Vance/Walz debate!!

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C'mon, Squee. Skoob and his little brother had a spat last night and Mom told Skoob that he could have the top bunk in the basement boys' bedroom for all this coming week to make peace between them.
Did you know Rod is his brother?? Two peas in a pod.

If I'm not mistaken, Ory maybe their uncle.
 
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OH NO, Mitchy, I don't feel like getting the vomit suit out this morning and I ran out of product to sell. Come on man, no vomiting today.
On the contrary, Mitch is already out and about and doing his shopping!!

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My point, that I provided info to back up, is that there are more leftwing biased MSM outlets than right wing.
So that means they have a greater share of influence.
If you have 75% of people peddling a biased narrative compared to 25% for example, that has more impact and sway.
As mentioned, MSM (left or right leaning) are vastly different from the most popular conservative news sources for several reasons. Fox is the ratings giant. They could certainly be classified as MSM, though they prefer to pretend they are not. However, they are a massive disinformation source. You don't see the NYT or CNN lie about things like Dominion of Smartmatic, and saying they helped steal an election....especially when they new there was no evidence of it. The NYT or CNN does not turn a blind eye to negative stories about the left, Biden or Harris. We constantly see Fox either ignoring harmful stories about Trump, downplaying them or providing spin.

That list also doesn't take into account things like the podcast/YouTube channels, where the most popular ones are firmly right-wing. Things like Joe Rogan, Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Dan Bogonio....they are not know for their factual discussions. And of course there are a ton of popular "influencers" that parrot these right-wing talking points.

And finally, as I mentioned, the right has dragged left media farther right, where what was once centre is now considered left.

So, while it might appear that there are more slightly left MSM outlets, the audience they reach seems to pale in comparison to the right-wing echo chamber that is perfectly fine of not covering negative stories that harm their political goals. Fuck, even MSNBC slammed Biden after the June debate. You rarely see Fox or NewsMax or even the NY Post do that about Trump.
 
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FEMA spending dollars on migrant relief has the potential to grow as a story while the U.S. digs out of this terrible natural disaster. It's possible that this could have a significant impact on the election. Regardless of how the Biden Administration explains moving $$$ around from one pocket to another, it won't sit well with many voters. The optics are horrible.

Interestingly, this story looks to be dovetailing the media debate currently going on between @Skoob and @silentkisser .
I noticed the liberal media is in full blown damage control on this story. Now it might be nothing and easily explained away. The liberal media reaction suggests that won't be easy.

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It's sad that so many people who seem intelligent fall for disinformation, espeically during a crisis.


FEMA has not put money towards helping migrants at the expense of hurricane survivors. In fact, the GOP voted against a bill on Friday that was to increase support to those affected areas. FEMA's money is specifically there to help with natural disasters, and they cannot (and have not) moved that cash to pay for other things.
 

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That's not "My TV Stand". You are very gullible if you believe that it is the case!!
So not sure what you are ranting and raving about.......but then you must have all that stuff in your bedroom, and that is why you are familiar with it........ROTFLMAO!!
You seem a bit defensive...I'll give you some time to tidy up so the next photo you take won't have questionable items in it.
 
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As mentioned, MSM (left or right leaning) are vastly different from the most popular conservative news sources for several reasons. Fox is the ratings giant. They could certainly be classified as MSM, though they prefer to pretend they are not. However, they are a massive disinformation source. You don't see the NYT or CNN lie about things like Dominion of Smartmatic, and saying they helped steal an election....especially when they new there was no evidence of it. The NYT or CNN does not turn a blind eye to negative stories about the left, Biden or Harris. We constantly see Fox either ignoring harmful stories about Trump, downplaying them or providing spin.

That list also doesn't take into account things like the podcast/YouTube channels, where the most popular ones are firmly right-wing. Things like Joe Rogan, Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Dan Bogonio....they are not know for their factual discussions. And of course there are a ton of popular "influencers" that parrot these right-wing talking points.

And finally, as I mentioned, the right has dragged left media farther right, where what was once centre is now considered left.

So, while it might appear that there are more slightly left MSM outlets, the audience they reach seems to pale in comparison to the right-wing echo chamber that is perfectly fine of not covering negative stories that harm their political goals. Fuck, even MSNBC slammed Biden after the June debate. You rarely see Fox or NewsMax or even the NY Post do that about Trump.
Well I showed you which MSM outlets are left wing and you seem to have ignored that and pivoted to Fox and niche podcasts. Have you factored in like talk shows on major networks that are over-the-top left wing and see the size of those audiences?
You seriously think CNN doesn't mislead people by omitting stories or downplaying them?

btw CNN and most left wing MSM outlets are doing a fine job burying the Emhoff assault allegations...if that was about Trump, it would be on a constant stream.
Sometimes you don't have to lie to sway public opinion...you just have to stay quiet...like they're doing.
Just like the Dems stayed quiet about Biden's mental state for years until they couldn't any longer...then they staged a coup and replaced him.

That's how the left operates.
 
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FEMA has not put money towards helping migrants at the expense of hurricane survivors. In fact, the GOP voted against a bill on Friday that was to increase support to those affected areas. FEMA's money is specifically there to help with natural disasters, and they cannot (and have not) moved that cash to pay for other things.
Agree with your point that I have highlighted in bold. If there is confusion around FEMA's role in funding migrant issues, the Administration has been unclear in the past.

"FEMA Regional Administrators have been meeting with city officials on site to coordinate – to coordinate available federal support from FEMA and other federal agencies," Jean-Pierre told reporters at a Sept. 16, 2022, press conference.

"Funding is also available through FEMA’s Emergency Food and Shelter program to eligible local governments and not-for-profit organizations upon request to support humanitarian relief for migrants," she added.
 

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Well I showed you which MSM outlets are left wing and you seem to have ignored that and pivoted to Fox and niche podcasts. Have you factored in like talk shows on major networks that are over-the-top left wing and see the size of those audiences?
You seriously think CNN doesn't mislead people by omitting stories or downplaying them?

btw CNN and most left wing MSM outlets are doing a fine job burying the Emhoff assault allegations...if that was about Trump, it would be on a constant stream.
Sometimes you don't have to lie to sway public opinion...you just have to stay quiet...like they're doing.
Just like the Dems stayed quiet about Biden's mental state for years until they couldn't any longer...then they staged a coup and replaced him.

That's how the left operates.
Dude, you obviously don't know or understand what a coup is, so maybe stop using that word.

But, let's talk CNN: What major story has CNN ignored or downplayed that impacts the Dems? Because I see articles about Emhoff on there.

And, I've already shown you how the right operates. It's an outrage factory that is built to sway folks into hating change, even if its for the better.
 

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Agree with your point that I have highlighted in bold. If there is confusion around FEMA's role in funding migrant issues, the Administration has been unclear in the past.

"FEMA Regional Administrators have been meeting with city officials on site to coordinate – to coordinate available federal support from FEMA and other federal agencies," Jean-Pierre told reporters at a Sept. 16, 2022, press conference.

"Funding is also available through FEMA’s Emergency Food and Shelter program to eligible local governments and not-for-profit organizations upon request to support humanitarian relief for migrants," she added.
Sorry, to clarify what I mean: FEMA has a budget for difference things. One is natural disasters. That is a big chunk of money. And, it is going to the areas hit by the hurricane. It has not been misallocated to cover migrants or what not, which is the big lie the right is pushing right now.
 

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The the GREAT people of North Carolina are being stood up by Harris and Biden, who are giving almost all of the FEMA money to Illegal Migrants in what is now considered to be the WORST rescue operation in the history of the U.S. On top of that, Billions of Dollars is going to foreign countries! NORTH CAROLINA HAS BEEN VIRTUALLY ABANDONED BY KAMALA!!! DROP HER LIKE SHE DROPPED YOU - VOTE FOR PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP. MAGA2024! Donald Trump Truth Social 02:44 AM EST 10/07/24
 

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Sorry, to clarify what I mean: FEMA has a budget for difference things. One is natural disasters. That is a big chunk of money. And, it is going to the areas hit by the hurricane. It has not been misallocated to cover migrants or what not, which is the big lie the right is pushing right now.
Everyone knows that Congress will borrow whatever it takes to fund the recovery efforts. Money is also fungible and it all govt. money essentially comes from the same source unless it's a specific tax or fee to finance a specific govt. activity.

People might not like the rhetoric and it might be stated too emphatically, but the Republicans are highlighting the Administration's efforts to fund migrant resettlement and of course it's contrasted to funding other domestic crises. I'm not sure how it all started but I guess Mayorkas was saying FEMA needed more money. I would guess whether FEMA needs it immediately they will need money next year.

As I posted, the White House Press Secretary stated publicly that FEMA was helping to deal with the migrant crisis. It's very confusing.

You can hate it, but I think this is in the bounds of politics. I've seen far more egregious attempts to twist words and policies of political opponents. Here the White House seemed to be taking credit for FEMA assisting migrants.

By the way, Republicans (perhaps other than Trump) are giving more clarity on the issue. Debating and setting domestic priorities is what democratic governments do and practically spending on one thing takes away from other priorities.
 
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