Israel at war

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Israel killed more people in Lebanon and Gaza in the last 24 hours than Hamas is accused of, even if you don't count those killed by the IDF by the Hannibal Directive.
You are brainwashed.
You mean the people who managed to send about 3-4k of rockets since last October ?
 
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See above. This article and its writer have no credibility. Its one guy maintaining a website with a few articles. None of the contributors are credentialed. Credentials are important.
 
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You criticized Haaretz, a well known established newspaper for bias. But you are also citing a website that has all but 4 articles on its website, published by 1 guy from Lebanon, called Pierre Akel, who has no background in journalism or geopolitics.
4 articles ?! by one guy ? may be look here: https://middleeasttransparent.com/category/categories-2/magazine-en/


Involvement of KGB in the Middle East and with all possible liberation movements as a tool to work against the West is a known fact.
 

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You just destroyed the chance of anybody taking you seriously by posting that as a source and claiming Haaretz isn't legit.
This is terrorism.

 

GerryB

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You just destroyed the chance of anybody taking you seriously by posting that as a source and claiming Haaretz isn't legit.
This is terrorism.

Who's here taking you seriously ? It's irrelevant what I post here - your opinion will never change
and I bet it was formed before Oct 7. According to you (and I took time to read on you posts from
the past) - Jewish people have no right to self determination, the land of Israel is not their ancestral
land and anything they do is criminal. That pretty much sums up your take.
 
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See above. This article and its writer have no credibility. Its one guy maintaining a website with a few articles. None of the contributors are credentialed. Credentials are important.
 
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Involvement of KGB in the Middle East and with all possible liberation movements as a tool to work against the West is a known fact.
Does not take away from the fact that the Palestinians want it. You could similarly discredit Israeli identity by saying it all started only in the 20th century as a European project. Does not take away from the fact that Israelis want it. These types of reasonings dont reflect the reality of today.
 

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Does not take away from the fact that the Palestinians want it. You could similarly discredit Israeli identity by saying it all started only in the 20th century as a European project. Does not take away from the fact that Israelis want it. These types of reasonings dont reflect the reality of today.
The reality is that Jews want to stay and Palis want them gone from the river to the sea. Hasn’t changed since before 1947 except back then Palis were called Arabs.
 

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The reality is that Jews want to stay and Palis want them gone. Hasn’t changed since before 1947 except then Palis were called Arabs.
Debatable. Israelis ethnically cleansed Israel of Palestinians during the war in 48'. So one party is actually guilty and the other guilty of a thought crime, if true. These speculations will not bring peace.
 
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This is a conspiracy theory.
Nope it’s a fact. Even if it’s inconvenient to you.

in 1969, Yasser Arafat became a chairman of the PLO. Consequently, diplomatic connections with sufficient political reach were instituted. After that, it became clear in the West that Arafat accounted for an essential undercover operative for the KGBfor years to come.[6][7]

By the 1970s, with the loss of Soviet influence in Egypt, the Soviet Union sought better relations with Palestinian militants, and Soviet arms and training were provided to militant groups.

The KGB was responsible for arming and training most of the militant groups. The KGBdecided which groups should receive the money and weapons. By 1972, the Soviets had declared the Palestinian movement the vanguard of the Arab liberation movement.[8] In the summer of 1974, a PLO embassy was opened in Moscow.[9] During this time Yasser Arafat had addressed the United Nations and soon the PLO was granted observer status at the UN in 1974.
 
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Debatable. Israelis ethnically cleansed Israel of Palestinians during the war in 48'. So one party is actually guilty and the other guilty of a thought crime, if true. These speculations will not bring peace.
Was October 7 a thought crime?
 

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Nope it’s a fact. Even if it’s inconvenient to you.

in 1969, Yasser Arafat became a chairman of the PLO. Consequently, diplomatic connections with sufficient political reach were instituted. After that, it became clear in the West that Arafat accounted for an essential undercover operative for the KGBfor years to come.[6][7]

By the 1970s, with the loss of Soviet influence in Egypt, the Soviet Union sought better relations with Palestinian militants, and Soviet arms and training were provided to militant groups.

The KGB was responsible for arming and training most of the militant groups. The KGBdecided which groups should receive the money and weapons. By 1972, the Soviets had declared the Palestinian movement the vanguard of the Arab liberation movement.[8] In the summer of 1974, a PLO embassy was opened in Moscow.[9] During this time Yasser Arafat had addressed the United Nations and soon the PLO was granted observer status at the UN in 1974.
So the KGB gave money and trained these militant groups? They dont seem to have been responsible for the creation of the Palestinian identity as someone else alluded. The identity has existed for a while.
 
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