teacher left claw marks on a teen’s back after sex as other students were ‘lookouts’

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Geez, I would be pulling my hair out in any rural setting. Looking at green pastures, horses and cows is only fun as a drive-by but to see it every day, I'd be bald, fat and crying in my fresh unpasteurized milk.
You forgot guns.
 

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I have spoken out against this on TERB for years. Called for equal treatment and punishment and just get hit with the same “she’s hot” “lucky kid” comments.

There have been men and are men who are currently reading threads like this who have been in this situation and have explained how it fucked them up later in life. How they never understood until they dealt with the trauma of being molested as a teen and yet these lucky kid comments will always still happen.

The way the trauma works to screw kids and their sexuality later in life is messed. It is the same with the older neighbour MILF, etc.

Just like anyone who has not gone through it, you don’t truly understand the trauma of rape unless it happens to you. There are men on this board who choose not to speak out anymore because of the shame and ridicule they receive from men on this board saying they were lucky.

What the teachers do is sick but the comments here are also completely bad form.

And yet men bitch about equality and double standards all the time too. Makes no sense to me. 🙄
Thanks @Jenesis. You have stated it very well.
 

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Thank you. You explained it very well.
Thanks @Jenesis. You have stated it very well.
Thank you both.

Last post, I swear. For those interested. Clinical symptomatic behaviours and issues that can arise are intimacy and communication issues, hyper sexuality, porn addiction, sex addiction, boundaries limit pushing ( not to be confused the pushing boundaries of consent), depression, anxiety, compulsive sexual behaviours, incel ideology, lack of ability to pair bond, chronic infidelity issues, etc.

Not saying all these things happen. These are just some of the things that could happen. These are proven and often need years of treatments, therapies, medications, etc.

Just for those interested. Now I’m out of this thread. I personally can’t handle some of the comments without getting truly angry and I don’t come to this board to get mad.
 

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Thanks again @Jenesis. I realize everyone who goes through something like this will have a different experience, and some may enjoy it even. Doesn’t make it right tho. I’m sure some 16 year old girls that have sex with the gym teacher also enjoyed it, but it’s not right. The adults that do this are not just horny, they fetishize having sex with teenagers, and take advantage of their youth and inexperience. (In my case I was told “OMG, you are like the same age as my daughter, this is SOOO naughty!) Not right. If you read stories like this of adult women having sex with teen boys you will also notice common themes that you will have heard before in other cases of abuse, eg techniques of grooming, giving them alcohol/ substances/ telling them that they should be “lucky” they are being “taught” these “skills”, and that when they say no that their body reacting a certain way indicates what they “really want to do.” I could go on.

If all of this sounds icky in the context of a male adult/ female teen, why not the other way around?
 

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Thank you both.

Last post, I swear. For those interested. Clinical symptomatic behaviours and issues that can arise are intimacy and communication issues, hyper sexuality, porn addiction, sex addiction, boundaries limit pushing ( not to be confused the pushing boundaries of consent), depression, anxiety, compulsive sexual behaviours, incel ideology, lack of ability to pair bond, chronic infidelity issues, etc.

Not saying all these things happen. These are just some of the things that could happen. These are proven and often need years of treatments, therapies, medications, etc.

Just for those interested. Now I’m out of this thread. I personally can’t handle some of the comments without getting truly angry and I don’t come to this board to get mad.
Men will have to figure themselves out when it comes to dealing with this kind of situation. This is the kind of culture that closet men even more when it comes to be vulnerable and express their feelings. Being brushed off, invalidated like that. It's a bit our society's fault.
 

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If you really read most of the facts of these cases that have gone to court, you find it is the student that initiated the contact, especially when the adult was female.

You can believe grooming all you want, but the initial contact is usually by the student.

It isn’t all that difficult to figure out how it happens in fucked-up America, especially in the rural parts.

For starters, puberty hits earlier. Now I know people will come along and say that doesn’t include the brain. Okay, fine. But initial sexual attractiveness doesn’t include the brain.

So you have high school kids who look exactly like people in their 20s looked like decades ago. We can thank the Fast Food industry for that, and the additives made to animal feed to get them to grow faster. The human kids eat the food produced by killing those animals.

A young female teacher goes to school and is amazed by the looks and bodies of the high school girls, compared to even just a few years ago. And we live in a world where the budget for hair, make-up, cars and trips for high school girls has increased like 1,000 percent over decades ago. Women are competitive. The young female teacher isn’t that much older than them, but has put on some pounds. She has big boobs though, and she knows how to strut, or at least where camel-toe outfits. She happens to notice that the guys are more muscular than when she went to high school.

Now let’s drill down on the high school girls. They are going places in life. We live in the world of Female Empowerment. They have social media and feel part of the larger world, not just limited to their high school. They aren’t looking to date and marry one of their high school guy peers, especially in rural America. They are getting the fuck out of that rural place. Are they having affairs with their male teachers? Are you fucking kidding. This isn’t the 1950s where the male coach was shown as the ultimate role model at Pep Rallies, and their future prospects were in that hometown. If one of the male teachers hit on them, they would spit out their fancy Starbucks drink and say, are you kidding? Aren’t you going to cap out at a salary of $60K?

Now let’s go back to the young female teacher who got stuck in rural America under a program that helps pay off her ungodly student loans. If she is married, she has started to get the two year itch. Worse if she has kids and changes diapers every day. Her hubby ain’t making jack shit money, and her parents aren’t funding those high school spring break trips down to a resort in Mexico that all these hot high school girls are talking about nonstop. She overhears their snide comments and laughs about majoring in Education.

One day the nice, polite and well-built high school guy contacts her back channel on social media. He ain’t scoring with these uppity high school girls the young female teacher has secretly come to hate. At first it is innocent, but she needs an escape from her life, and one thing leads to another. They found each other and nobody should really give a shit about their little fling.

These women aren’t criminals. And the high school guy doesn’t live the life of one of those characters on Glee or High School Musical. Fortunately, the judges in many of these cases involving a female teach and a 16 year-old or older male seem to agree (but not always). That is my take, anyway, including why you read about it happening so much. Blast me if you want. Now you can say the high school kid might get his heart broken if he thinks the fling is the real thing. But that happens throughout life. Is it really that big of a deal at 16 versus 17 versus 18 versus 25? And I doubt if that many high school guys get their hearts broken too much. Young women mature faster than young men in every way but one. Guys figure out that life is basically shit at a younger age. I think that is because Disney has figured out that selling fantasy to little girls is a huge money maker, and those young women carry the torch for Fantasy and Prince Charming longer in life. As I mentioned previously, it is one of the reasons these high school guys are scoring with the young female teachers who have hit the hard knocks of life and are susceptible to an escape when contacted on social media by the guys. It is of course better for the guys to not contact them, and better for the young female teacher to just not do social media, text or email. In fact, given what happens in these cases, it is better that they not go into education at all. This particular teacher’s job prospects are going to be limited even if she successfully completes Sex Addiction Therapy and gets her remaining sentence suspended.
 
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If you really read most of the facts of these cases that have gone to court, you find it is the student that initiated the contact, especially when the adult was female.

You can believe grooming all you want, but the initial contact is usually by the student.

It isn’t all that difficult to figure out how it happens in fucked-up America, especially in the rural parts.

For starters, puberty hits earlier. Now I know people will come along and say that doesn’t include the brain. Okay, fine. But initial sexual attractiveness doesn’t include the brain.

So you have high school kids who look exactly like people in their 20s looked like decades ago. We can thank the Fast Food industry for that, and the additives made to animal feed to get them to grow faster. The human kids eat the food produced by killing those animals.

A young female teacher goes to school and is amazed by the looks and bodies of the high school girls, compared to even just a few years ago. And we live in a world where the budget for hair, make-up, cars and trips for high school girls has increased like 1,000 percent over decades ago. Women are competitive. The young female teacher isn’t that much older than them, but has put on some pounds. She has big boobs though, and she knows how to strut, or at least where camel-toe outfits. She happens to notice that the guys are more muscular than when she went to high school.

Now let’s drill down on the high school girls. They are going places in life. We live in the world of Female Empowerment. They have social media and feel part of the larger world, not just limited to their high school. They aren’t looking to date and marry one of their high school guy peers, especially in rural America. They are getting the fuck out of that rural place. Are they having affairs with their male teachers? Are you fucking kidding. This isn’t the 1950s where the male coach was shown as the ultimate role model at Pep Rallies, and their future prospects were in that hometown. If one of the male teachers hit on them, they would spit out their fancy Starbucks drink and say, are you kidding? Aren’t you going to cap out at a salary of $60K?

Now let’s go back to the young female teacher who got stuck in rural America under a program that helps pay off her ungodly student loans. If she is married, she has started to get the two year itch. Worse if she has kids and changes diapers every day. Her hubby ain’t making jack shit money, and her parents aren’t funding those high school spring break trips down to a resort in Mexico that all these hot high school girls are talking about nonstop. She overhears their snide comments and laughs about majoring in Education.

One day the nice, polite and well-built high school guy contacts her back channel on social media. He ain’t scoring with these uppity high school girls the young female teacher has secretly come to hate. At first it is innocent, but she needs an escape from her life, and one thing leads to another. They found each other and nobody should really give a shit about their little fling.

These women aren’t criminals. And the high school guy doesn’t live the life of one of those characters on Glee or High School Musical. Fortunately, the judges in many of these cases involving a female teach and a 16 year-old or older male seem to agree (but not always). That is my take, anyway, including why you read about it happening so much. Blast me if you want. Now you can say the high school kid might get his heart broken if he thinks the fling is the real thing. But that happens throughout life. Is it really that big of a deal at 16 versus 17 versus 18 versus 25? And I doubt if that many high school guys get their hearts broken too much. Young women mature faster than young men in every way but one. Guys figure out that life is basically shit at a younger age. I think that is because Disney has figured out that selling fantasy to little girls is a huge money maker, and those young women carry the torch for Fantasy and Prince Charming longer in life. As I mentioned previously, it is one of the reasons these high school guys are scoring with the young female teachers who have hit the hard knocks of life and are susceptible to an escape when contacted on social media by the guys. It is of course better for the guys to not contact them, and better for the young female teacher to just not do social media, text or email. In fact, given what happens in these cases, it is better that they not go into education at all. This particular teacher’s job prospects are going to be limited even if she successfully completes Sex Addiction Therapy and gets her remaining sentence suspended.
We, as a society, cannot start normalizing this at any level.
 

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If you really read most of the facts of these cases that have gone to court, you find it is the student that initiated the contact, especially when the adult was female.

You can believe grooming all you want, but the initial contact is usually by the student.

It isn’t all that difficult to figure out how it happens in fucked-up America, especially in the rural parts.

For starters, puberty hits earlier. Now I know people will come along and say that doesn’t include the brain. Okay, fine. But initial sexual attractiveness doesn’t include the brain.

So you have high school kids who look exactly like people in their 20s looked like decades ago. We can thank the Fast Food industry for that, and the additives made to animal feed to get them to grow faster. The human kids eat the food produced by killing those animals.

A young female teacher goes to school and is amazed by the looks and bodies of the high school girls, compared to even just a few years ago. And we live in a world where the budget for hair, make-up, cars and trips for high school girls has increased like 1,000 percent over decades ago. Women are competitive. The young female teacher isn’t that much older than them, but has put on some pounds. She has big boobs though, and she knows how to strut, or at least where camel-toe outfits. She happens to notice that the guys are more muscular than when she went to high school.

Now let’s drill down on the high school girls. They are going places in life. We live in the world of Female Empowerment. They have social media and feel part of the larger world, not just limited to their high school. They aren’t looking to date and marry one of their high school guy peers, especially in rural America. They are getting the fuck out of that rural place. Are they having affairs with their male teachers? Are you fucking kidding. This isn’t the 1950s where the male coach was shown as the ultimate role model at Pep Rallies, and their future prospects were in that hometown. If one of the male teachers hit on them, they would spit out their fancy Starbucks drink and say, are you kidding? Aren’t you going to cap out at a salary of $60K?

Now let’s go back to the young female teacher who got stuck in rural America under a program that helps pay off her ungodly student loans. If she is married, she has started to get the two year itch. Worse if she has kids and changes diapers every day. Her hubby ain’t making jack shit money, and her parents aren’t funding those high school spring break trips down to a resort in Mexico that all these hot high school girls are talking about nonstop. She overhears their snide comments and laughs about majoring in Education.

One day the nice, polite and well-built high school guy contacts her back channel on social media. He ain’t scoring with these uppity high school girls the young female teacher has secretly come to hate. At first it is innocent, but she needs an escape from her life, and one thing leads to another. They found each other and nobody should really give a shit about their little fling.

These women aren’t criminals. And the high school guy doesn’t live the life of one of those characters on Glee or High School Musical. Fortunately, the judges in many of these cases involving a female teach and a 16 year-old or older male seem to agree (but not always). That is my take, anyway, including why you read about it happening so much. Blast me if you want. Now you can say the high school kid might get his heart broken if he thinks the fling is the real thing. But that happens throughout life. Is it really that big of a deal at 16 versus 17 versus 18 versus 25? And I doubt if that many high school guys get their hearts broken too much. Young women mature faster than young men in every way but one. Guys figure out that life is basically shit at a younger age. I think that is because Disney has figured out that selling fantasy to little girls is a huge money maker, and those young women carry the torch for Fantasy and Prince Charming longer in life. As I mentioned previously, it is one of the reasons these high school guys are scoring with the young female teachers who have hit the hard knocks of life and are susceptible to an escape when contacted on social media by the guys. It is of course better for the guys to not contact them, and better for the young female teacher to just not do social media, text or email. In fact, given what happens in these cases, it is better that they not go into education at all. This particular teacher’s job prospects are going to be limited even if she successfully completes Sex Addiction Therapy and gets her remaining sentence suspended.
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We, as a society, cannot start normalizing this at any level.
Granted it is an argument made by defense attorneys in these cases, but they argue that the male student contacted the female teacher at a vulnerable time in her life. Some schools make it a serious rule violation for a student to contact a teacher at all using electronics. Probably not a bad lesson for the kids to learn given the no-dating policies of most U.S. corporations.
 

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I live a few blocks away from a public school. The students are all in grade 8 or younger, possibly grade 6. I saw one student from a distance who had DD breasts.
It is a problem society needs to fix. Kids don’t really get to be innocent kids when they enter biological adulthood that early. Plus it will likely kill us all a lot earlier.
 

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Y'all should watch May December. It's a rare film that seriously tackles this sort of relationship dynamic instead of using it as a punchline. Except in this case the young guy marries the older woman and the trauma rears its head well into his adulthood. Even if the guy is into it at the time, who knows how he'll look back on this experience in the future.

Yeah, the teacher in this story sure is conventionally attractive. Who says abusers, or at the very least wildly criminally irresponsible people, can't be? The *idea* of getting with a hot teacher like that would've been amazing to horny high school me and adult me now. But as outside adult observers we need to acknowledge that an older authority figure knocking boots with a not yet fully developed teen is wrong.
 

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I have spoken out against this on TERB for years. Called for equal treatment and punishment and just get hit with the same “she’s hot” “lucky kid” comments.

There have been men and are men who are currently reading threads like this who have been in this situation and have explained how it fucked them up later in life. How they never understood until they dealt with the trauma of being molested as a teen and yet these lucky kid comments will always still happen.

The way the trauma works to screw kids and their sexuality later in life is messed. It is the same with the older neighbour MILF, etc.

Just like anyone who has not gone through it, you don’t truly understand the trauma of rape unless it happens to you. There are men on this board who choose not to speak out anymore because of the shame and ridicule they receive from men on this board saying they were lucky.

What the teachers do is sick but the comments here are also completely bad form.

And yet men bitch about equality and double standards all the time too. Makes no sense to me. 🙄
he was 16 , not 12... relax!
 

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It is a problem society needs to fix. Kids don’t really get to be innocent kids when they enter biological adulthood that early. Plus it will likely kill us all a lot earlier.

The global economy would benefit if average life expectancy dropped significantly. There aren't too many people on Earth, but a disproportionate number of them are old, and not enough of them in the developed world are young.
 
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Good movie with Cate Blanchette and Judi Dench on this subject a few years back.
"Notes on a Scandal"


Sometimes it works out well. :mad:Good rebuttal by Cate Blanchette to her judgmental snitch, cunt accuser.
 
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The global economy would benefit if average life expectancy dropped significantly. There aren't too many people on Earth, but a disproportionate number of them are old, and not enough of them in the developed world are young.
The current geezers ate better food when they were young. It is a lifetime of eating this hormone acceleration stuff left over in the dead animals we eat that is the concern for the young people who are taller and more muscular in their teens than any previous generation. the fat and muscle goes to the right places in their teens. But not so much after that. Which is why people have been peaking in looks and physique younger, and that creates some of these issues for younger teachers who interact with them.

The generational divide here is interesting. And while touching, I am skeptical that young people are going to be as devastated as some suggest. Not that long ago, there was a premise that a guy would find The One at a young age and marry just that person, but it wouldn’t be easy. The plot of a ton of movies was Boy Gets Girl, Boy Loses Girl, then Boy Gets Girl Back. Another popular plot was Boy Gets Rejected by Girl, but is Persistent, Improves Himself, and Then Gets Girl. While granted, that is not healthy emotionally for anyone, Feminism has ended that. Young men are now taught to accept rejection and leave her alone if she is not interested at first, or later in the relationship. Now I realize it is different in religious, private schools. But this is Public School, and this young man was being raised by Cool Shirtless Dad, who as a man in rural America has passed down some wisdom to his son that life doesn’t work out like those fucking preachers and old people say it does.

It would have been okay here folks, if Someone Hadn’t Told. It certainly wasn’t, as someone else posted, the kid complaining. If a few days after around his graduation, she had a serious talk with him that she has been taking Yoga classes and getting better at the anal sex her hubby likes so well, mostly because it would be devastating to her kids if the marriage ended. He would have privately thought, Yeah, Whatever Bitch, and thank god I don’t have to take care of your kids since I want to have some enjoyment in my twenties. They taught us in Sociology Class that the average U.S. marriage lasts eight years, and you are only on Year Six, hope you find another Boy Toy to get you through the rest of it. He probably would have actually told her that she had meant the world to him (with some truth since he was happy and proud that he had gotten so much more pussy than his friends did during this trip through the minimum-security prison called High School), but he would be saying this to her in case she wanted to see him when he is back in the shithole little town on weekends and holidays after he gets the fuck out of the place after high school graduation.

That is the Reality here folks. This chick doesn’t belong in prison after she successfully completes her psycho-babble Sex Addiction program. Now that would make a good episode of Orange is the New Black. I wonder if anyone sneaks a vibrator into the Women’s Dorm. With this lady’s bad luck, she will probably only get a contraband giant butt plug.
 
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The thing is you have never been a young teenage boy, I have and have had many friends who were also young teenage boys.
If this were the politics section, somebody would ask you to prove it.
 
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The current geezers ate better food when they were young. It is a lifetime of eating this hormone acceleration stuff left over in the dead animals we eat that is the concern for the young people who are taller and more muscular in their teens than any previous generation. the fat and muscle goes to the right places in their teens. But not so much after that. Which is why people have been peaking in looks and physique younger, and that creates some of these issues for younger teachers who interact with them.

The generational divide here is interesting. And while touching, I am skeptical that young people are going to be as devastated as some suggest. Not that long ago, there was a premise that a guy would find The One at a young age and marry just that person, but it wouldn’t be easy. The plot of a ton of movies was Boy Gets Girl, Boy Loses Girl, then Boy Gets Girl Back. Another popular plot was Boy Gets Rejected by Girl, but is Persistent, Improves Himself, and Then Gets Girl. While granted, that is not healthy emotionally for anyone, Feminism has ended that. Young men are now taught to accept rejection and leave her alone if she is not interested at first, or later in the relationship. Now I realize it is different in religious, private schools. But this is Public School, and this young man was being raised by Cool Shirtless Dad, who as a man in rural America has passed down some wisdom to his son that life doesn’t work out like those fucking preachers and old people say it does.

It would have been okay here folks, if Someone Hadn’t Told. It certainly wasn’t, as someone else posted, the kid complaining. If a few days after around his graduation, she had a serious talk with him that she has been taking Yoga classes and getting better at the anal sex her hubby likes so well, mostly because it would be devastating to her kids if the marriage ended. He would have privately thought, Yeah, Whatever Bitch, and thank god I don’t have to take care of your kids since I want to have some enjoyment in my twenties. They taught us in Sociology Class that the average U.S. marriage lasts eight years, and you are only on Year Six, hope you find another Boy Toy to get you through the rest of it. He probably would have actually told her that she had meant the world to him (with some truth since he was happy and proud that he had gotten so much more pussy than his friends did during this trip through the minimum-security prison called High School), but he would be saying this to her in case she wanted to see him when he is back in the shithole little town on weekends and holidays after he gets the fuck out of the place after high school graduation.

That is the Reality here folks. This chick doesn’t belong in prison after she successfully completes her psycho-babble Sex Addiction program. Now that would make a good episode of Orange is the New Black. I wonder if anyone sneaks a vibrator into the Women’s Dorm. With this lady’s bad luck, she will probably only get a contraband giant butt plug.
I’m not really sure I buy any of this. First off, teens have not got fitter, they have become fatter. When I was in high school there may have been one kid that was overweight in a given classroom, now 1/3 are. If growth hormones in food were affecting development, then height should be increasing, and it’s not.

Next, adults trying to have sex with kids and teens is as old as time, it is not a modern phenomenon. It just wasn’t in the news as often, or sensationalized like in the article at the beginning of the thread. Adults are not trying to have sex with teens because teens have become so hot that they can’t resist (there are plenty of “of age” hotties out there to choose from). Adults who have sex with kids and teens do it because it is their kink/ perversion, they get off on the idea, and also younger age people are more easy to manipulate, and have power over.

As others have said above and as I’ve said before in this forum, there is harm done by adults taking advantage of teens and kids. Sure not everyone experiences it, some people can go through a variety of adverse things in life and come through unscathed, and others will be impacted for many years. Again, adults having sex with teens (especially when there is a teacher student relationship) is wrong and is a sign of a fucked up, manipulative, selfish mind who does not care about the person that is impacted.
 
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