Vance lies about Trump "Peacefully Gave Over Power on January 20th"..........LOL!!
Vance/Walz debate!!
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He nails it at the end...Vance needed to acknowledge that Trump lost the election...This is not the question to deflect.
JD VANCE: “We don't have a President we can actually trust. I don't even know who the President of the United States is. For 3.5 years, America has been saddled with a President of the United States who can't do the job. Kamala Harris LIED and said he was up to the job."
I guess it can turn out to be a pretty good gig if your party lies about and hides the condition of the party's nominee.
Vance drove home the point that both Trump and Harris are running against their records. Walz did a good job. Some time this year, Democrats figured out that they couldn't run on the economy. Oh jeez, how many here were trying to gaslight us about the economy repeating useless bullet points plucked from liberal media.
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Harris is the VP, she doesn't make the final decision. Do you think if Trump is elected JD will make decisions? What decisions did Pence make besides finally growing a pair and telling Trump to get lost when asked to attempt to steal an election?
Agreed and I do believe Vance did a good job in improving his image and showing he is not just a bombastic lying POS, he just lies in a more gentlemanly fashion with chameleon personality traits.
Stats don't lie, only folks who push misinformation do and twat waffles who buy into the misinformation hook line and sinker. How to avoid being a twat waffle, avoid consuming misinformation sweeteners. Don't get your knickers in a twist Wyat, I am not calling you a twat waffle but just to make sure, avoid being near one of these.
Biden’s vs. Trump’s economy, in 8 charts
The gaps between perception of the economy and the reality, explained.
The Republicans should have never allowed Margaret Brennan to step on that stage and moderate. When ever I have seen her on Face the Nation or on a CBS panel she is trying to roast the Republicans.
Margaret's first I'm going to step on your point Vance moment was this.
Thank you, Governor. And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status. Temporary protected status. Norah.
This was not actually a fact check at that moment. This was making a point for Tim Walz. Incidentally, fact checks were against the rules established for this debate.
Brennan tried very hard to stifle Vance from responding, but he was persistent. Vance finally was allowed to make the point about how easy it is under Biden/Harris to be granted asylum. The Administration has a lot of discretion.
Margaret's first I'm going to step on your point Vance moment was this.
Thank you, Governor. And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status. Temporary protected status. Norah.
This was not actually a fact check at that moment. This was making a point for Tim Walz. Incidentally, fact checks were against the rules established for this debate.
Brennan tried very hard to stifle Vance from responding, but he was persistent. Vance finally was allowed to make the point about how easy it is under Biden/Harris to be granted asylum. The Administration has a lot of discretion.
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Kamala Harris as Vice President casted the deciding vote on much of President Biden's signature legislation. So you can say she made a big impact on the final decision. Most Vice Presidents never have this power in the Senate.
I could go on about how the only reason, the absolute only reason she is the Democratic nominee is by virtue of President Biden, but you don't care because it doesn't fit the narrative.
PS- I can think of a situation in Montana where Democratic Senator is in a fight for his political life. Even though he voted for all of it, he is trying to disavow support for parts of the Biden agenda. He won't even endorse Harris. Sometimes even in the U.S. you go down with the party. It's not at all unfair.
If Trudeau steps down and Freelander or some other minister is on the top of the ticket, do you really think Canadians would allow them to just walk away from Trudeau's record? You're simply ignoring how party politics works.
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I almost chuckled when you posted an article about how great the economy was. This after I essentially warned members of simply repeating media gaslighting. And c'mon, you must know Vox is progressive horseshit. Oh, but they have charts!! If it's music to your ears, put something on the turntable that pushes your listening habits once in awhile. I might listen to the Stones and right after switch to Mozart.Stats don't lie, only folks who push misinformation do and twat waffles who buy into the misinformation hook line and sinker. How to avoid being a twat waffle, avoid consuming misinformation sweeteners. Don't get your knickers in a twist Wyat, I am not calling you a twat waffle but just to make sure, avoid being near one of these.
Biden’s vs. Trump’s economy, in 8 charts
The gaps between perception of the economy and the reality, explained.www.vox.com
To paraphrase Curly Washburn, there is just one thing, one thing that makes the economy a difficult issue for the Democrats. You stick to that and everything else don't mean shit.
It's inflation adjusted wages. If you notice the Federal Reserve chart linked below (oh, I got charts too), you will see inflation adjusted wages are merely back to March 2020 levels. See squeeze, me and many of my friends got stocks and real estate and they all went up a lot the last four years. Most Americans do not benefit from asset inflation.
Employed full time: Median usual weekly real earnings: Wage and salary workers: 16 years and over
Graph and download economic data for Employed full time: Median usual weekly real earnings: Wage and salary workers: 16 years and over (LES1252881600Q) from Q1 1979 to Q3 2024 about full-time, salaries, workers, earnings, 16 years +, wages, median, real, employment, and USA.
fred.stlouisfed.org
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So in other words she followed her boss's orders/wishes and voted. Imagine had she voted against Biden and the party to please the Republicans. Hmmmm, do you know of any VP who has ever had to do that besides Pence on Jan. 6th.?
Yes, he is the out going Prez and wishes his successor to be Kamala his VP, is there anything wrong with that? Why hasn't Trump gone with his former VP and why did he want the crowd to hang his former VP?
Useless irrelevant point, NEXT
A little different because Ms. Freeland has more say than a Presidential VP. The power of the VP only comes to bear if the Prez is incapacitated and you know this.
Believe it or not, me and my friends own quite a bit of stock and doing very well over the last four years. My portfolio is 70% US stock but hey that is not important. You seem to forget inflation is worldwide and NOT caused by Biden. If you are going to blame Biden for Inflation then you must assess Trump with all the job losses in the final year of his term. You cannot suck and blow at the same time. The same as the Pee Pee sycophants blame Justin for Inflation here but hey, some just want to fit their a square into a circle to fit their narrative.I almost chuckled when you posted an article about how great the economy was. This after I essentially warned members of simply repeating media gaslighting. And c'mon, you must know Vox is progressive horseshit. Oh, but they have charts!! If it's music to your ears, put something on the turntable that pushes your listening habits once in awhile. I might listen to the Stones and right after switch to Mozart.
To paraphrase Curly Washburn, there is just one thing, one thing that makes the economy a difficult issue for the Democrats. You stick to that and everything else don't mean shit.
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It's inflation adjusted wages. If you notice the Federal Reserve chart linked below (oh, I got charts too), you will see inflation adjusted wages are merely back to March 2020 levels. See squeeze, me and many of my friends got stocks and real estate and they all went up a lot the last four years. Most Americans do not benefit from asset inflation.
Employed full time: Median usual weekly real earnings: Wage and salary workers: 16 years and over
Graph and download economic data for Employed full time: Median usual weekly real earnings: Wage and salary workers: 16 years and over (LES1252881600Q) from Q1 1979 to Q3 2024 about full-time, salaries, workers, earnings, 16 years +, wages, median, real, employment, and USA.fred.stlouisfed.org
