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Noted, I do support Israel, But i also agree that they've gone way too far. I'm not going to argue that there has been an overwhelming response and even if the hostages are all dead. The Palestinians need to have some support. Netanyahu was taking land again and again, so yes, I am a supporter of Israel to a point.
I am sickened by what is happening over there. but the discussions here are clearly evident of the passion and want for a solution. I think I just got triggered because it seems like everyone is an expert in the subject and instead of trying to listen to the other side, they just go on and on to the point where It's exhausting
 
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xyphy said:
Noted, I do support Israel, But i also agree that they've gone way too far. I'm not going to argue that there has been an overwhelming response and even if the hostages are all dead. The Palestinians need to have some support. Netanyahu was taking land again and again, so yes, I am a supporter of Israel to a point.
I am sickened by what is happening over there. but the discussions here are clearly evident of the passion and want for a solution. I think I just got triggered because it seems like everyone is an expert in the subject and instead of trying to listen to the other side, they just go on and on to the point where It's exhausting
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I agree with your pov here.
 
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xyphy said:
Hey, I am not going to get into a pissing match with you. I am trying to find the best sp for a DT BBBJ on this forum. You guys need to get your shit together and just move over to reddit or something.
I don't really want to engage with the history of Israel and the geopolitical BS that has been forced on them for thousands of years. like I said, it will just go back and forth with every thing I submit being rebutted by someone else with another tidbit. true or not. You are a perfect example of someone that just won't quit.
If you are so passionate about it, go the Eff to Gaza and fight back to support your side
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Best you'll get is a gummy from shack if you're looking for bbbj in this forum.

Mostly this thread is a bunch of people declaring how noble and just it is to kill women and children to take their land.
The solution has been known for decades.
End the occupation of Palestine and give Palestinians the chance to live their lives.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1847590220046504041
 
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Yes, but that still needs to be adjudicated based on evidence presented.
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Agreed. But we also agreed that the courts go by the UN's definition and at this point S. Africa knows that as well, yet they laid the accusation without have said evidence to present. All they can possibly be doing is delaying, waiting for Israel to make a mistake, like starting to carpet bomb Gaza or eradicate the 2.5 million Arab Israelis living happily in Israel with rights equal to that of Jewish Israelis.

They asked for more time because they obviously don't have the proper evidence yet.
 
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I think you are wrong. Once they realize that the violence and suffering they are going through is a direct result of their government they will demand change. French revolution. Russian revolution. The Gdansk uprising in Poland. The fall of the Berlin wall.

The Gazans can see Hamas stealing their food. They can see their brothers, sisters and neighbours being intimidated for saying or doing the wrong things. They will get tired of seeing their children killed because Hamas is hiding among them. At some point they may say "we hate Israel, but Hamas is doing nothing to help us. We have had enough of our families being killed. We've had enough of war we want peace."

True change comes from within.
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It is happening.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1847721221049172051
 
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shack said:
Agreed. But we also agreed that the courts go by the UN's definition and at this point S. Africa knows that as well, yet they laid the accusation without have said evidence to present. All they can possibly be doing is delaying, waiting for Israel to make a mistake, like starting to carpet bomb Gaza or eradicate the 2.5 million Arab Israelis living happily in Israel with rights equal to that of Jewish Israelis.

They asked for more time because they obviously don't have the proper evidence yet.
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South Africa has presented evidence, Shazi, stop lying.

More evidence being collected every day.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1847663248591478848
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1847471744707076170
 
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Frankfooter said:
Best you'll get is a gummy from shack if you're looking for bbbj in this forum.

Mostly this thread is a bunch of people declaring how noble and just it is to kill women and children to take their land.
The solution has been known for decades.
End the occupation of Palestine and give Palestinians the chance to live their lives.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1847590220046504041
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I like a little bit of teeth, but I'd be down for a gummy...
 
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South Africa has presented evidence, Shazi, stop lying.
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But the evidence is total shit. It's obviously clear that even they know that the evidence they presented is insufficient have a winning case. That's why they want more time.

Why didn't they provide a complete case with solid evidence when initially levelling the accusations if it's so cut and dried as you like to paint it. Making accusations without sufficient evidence is almost as stupid as Oct.7 and the Arab leaders rejecting the land offered to them in 1948, and Arab entities attacking Israel multiple times when they get beat every time.

Do you notice a pattern here, Geno. Everything that your side does is stupid. They never make the right decision. And you're stupid to think that anyone believes all your lies/gaslighting.
 
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shack said:
Agreed. But we also agreed that the courts go by the UN's definition and at this point S. Africa knows that as well, yet they laid the accusation without have said evidence to present. All they can possibly be doing is delaying, waiting for Israel to make a mistake, like starting to carpet bomb Gaza or eradicate the 2.5 million Arab Israelis living happily in Israel with rights equal to that of Jewish Israelis.

They asked for more time because they obviously don't have the proper evidence yet.
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There were some repugnant and undisciplined comments initially by the wackjob assholes in Neta's cabinet that suggested genocide was on the minds of some asshole Israelis. But those were squelched. And the IDF appears rule-based and appropriate.

At this point, I think SA just wants to keep delaying the hearing until the public forgets and the petition can be quietly withdrawn.
 
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But the evidence is total shit. It's obviously clear that even they know that the evidence they presented is insufficient have a winning case. That's why they want more time.

Why didn't they provide a complete case with solid evidence when initially levelling the accusations if it's so cut and dried as you like to paint it. Making accusations without sufficient evidence is almost as stupid as Oct.7 and the Arab leaders rejecting the land offered to them in 1948, and Arab entities attacking Israel multiple times when they get beat every time.

Do you notice a pattern here, Geno. Everything that your side does is stupid. They never make the right decision. And you're stupid to think that anyone believes all your lies/gaslighting.
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Deflection
 
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