is a scandal!!
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Again Canada has co-operated with India. The RCMP has investigated and not found criminal activities in Nijjar's so called terrorist activities.
Even The Federal Cabinet Minister Harjit Sajjan is considered by the Indian Govt. to be a "Sikh Nationalist"!!
Once again an excuse as to why India is not co-operating. The fact is that this involvement implicates the High Commissioner and is a scandal!!
They are alleging this is not the case.
 

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7. India will function on the principle of reciprocity.
This is the highlight of everything.

Canada's position for years to India was we are not obligated to help you. Well, looks like that's India's position too now

India is making an example out of Trudeau. You claim we have mutual interest but we haven't seen the same respect.

The longer this stays in the public, the worse Trudeau looks.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I don't know why they tried to seek another meeting on Oct 12 being so ill prepared.
They were never prepared to engage.
Their only focus is to not lose 2025 and this is a desperate attack on Pierre because he has been calling out Trudeau's connections with China.
Everyday there is a poll and everyday Trudeau falls.
Canadians are sick of Trudeau.
 
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