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mitchell76

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First Hand Account of Hurricane Helene Victim Confirming $750 FEMA Aid Offered To Him IS A LOAN American has been crying for 20 minutes after FEMA visited him, “sorry for the emotions” “There is a FEMA man who came and explained something very serious about the $750 that you guys don't know and that they're not going to tell you. And unless you have a magnifying glass in the contract that they're going to sign during your inspection, you'll never see it. So you're going to hear it from me and hopefully from everybody else who is going to share this shit around. The $750 is a loan. It's not free. They're not giving it to you. It's a loan And if you don't pay back that seven hundred and fifty dollar loan within a year, they're gonna seize your property” “Don't take it. Do not take it. One thing that you're going to notice folks is they're not giving that money to people who have a little bit of money. They're not giving it to people who have jobs. They're giving it to the welfare of people who have nothing, who have absolutely nothing. And they're going to take advantage of these people first.” “It just, just blows my mind”
 

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Dude, you obviously don't know or understand what a coup is, so maybe stop using that word.

But, let's talk CNN: What major story has CNN ignored or downplayed that impacts the Dems? Because I see articles about Emhoff on there.

And, I've already shown you how the right operates. It's an outrage factory that is built to sway folks into hating change, even if its for the better.
A coup is when you force a democratically elected leader to drop out of an election race without a proper election of the new candidate first. So yes, I'll keep using that term in reference to the Dems.

You seriously believe CNN has not downplayed the Emhoff story but also believe that if it was about Trump they would give it the same level of exposure?

The right operates by showing what the left is doing by exposing their hypocrisy and virtue-signaling.
The left operates by trying to show what the right is doing but what they actually do is hide the fact that they do the same or worse.
 
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VIDEO PROOF: FEMA Helicopters Are Blocking Greenville South Carolina Airport Private citizens were flying aid to victims and FEMA came and BLOCKED THE RUNWAY to stop them “We're at the airport today. Yesterday, they ran, like, 30 something planes — And FEMA has flown in, like, 10 or more helicopters and blocked a runway here at Greenville downtown, completely took over or almost took over the operation” “FEMA's gonna come here and try to stop it. And they took over one of the hangars over here too. We'll show you as much as we can. It's absolutely ridiculous. Here's the helicopters that are blocking one of the runways here at Greenville Downtown. (See video) All flown in by FEMA, helicopter pilots. And they're just sitting there doing nothing.” “FEMA came in and halted all that operation. When there's 1,000 of pounds of supplies over there that could be taken, When there's 1,000 of pounds of supplies over there that could be taken, they're just sitting there doing nothing and blocking the runway with however many helicopters.”
 

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Everyone knows that Congress will borrow whatever it takes to fund the recovery efforts. Money is also fungible and it all govt. money essentially comes from the same source unless it's a specific tax or fee to finance a specific govt. activity.

People might not like the rhetoric and it might be stated too emphatically, but the Republicans are highlighting the Administration's efforts to fund migrant resettlement and of course it's contrasted to funding other domestic crises. I'm not sure how it all started but I guess Mayorkas was saying FEMA needed more money. I would guess whether FEMA needs it immediately they will need money next year.

As I posted, the White House Press Secretary stated publicly that FEMA was helping to deal with the migrant crisis. It's very confusing.

You can hate it, but I think this is in the bounds of politics. I've seen far more egregious attempts to twist words and policies of political opponents. Here the White House seemed to be taking credit for FEMA assisting migrants.

By the way, Republicans (perhaps other than Trump) are giving more clarity on the issue. Debating and setting domestic priorities is what democratic governments do and practically spending on one thing takes away from other priorities.
OK, fair point. But the fact remains that money is not being diverted away from helping Americans affected by natural disasters. Also, the scope of this hurricane was massive, and Milton is on its way. So, that's the reason they need more cash.
 
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Hurricane Milton has just now Intensified and formed into a Category 5 Hurricane as it approaches Florida. It has triggered the largest evacuation orders in the state of Florida since 2017. If you’re in an evacuation zone, evacuate now, take your pets with you, and go to the supervisor of elections (SOE) office in your county and request your early ballot on the spot and vote now. You can request it and fill it out and turn it in now on the spot in person. Voting locations, post offices and mail boxes will likely be destroyed in this storm. Don’t let the weather steal your vote.
 

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A coup is when you force a democratically elected leader to drop out of an election race without a proper election of the new candidate first. So yes, I'll keep using that term in reference to the Dems.

You seriously believe CNN has not downplayed the Emhoff story but also believe that if it was about Trump they would give it the same level of exposure?

The right operates by showing what the left is doing by exposing their hypocrisy and virtue-signaling.
The left operates by trying to show what the right is doing but what they actually do is hide the fact that they do the same or worse.
A coup has a requirement for violence. That did not happen. If you look at the chain of events, it makes more sense that Biden realized he wasn't up for running, and he put the country ahead of his own ambitions. He's given full-throated support to Kamala Harris. And, it should be pointed out, that the Democrats did nothing against their rules, and that this wasn't undemocratic, no matter how the right tries to spin and discredit it.

As for CNN, the thing to also keep in mind is that Emhoff is NOT running for office. If it were Walz or Harris herself with these types of allegations, there would be a bigger commotion about it. But, just like Hunter Biden or even Don Jr. they aren't running for anything. So, you are right, if it were Trump, it would be a bigger story....But, please, explain to me why that is wrong? One person could be president, the other would be....well....useless, like Melania or Jill Biden. So, you cannot compare the two, it's like comparing apples to bowling balls...

As for your hypothesis of how the left and right operate....I'll let you believe what ever makes you feel better. But, let's face facts, both sides do a lot of virtue signalling.
 
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A coup has a requirement for violence. That did not happen. If you look at the chain of events, it makes more sense that Biden realized he wasn't up for running, and he put the country ahead of his own ambitions. He's given full-throated support to Kamala Harris. And, it should be pointed out, that the Democrats did nothing against their rules, and that this wasn't undemocratic, no matter how the right tries to spin and discredit it.

As for CNN, the thing to also keep in mind is that Emhoff is NOT running for office. If it were Walz or Harris herself with these types of allegations, there would be a bigger commotion about it. But, just like Hunter Biden or even Don Jr. they aren't running for anything. So, you are right, if it were Trump, it would be a bigger story....But, please, explain to me why that is wrong? One person could be president, the other would be....well....useless, like Melania or Jill Biden. So, you cannot compare the two, it's like comparing apples to bowling balls...

As for your hypothesis of how the left and right operate....I'll let you believe what ever makes you feel better. But, let's face facts, both sides do a lot of virtue signalling.
"Biden realized"? Didn't he keep saying "my job's not done...I have a lot of important work to do..."...then he magically comes back after the debate to say he's "stepping aside"?
Dictionary.com definition of "coup": a highly successful, unexpected stroke, act, or move; a clever action or accomplishment.

Emhoff is married to the person the Dems have "chosen" to be their leader and potentially the next POTUS (first woman POTUS). You don't think that their spouse being accused of assault against a woman is significant here?
 
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