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At that age, I was already a little bit bit shy and introverted, and this made me a lot more self conscious and awkward. I’d had minimal experience with girls before (maybe made out a couple times). Made my first experience having sex an unpleasant one. Did I at least look at myself and say “good job man, you got laid, and this older lady thought you were hot!” No, I felt like a creep, and had to feel that way every time she came over to see my parents, and I felt like a bit of a perv and a freak, fucking an older lady who I didn’t really even find attractive. This stuck with me for quite a while as a teen and young man, and definitely impacted my early relationships with girls my own age.

Don’t feel too sorry for me, I’ve dealt with it and grown past it, and can talk about it freely now (to select people, a very few close friends, psychiatrists and you anon TERB people here lol). I don’t blame this incident for all of my problems, but i do remember it as the start of me having of a negative view of myself as a person. It wasn’t at all a positive experience and I wished it never happened. As an adult I can look back and see how I was groomed, manipulated and somewhat coerced (with alcohol) and afterwards told that I would definitely have to keep it secret and other people would definitely not understand. Sound familiar from thousands of other cases of adults taking advantage of kids / teens? I also can see how she exploited a young guy’s biologically high sex drive and need to fuck for her own kinks. (I think adult women who have sex with teens know this and use this weakness to their advantage, and justify it as “he wanted it anyway, he’s a guy afterall”).

Anyway, just a perspective from someone who has actually lived this, and not some random bros who think that as a guy, no matter what age, any pussy is good pussy.
I'm not trying to be an ass, although I am sure some will take it that way.

Do you believe you may have felt differently had you been attracted to her? Let's say it would have been her 25-year-old daughter and very attractive. I am not arguing the legality which is black and white, I'm more interested in how you would have looked at it and felt if the scenario played out a little differently.

You were put in a situation where I will agree she raped you, not in a violent way as you reluctantly went along with it but if the book was thrown at her I would say she deserved it.
 

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I'm not trying to be an ass, although I am sure some will take it that way.

Do you believe you may have felt differently had you been attracted to her? Let's say it would have been her 25-year-old daughter and very attractive. I am not arguing the legality which is black and white, I'm more interested in how you would have looked at it and felt if the scenario played out a little differently.

You were put in a situation where I will agree she raped you, not in a violent way as you reluctantly went along with it but if the book was thrown at her I would say she deserved it.
Don’t think you are being an ass, especially the way you asked.
To answer your question, don’t know for sure, but doubt it would have made a huge difference. She was in her mid/ late 30s, so her daughter was actually just a little younger than me. Not that it is too relevant, but objectively she wasn’t at all unattractive, now I’d probably consider her decently hot, but she was in her mid 30s, and I was attracted to 15 year old girls at the time, 30 something year old women were not on my radar at all, hot or not. She was only about 5-6 years younger than my mom.
 
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Don’t think you are being an ass, especially the way you asked.
To answer your question, don’t know for sure, but doubt it would have made a huge difference. She was in her mid/ late 30s, so her daughter was actually just a little younger than me. Not that it is too relevant, but objectively she wasn’t at all unattractive, now I’d probably consider her decently hot, but she was in her mid 30s, and I was attracted to 15 year old girls at the time, 30 something year old women were not on my radar at all, hot or not. She was only about 5-6 years younger than my mom.
I get that and again if it's not one's thing then yes, it's manipulation by the adult. Excuse my double standard, I admit my view is only one-sided depending on whether it's an underage girl or boy. In my case, I was looking for it, hoping for it and when it happened with the stripper I felt like a champ. A teacher or a decent neighbor in my mind back then would have been a deep notch in my belt because in my mind the stripper was technically a sex worker.
 

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Didn't the cops charge the dad or am I mistaken.
They found an incidence where he made a loud noise in the past and dropped the Child Endangerment charge in exchange for a guilty plea on Dusturbing The Peace.


Disturbing the Peace is usually a misdemeanor requiring no jail time and no Good Boy Conversion Program, so he should be okay at the upcoming sentencing hearing. His last Facebook-listed occupation is a self-employed roofer, so a misdemeanor won’t hurt him if he is still roofing.

It is good father/son work if there are enough storm-damaged roofs, which there has usually been with storm-induced climate change. In one respect, I do feel sorry for the son. He has a year or so of going from a lot of sex with the 20-some year old teacher, to now asking out the high-school chicks he was always supposed to date. A bit tricky in a small Jesus-loving rural town in the Midwest where the parents want the daughter to always leave the door open while they are watching the moving picture show during courtship.
 

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I have spoken out against this on TERB for years. Called for equal treatment and punishment and just get hit with the same “she’s hot” “lucky kid” comments.

There have been men and are men who are currently reading threads like this who have been in this situation and have explained how it fucked them up later in life. How they never understood until they dealt with the trauma of being molested as a teen and yet these lucky kid comments will always still happen.

The way the trauma works to screw kids and their sexuality later in life is messed. It is the same with the older neighbour MILF, etc.

Just like anyone who has not gone through it, you don’t truly understand the trauma of rape unless it happens to you. There are men on this board who choose not to speak out anymore because of the shame and ridicule they receive from men on this board saying they were lucky.

What the teachers do is sick but the comments here are also completely bad form.

And yet men bitch about equality and double standards all the time too. Makes no sense to me. 🙄
BS. There are no men on this site who would ever be damaged by this. It’s the ultimate fantasy for a 16 year old heterosexual man.

This is not a book reader club, it’s a pooner board.
 
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I wish I got to fuck the life out of my math teacher. Can you imagine learning sex through math with a hot teacher. Let me insert this penis into you in a 45 degree angle. That’s an acute angle.

I would’ve been a mathematician today
 

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BS. There are no men on this site who would ever be damaged by this. It’s the ultimate fantasy for a 16 year old heterosexual man.

This is not a book reader club, it’s a pooner board.
I’m only responding because this is the dumbest fucking comment here. There is literally a poster who has posted about this same thing in this fucking thread. An older woman with him being 15. Read the whole fucking thread and then comment. 🙄
 

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BS. There are no men on this site who would ever be damaged by this. It’s the ultimate fantasy for a 16 year old heterosexual man.

This is not a book reader club, it’s a pooner board.
It would have changed you if it had happened. Whether that change would have been for the good, or for the bad, is debatable.

Like it or not, society has decided to idealize childhood, and to a slightly lesser extent, early adulthood.

I got very sick and tired of a generation of coming of age movies where losing virginity was the theme of the movie, with the implication that a first sexual experience was the best one a person will ever have. That is fucking stupid and inaccurate. I think every Hooker and John on the board would actually agree on that. I think we should stop acting like childhood is someone’s whole life. Could he consent? He got an erection and fucked her, so yes, he could.

It used to be the protection of female virginity was a rural, religious thing, and part of male ownership of a wife, who she was given away to by her father, after being properly asked by the groom. Enough to make someone puke. One rural U.S. state actually had a different age of consent depending upon whether the underaged person was a virgin. These laws were indeed drafted with the thought that the underaged person would be a female. Imagine going back to the past when the laws were being drafted and say: But Gentlemen of the Legislature, What if the Adult is a 26-Year old Married Lady Whose Husband Prefers Anal Sex But She Doesn’t, Would She Be Committing a Crime If She Had Vaginal Sex With a Young Sixteen Year-Old Squire in His Father’s Driveway With His Father’s Knowledge? I think they would say no, that is not a crime, but there is not enough parchment to write that into law. Please return to the future and thank you for the relief that we will be long dead by then.

Now the U.S. is less religious, but we have a system where certain people must be protected from being led off the Path to Success. Families are smaller, and the children of highly-successful helicopter parents better goddamn well not get tempted into anything that keeps them from being a Doctor or a Lawyer. Now was there a Power Imbalance here? A female teacher in bumfuck Missouri making 50K a year and the son of the self-employed roofer? I doubt it. But there are a hell of a lot of parents who think any such sex might have the small chance of derailing the perfect life of their prized children, so they will bring hellfire down on everyone when it happens. There are plenty of laws requiring mandatory reporting upstream to prosecutors, and lots of exploitive media that can’t wait to tell the salacious story.

At one time, it would have been a rumor everyone could deny. Now with life being recorded on cell phone texts, everyone’s life is altered for the worse. The teacher is a felon. She might not do anymore time after her good-girl conversion therapy, but if she has to register as a sex offender, her future employment and residential prospects are limited. Her kids are likely to grow up in poverty unless her parents or in-laws are rich. Her ex-hubby, if a bit of Facebook matching is accurate, has a half-way decent job but seems more interested in his amateur MMA type fighting club. The kid’s dad will be fine. He can just mutter “fucking kids” as he climbs up the roof, and most homeowners will nod in agreement, since only a few parents are those helicopter parents of the Future Leaders of America.

That brings us to the kid. He is certainly worse off now than if this hadn’t come to light. He has a couple of years of bullshit to deal with. It might cause him to hit the books and get an education and get the fuck out of Shitsville. Now would he have been better off if it had never happened at all. Of course, since it came to light, and things like this almost always do in the technological age. It is almost like 1984. Someone will hand them the card You Are The Dead. It seems that a lot of us are debating whether he would have had his life enhanced had the experience occurred but wouldn’t have been found out. A few idealists would argue that he would have been less likely to have found his True Love at high school while banging the teacher, but unless he was in the top 5 percent overall of kids in terms of having it all together in high school, I doubt that was going to have happened anyway.

At the end of the day, it is the kind of American Tragedy that befalls people in rural America and people in general who aren’t in the top echelon. If you had a high-school kid, there is no way you would advise them to become a teacher in today’s environment in the U.S. Shit happens, and People Fuck. But the consequences when that happens to teachers now is horrible.
 
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BS. There are no men on this site who would ever be damaged by this. It’s the ultimate fantasy for a 16 year old heterosexual man.

This is not a book reader club, it’s a pooner board.
You are wrong here.

Do you know what a Bell curve is???

I am not going to Humansplain here but nice postings BTW.

I know People who broke their Virginity at 25. No regrets and I know High School people that regretted it at 14. Some changed for the better others didn't.

Some were pushed by their parents and they were not ready for sex or relationship because of trauma reasons.

Yes there are some people who are ready at 14 but these people whether trauma or maturity, older cousins or past life reasons are ready. Not everyone is built the same.
And the 1000-1850's were different times and people got married early in life. But supposedly they lived shorter lives.

To me the whole story is weird , having a "lookout" kids???
 
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I’m only responding because this is the dumbest fucking comment here. There is literally a poster who has posted about this same thing in this fucking thread. An older woman with him being 15. Read the whole fucking thread and then comment. 🙄
The guy is damaged goods anyway. That experience will not rattle most balanced men.
 

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It would have changed you if it had happened. Whether that change would have been for the good, or for the bad, is debatable.

Like it or not, society has decided to idealize childhood, and to a slightly lesser extent, early adulthood.

I got very sick and tired of a generation of coming of age movies where losing virginity was the theme of the movie, with the implication that a first sexual experience was the best one a person will ever have. That is fucking stupid and inaccurate. I think every Hooker and John on the board would actually agree on that. I think we should stop acting like childhood is someone’s whole life. Could he consent? He got an erection and fucked her, so yes, he could.

It used to be the protection of female virginity was a rural, religious thing, and part of male ownership of a wife, who she was given away to by her father, after being properly asked by the groom. Enough to make someone puke. One rural U.S. state actually had a different age of consent depending upon whether the underaged person was a virgin. These laws were indeed drafted with the thought that the underaged person would be a female. Imagine going back to the past when the laws were being drafted and say: But Gentlemen of the Legislature, What if the Adult is a 26-Year old Married Lady Whose Husband Prefers Anal Sex But She Doesn’t, Would She Be Committing a Crime If She Had Vaginal Sex With a Young Sixteen Year-Old Squire in His Father’s Driveway With His Father’s Knowledge? I think they would say no, that is not a crime, but there is not enough parchment to write that into law. Please return to the future and thank you for the relief that we will be long dead by then.

Now the U.S. is less religious, but we have a system where certain people must be protected from being led off the Path to Success. Families are smaller, and the children of highly-successful helicopter parents better goddamn well not get tempted into anything that keeps them from being a Doctor or a Lawyer. Now was there a Power Imbalance here? A female teacher in bumfuck Missouri making 50K a year and the son of the self-employed roofer? I doubt it. But there are a hell of a lot of parents who think any such sex might have the small chance of derailing the perfect life of their prized children, so they will bring hellfire down on everyone when it happens. There are plenty of laws requiring mandatory reporting upstream to prosecutors, and lots of exploitive media that can’t wait to tell the salacious story.

At one time, it would have been a rumor everyone could deny. Now with life being recorded on cell phone texts, everyone’s life is altered for the worse. The teacher is a felon. She might not do anymore time after her good-girl conversion therapy, but if she has to register as a sex offender, her future employment and residential prospects are limited. Her kids are likely to grow up in poverty unless her parents or in-laws are rich. Her ex-hubby, if a bit of Facebook matching is accurate, has a half-way decent job but seems more interested in his amateur MMA type fighting club. The kid’s dad will be fine. He can just mutter “fucking kids” as he climbs up the roof, and most homeowners will nod in agreement, since only a few parents are those helicopter parents of the Future Leaders of America.

That brings us to the kid. He is certainly worse off now than if this hadn’t come to light. He has a couple of years of bullshit to deal with. It might cause him to hit the books and get an education and get the fuck out of Shitsville. Now would he have been better off if it had never happened at all. Of course, since it came to light, and things like this almost always do in the technological age. It is almost like 1984. Someone will hand them the card You Are The Dead. It seems that a lot of us are debating whether he would have had his life enhanced had the experience occurred but wouldn’t have been found out. A few idealists would argue that he would have been less likely to have found his True Love at high school while banging the teacher, but unless he was in the top 5 percent overall of kids in terms of having it all together in high school, I doubt that was going to have happened anyway.

At the end of the day, it is the kind of American Tragedy that befalls people in rural America and people in general who aren’t in the top echelon. If you had a high-school kid, there is no way you would advise them to become a teacher in today’s environment in the U.S. Shit happens, and People Fuck. But the consequences when that happens to teachers now is horrible.
i joined the forces at 16. You’re not a child.
 
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You are wrong here.

Do you know what a Bell curve is???

I am not going to Humansplain here but nice postings BTW.

I know People who broke their Virginity at 25. No regrets and I know High School people that regretted it at 14. Some changed for the better others didn't.

Some were pushed by their parents and they were not ready for sex or relationship because of trauma reasons.

Yes there are some people who are ready at 14 but these people whether trauma or maturity, older cousins or past life reasons are ready. Not everyone is built the same.
And the 1000-1850's were different times and people got married early in life. But supposedly they lived shorter lives.

To me the whole story is weird , having a "lookout" kids???
You lost me at humansplain.
 
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Sorry if you all lay wounded with your sexual experiences. You have two choices. Be a high value man and think you were lucky as fuck or just be a big baby and cry about it.
 
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The guy is damaged goods anyway. That experience will not rattle most balanced men.
“High vale man”. That is so laughable.

Takes a real “high value man” to disregard the trauma of others. You’re disgusting and damaged goods.

I know your ego desperately needs it so you can have the last word. You’re going on ignore anyway. Anyone who labels themselves as a “high value man” has some serious issues and I personally don’t have the desire to deal with men with such insecurities that the label themselves that way.
 

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Thank you both.

Last post, I swear. For those interested.

Just for those interested. Now I’m out of this thread. I personally can’t handle some of the comments without getting truly angry and I don’t come to this board to get mad.
I thought you said you were out of here about 3 pages ago.

I know your ego desperately needs it so you can have the last word.
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