Trudeau harming relations between India and Canada?

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Obviously, you are the one obsessed with the CTV "doctoring" the video. Did you forget what is the title of this whole thread?
You are refusing to watch the whole video of Trudeau's testimony during the Foreign Interference Enquiry!!
But then you seem to adore Modi!!
You and Frankfooter seem to be talking about Modi.
I am talking about Trudeau and his stupidity and his ulterior motives.
I did watch the entire testimony.
 
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He repeatedly said they were recalled.
Then someone at CTV texted him and he changed his tune.
Just like the Indian press is pro-Modi, the Canadian press is pro-Trudeau.
Trudeau would have been coached by CSIS and lawyers to be very careful about what he's allowed to say publicly without clearance.
 

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From your post 279:
“And at that point, it was primarily intelligence, not hard evidentiary proof. So we said, ‘Well, you know, let’s work together and look into your security services, and maybe we can get that done,”’ Trudeau said,....
Also what is Trudeau thinking telling the Indians, that "we can look into your security services"?
Which country will entertain this?
Its fucking stupid!
That was years ago.
 
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Oct. 12-13: RCMP, Indian delegations meet in Singapore
RCMP Deputy Commissioner Mark Flynn went to Singapore on Oct. 12 to meet with Indian government officials and get them to co-operate with the investigation, said a senior government source.

He joined Trudeau's national security adviser Nathalie Drouin and deputy Foreign Affairs minister David Morrison, who were in the country to meet with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's national security adviser Ajit Doval.

India was asked to waive diplomatic and consular immunities and to co-operate in the investigation but "did not agree" to do so, says a statement from Global Affairs Canada.

Sources said that Indian officials asked for the meeting to remain confidential.

But as the Canadian delegation was on its way back to Ottawa, the Indian delegation leaked news of the meeting to Indian media and claimed that no police evidence was presented at the gathering, said a senior Canadian government source.
So lets look at the facts:

On Oct 12 - 13, there was a meeting that ended with the Indian government not being persuaded to co-operate with Canada. India said no evidence was given.

This breaks down to 2 possible things: Canada had no new evidence, or they had new evidence but it wasn't enough for India.

So as of now they have not shown anything to win their claim.

Now here is the thing not to lose sight of. Canada is asking India to waive diplomatic immunity to further investigations. This right here shows Canada has weak evidence to begin with.
 

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What is different today?
Trudeau has not said he has any new evidence today.
You want him to break the law and reveal CSIS reports publicly?
Why is this about Trudeau? Singh and May all having read the reports and agree.

Why are you not talking about PeePee's partying being named and his refusal to get clearance to find out who is named and for what?
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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You want him to break the law and reveal CSIS reports publicly?
Why is this about Trudeau? Singh and May all having read the reports and agree.

Why are you not talking about PeePee's partying being named and his refusal to get clearance to find out who is named and for what?
Trudeau said he has no evidence, so nothing to present or break laws.
As for CPC, provide the report to someone within CPC with security clearance.
Why doesn't he?
 

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Trudeau said he has no evidence, so nothing to present or break laws.
As for CPC, provide the report to someone within CPC with security clearance.
Why doesn't he?
Elizabeth May read the reports and said naming names puts people's lives at risk.
Even if another con has security clearance to read the report they are not allowed to tell PeePee.

Why won't PeePee get clearance to find out who in his party is using foreign interference?
Where is he hiding?
 

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That is a legal matter to be advised on by CPC lawyers.
So why not?
Maybe because its advantageous to finger point than to act?
No, its illegal to share those reports to someone without clearance.
PeePee had clearance previously, why won't he get it now?

Where is he hiding?
 

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The whole thing quite simply shows that India, with Trudeau and his cosplay/photo-op antics, coupled with the world thinking his is a joke, decided that they could do what they liked on our soil and then laugh about it.

More serious respected PM would have resulted in second thoughts on this as not being viable. Thecourting of this vote and looking the other way on security concerns with a few members of it resulted in reckless behavior on the part of the separatists and this response.

I obviously don't condone India's action. I in fact would have considered invoking NATO on this to push for an apology and the return of conspirators to Canada for trial. As well as suspending all visas etc. And made sure to use the Internet to tell India's citizens why.

But when you are a clown, people don't take you seriously.
 
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No, its illegal to share those reports to someone without clearance.
PeePee had clearance previously, why won't he get it now?

Where is he hiding?
I am asking why doesn't he share it with someone at the CPC with security clearance?
What that someone tells Pierre can be legally advised by CPC lawyers.
So why not?
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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The whole thing quite simply shows that India, with Trudeau and his cosplay/photo-op antics, coupled with the world thinking his is a joke, decided that they could do what they liked on our soil and then laugh about it.

More serious respected PM would have resulted in second thoughts on this as not being viable. Thecourting of this vote and looking the other way on security concerns with a few members of it resulted in reckless behavior on the part of the separatists and this response.

I obviously don't condone India's action. I in fact would have considered invoking NATO on this to push for an apology and the return of conspirators to Canada for trial. As well as suspending all visas etc. And made sure to use the Internet to tell India's citizens why.

But when you are a clown, people don't take you seriously.
NATO wont play ball.
Several NATO countries have billions of dollars in trade with India. Too much to lose over Sikhs.
He should have done 3 things imo.
Stepped up domestic security so any foreign actors are stopped while cracking down on criminal gangs.
Presented concrete evidence such that India couldn't refute.
Stopped encouraging separatists to use Canada as a safe haven to conduct cross border campaigns against another nation.
Especially one that is a close trade partner and a growing world power.
Very shabbily managed situation overall.
 

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I am asking why doesn't he share it with someone at the CPC with security clearance?
What that someone tells Pierre can be legally advised by CPC lawyers.
So why not?
Because legally they can't tell PeePee.
Not until he gets clearance.

Why won't he?
Where is he hiding?
 

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Because legally they can't tell PeePee.
Not until he gets clearance.

Why won't he?
Where is he hiding?
They cannot share classified information.
But they can confirm what May, Trudeau and Singh publicly have.
That would ensure that all have read it and are saying the same thing.
So why not?
 

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They cannot share classified information.
But they can confirm what May, Trudeau and Singh publicly have.
That would ensure that all have read it and are saying the same thing.
So why not?
Exactly, why hasn't that happened?
Why won't PeePee send someone with clearance in and why won't get clearance again to read it?
 

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NATO wont play ball.
Several NATO countries have billions of dollars in trade with India. Too much to lose over Sikhs.
He should have done 3 things imo.
Stepped up domestic security so any foreign actors are stopped while cracking down on criminal gangs.
Presented concrete evidence such that India couldn't refute.
Stopped encouraging separatists to use Canada as a safe haven to conduct cross border campaigns against another nation.
Especially one that is a close trade partner and a growing world power.
Very shabbily managed situation overall.
When it comes to assassination by nations they will wake up. Suddenly if Africsn nations start doing it in France, Belgium, Germany etc. I don't include the USA because no one with brains will fuck with that.

You call them privately, tell them that they need to step up. If Trudeau had any world cred he could've gotten it. Then India gets the message and either backs off, or if they go ahead, they have to burn their operatives, and take the hit.
 

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Idk why you are so obsessed with Modi and the Indian press.
Worry about CTV doctoring videos and texting a reporter on air.
You are using Modi's arguments and line of thoughts in this whole argument!!
Do you think that Canada did not expel these 6 diplomats?
This Indian High Commission Verma who was expelled, was also interviewed by Vassy Kapelos. Watch the interview and see how he tries to make up excuses that were hollow and later rebutted by the Canadian High Commissioner of India Cameron McKay. Canada had co-operated with India in the past for the extradition of those that were under investigation in India. But Modi was the one now who is betraying Canada in its investigation, especially when evidence WAS AVAILABLE IF INDIA WANTS IT. THEY DON'T WANT IT!!

 
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