Trudeau harming relations between India and Canada?

DesRicardo

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When it comes to assassination by nations they will wake up. Suddenly if Africsn nations start doing it in France, Belgium, Germany etc. I don't include the USA because no one with brains will fuck with that.

You call them privately, tell them that they need to step up. If Trudeau had any world cred he could've gotten it. Then India gets the message and either backs off, or if they go ahead, they have to burn their operatives, and take the hit.
America and the UK have already said they support Canada.

You guys seem to for get it was America that did all the work. Trudeau and the RCMP had their thumbs up their asses with no clues or leads.

And it shows you just how little Canada's Security is respected when the US doesn't inform Canada right away.
 

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When it comes to assassination by nations they will wake up. Suddenly if Africsn nations start doing it in France, Belgium, Germany etc. I don't include the USA because no one with brains will fuck with that.

You call them privately, tell them that they need to step up. If Trudeau had any world cred he could've gotten it. Then India gets the message and either backs off, or if they go ahead, they have to burn their operatives, and take the hit.
They wont publicly play ball.
Behind the scenes is all fair game I guess.
 

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NATO wont play ball.
Several NATO countries have billions of dollars in trade with India. Too much to lose over Sikhs.
He should have done 3 things imo.
Stepped up domestic security so any foreign actors are stopped while cracking down on criminal gangs.
Presented concrete evidence such that India couldn't refute.
Stopped encouraging separatists to use Canada as a safe haven to conduct cross border campaigns against another nation.
Especially one that is a close trade partner and a growing world power.
Very shabbily managed situation overall.
If India refused to co-operate from the word go, and the USA like Canada also accused India of their involvement in the attempted murder of their citizens, then what is "shabby" about the handling of this whole affair? Does not mean if they are a growing world power then they can get away with some Putinesqe style of assassinations of citizens that do not agree with!!
But even Pee Pee had condemned India's actions:

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said it's "outrageous" that India may be behind Nijjar's killing.

"Our citizens must be safe from extrajudicial killings. Canadians deserve to be protected on Canadian soil. We call on the Indian government to act with utmost transparency as authorities investigate this murder. The truth must come out," Poilievre said.

"Let us lock arms and join hands in condemning this murder, standing with the family and the friends of this victim. Let's put aside our difference to stand up for the rule of law. One law for all our people."

Was he acting "shabby" as well?
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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You are using Modi's arguments and line of thoughts in this whole argument!!
Do you think that Canada did not expel these 6 diplomats?
This Indian High Commission Verma who was expelled, was also interviewed by Vassy Kapelos. Watch the interview and see how he tries to make up excuses that were hollow and later rebutted by the Canadian High Commissioner of India Cameron McKay. Canada had co-operated with India in the past for the extradition of those that were under investigation in India. But Modi was the one now who is betraying Canada in its investigation, especially when evidence WAS AVAILABLE IF INDIA WANTS IT. THEY DON'T WANT IT!!

I watched the High Commissioners interview with Vassy.
I took away that we failed even with articulating an agenda for the meeting.
The high commissioner confirmed that India formed some committee to help with the American case.
So why do we not get the same treatment?
You are obsessed with Modi but it seems the issue is Trudeau being stupid.
Idk whether Canada expelled or India recalled.
What I know is that CTV texted the reporter in the middle of saying that India recalled its diplomats.
 

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If India refused to co-operate from the word go, and the USA like Canada also accused India of their involvement in the attempted murder of their citizens, then what is "shabby" about the handling of this whole affair? Does not mean if they are a growing world power then they can get away with some Putinesqe style of assassinations of citizens that do not agree with!!
But even Pee Pee had condemned India's actions:


Was he acting "shabby" as well?
I say the same thing.
It is outrageous if India actually killed Nijjar.
The USA presented evidence, worked with India to form a committee to help their case and Matt Miller said that the US was satisfied with India's response.
Why isn't Trudeau able to replicate that?
Which is why I called it shabby.
 

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I say the same thing.
It is outrageous if India actually killed Nijjar.
The USA presented evidence, worked with India to form a committee to help their case and Matt Miller said that the US was satisfied with India's response.
Why isn't Trudeau able to replicate that?
Which is why I called it shabby.
Last I heard, the US was actually prepared to charge some Indian diplomatic personnel.
 

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Copy pasting from the internet on the interview with the high commissioner on CTV.

1.RCMP is not independent as far as India is concerned.
2. Canadians have still not shared any evidence with their Indian counterparts.
3. Canadians keep going to anti-India/Canada elements. Keep collecting hearsay from Khalistanis and claim that this is evidence.
4. Trudeau is actively engaging in vote bank politics.
5. The west was used to bullying other nations. The so-called G 7 nations need to get used to the new reality that India will not bend over backwards.
6. Some Khalistani extremists and terrorists are deep assets of CSIS.
7. India will function on the principle of reciprocity.
8. Khalistani terrorists that intend to attack India are Canadian citizens, and Canada should not encourage them.
9. As far as trade is concerned, India will not stop trade and people-to-people relations completely. But the high commissioner did say, "There will be emotions on both sides which may impact a few of those deals." That is a message for Canada that yes, India will reduce trade if you push us beyond a point.
 

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I watched the High Commissioners interview with Vassy.
I took away that we failed even with articulating an agenda for the meeting.
The high commissioner confirmed that India formed some committee to help with the American case.
So why do we not get the same treatment?
You are obsessed with Modi but it seems the issue is Trudeau being stupid.
Idk whether Canada expelled or India recalled.
What I know is that CTV texted the reporter in the middle of saying that India recalled its diplomats.
You are living in denial, when I posted the facts, that India that Expel these 6 diplomats, but the Indian Press that is closely scrutinized by the Modi Govt. obviously lied about it and stated that they were "recalling" these Diplomats.
India from the word go refused to co-operate with Canada. They know that they are complicit with the murder of Nijjar Singh. Otherwise, as McKay stated that Canada has always co-operated with India in their investigations in the past:

MacKay insists Canada, at multiple junctures, tried to share evidence with the Indian government.

“Frankly, Canada was seeking India’s cooperation and collaboration in this regard,” he told Kapelos. “We just haven’t seen it.”

“Instead, the Indian government, I think, for domestic political purposes, has responded by vilifying Canada, by dismissing evidence that we provided to them,” he said.

MacKay said the move appears to have worked for a domestic audience in India.

“That’s been a very successful domestic communications strategy for India,” he said. “Internationally, I don’t think it’s credible at all, but certainly it has worked for them within India.”
So, who do you believe this Verma individual or McKay? of course McKay is spot on when he stated that the Indian Govt. is working to vilify Canada just for their domestic audiences!!
 

mandrill

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BREAKING: The United States has charged a former Indian intelligence officer who allegedly directed a foiled plot to murder a Sikh separatist in New York City last year. U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that senior officials in the administration of Prime Minister Narendra Modi likely authorized the plot.

While the United States has confronted New Delhi over a failed murder plot, Canada has outlined an alarmingly extensive campaign of surveillance, intimidation and violence involving Indian diplomats, criminal syndicates and a member of Modi’s inner circle. Canadian officials identified the senior Modi official as Amit Shah, who serves as home affairs minister.

No direct operational link has surfaced at this point between the Canadian cases and the plot to kill Pannun, U.S. and Canadian officials said. However, the killing of Nijjar in Canada and the attempt on Pannun have parallels, and both have drawn concern that they are part of a global effort by India’s security services to harass, coerce and kill dissidents and others perceived as hostile to the Modi government.

The State Department on Tuesday said Canada’s allegations were serious. “We have wanted to see India take them seriously and cooperate with Canada’s investigation,” spokesman Matthew Miller said. “They have chosen an alternate path.”
 

mandrill

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Copy pasting from the internet on the interview with the high commissioner on CTV.

2. Canadians have still not shared any evidence with their Indian counterparts.
Aren't their Indian counterparts essentially the people being investigated?

Does the TPS email murder suspects and tell them about the investigation?!?!!

3. Canadians keep going to anti-India/Canada elements. Keep collecting hearsay from Khalistanis and claim that this is evidence.

6. Some Khalistani extremists and terrorists are deep assets of CSIS.
Oddly enough, murder victims are usually not friendly with their murderers. You get this, right?
9. As far as trade is concerned, India will not stop trade and people-to-people relations completely. But the high commissioner did say, "There will be emotions on both sides which may impact a few of those deals." That is a message for Canada that yes, India will reduce trade if you push us beyond a point.
They still can't come here and break out laws ffs!
 
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