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Hassan Nasrallah, Hezbollah leader, killed in Beirut in Israeli strike

richaceg

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Why would you back a group that is now as bad as nazis?
Are you any different than bucksnot?

I'm backing a group that has been fighting for their survival since their conception...palestinians and israelis are victims of the extremists...terrorists...the guys you back...you defend hamas, hezbollah and Iran...these 3 entities aren't victims...they are oppressors of civilians...
 
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WIll Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad vow to never attack Israel and achieve peace in the area? No...the main goal is to cleanse the earth of jews....
You defend genocide because you think, like bucksnort, that Muslims and Arabs are genocidal maniacs?
Why not start from the basics.
Why not back international law instead of violence based on racism and tribalism.

Israel needs to end the occupation of Palestine, the 76 year long illegal occupation that created Hamas and Hezbollah as resistance to the illegal occupation.

 
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I'm backing a group that has been fighting for their survival since their conception...palestinians and israelis are victims of the extremists...terrorists...the guys you back...you defend hamas, hezbollah and Iran...these 3 entities aren't victims...they are oppressors of civilians...
Palestinians are the indigenous people resisting the illegal occupation of their land by a foreign colonial movement started by terrorists.
Palestinians have the law on their side.

 

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You defend genocide because you think, like bucksnort, that Muslims and Arabs are genocidal maniacs?
Why not start from the basics.
Why not back international law instead of violence based on racism and tribalism.

Israel needs to end the occupation of Palestine, the 76 year long illegal occupation that created Hamas and Hezbollah as resistance to the illegal occupation.

Your gaslighting doesn't work on me Franky...you think anybody defending Israel thinks "muslims and arabs are genocidal maniacs"...only a racist fuck like you can even come up with these theories. Palestinians are victims of Hamas, lebanese civilians are victims of Hezbollah...yet you don't care...it's not the jews involved in there...
 

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Your gaslighting doesn't work on me Franky...you think anybody defending Israel thinks "muslims and arabs are genocidal maniacs"...only a racist fuck like you can even come up with these theories. Palestinians are victims of Hamas, lebanese civilians are victims of Hezbollah...yet you don't care...it's not the jews involved in there...
You just did.

I'm backing a group that has been fighting for their survival since their conception...palestinians and israelis are victims of the extremists...terrorists...the guys you back...you defend hamas, hezbollah and Iran...these 3 entities aren't victims...they are oppressors of civilians...
Israel targets civilians.
That's terrorism.

 

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You can't prove it...I can prove you support Hamas and Hezbollah.
I support Palestinians and human rights.
You back racial supremacists stealing Palestine and committing apartheid and genocide to maintain control.

palestinians and israelis are victims of the extremists...terrorists...the guys you back...you defend hamas, hezbollah and Iran...these 3 entities aren't victims...they are oppressors of civilians...
Israel has been occupying Palestine for 76 years.
They are not the victims.

You cannot claim moral high ground while backing this.
 
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I support Palestinians and human rights.
You back racial supremacists stealing Palestine and committing apartheid and genocide to maintain control.



Israel has been occupying Palestine for 76 years.
They are not the victims.

You cannot claim moral high ground while backing this.
Wrong. You have repeated time and again, Hamas actions are justified. Hezbollah actions are justified....no mention of palestinians...you even go the extra mile and blame the ravers for getting killed attending a party...
 
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Wrong. You have repeated time and again, Hamas actions are justified. Hezbollah actions are justified....no mention of palestinians...you even go the extra mile and blame the ravers for getting killed attending a party...
Over and over again you deny Palestinians are humans with full human rights.
You deny that they have the right to self defence against the occupation by foreign colonialists that the UN and ICJ has ruled to be illegal.

You support killing civilians because of their race.
You are everything you claim Hamas is but worse.

 
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Over and over again you deny Palestinians are humans with full human rights.
You deny that they have the right to self defence against the occupation by foreign colonialists that the UN and ICJ has ruled to be illegal.

You support killing civilians because of their race.
You are everything you claim Hamas is but worse.

I never denied Palestinians as humans with full human rights...the only difference here is you blame Israel, I blame Hamas...I back a democratic state that houses Arabs, Muslims, Christians and Jews. You back terrorists who slaughter innocent civilians...
 

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I never denied Palestinians as humans with full human rights...the only difference here is you blame Israel, I blame Hamas...I back a democratic state that houses Arabs, Muslims, Christians and Jews. You back terrorists who slaughter innocent civilians...
Do Palestinians have the right to resist the illegal occupation of Palestine with force?

 

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Do Palestinians have the right to resist the illegal occupation of Palestine with force?

Does israel have the right to defend itself from aggression from neighboring countries? Who's fault is it arabs were displaced from their lands? There was no illegal occupation of Palestine...there was no Palestine....and there still isn't...but keep dreaming.
 

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Israel is not democratic. Democracies don’t rule millions of people without their consent for 75 years. Democracies don’t ethnically cleanse close to a million people because they are the wrong religion in order to create an ethno state. Democracies are by definition states for all their citizens - Israel has legislated that it is only a state for Jewish people. Israel has a series of laws that afford additional rights to Jews.
Some of this is true. However, you and a few others are waging an asymmetric propaganda war on social media.

Isn't it true those living under Hamas live under harsh civil and moral codes while propagating intolerance of many groups? Most of us do not see this melding with Western values. We don't necessarily favor all of Israel's actions the past fifty years, but we deem it to be a place that freedoms are more likely to flourish. So Israel is the "ethno state" we all should abhor? Cultural relativism has been dying in Western thought for some time now.

You have defined some of your argument around religion. I don't look at the religion. I look at the civility and the tolerance of a population. The Arab population in Israel makes up over 20% of the population. That is a sizeable minority that can bear influence on elections. (Oh yeah, elections. That inconvenient matter that the West clutches so fondly.)

I snatched this quote from a NY Post editorial: The Palestinian people are the prime victims of that propaganda, weaponized and infantilized by it, deceived into thinking that Israel’s success is the cause of all their problems. I think it aptly describes the ever-ending violence that Palestinians are trapped in.

In order for you to make better arguments on behalf of Palestinians, you need to be able to discuss the failings in their culture and leadership instead of your laser focus on Israel.
 
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Some of this is true. However, you and a few others are waging an asymmetric propaganda war on social media.

Isn't it true those living under Hamas enforces harsh civil and moral codes while propagating intolerance of many groups? Most of us do not see this melding with Western values. We don't necessarily favor all of Israel's actions the past fifty years, but we deem it to be a place that freedoms are more likely to flourish. So Israel is the "ethno state" we all should abhor? Cultural relativism has been dying in Western thought for some time now.

You have defined some of your argument around religion. I don't look at the religion. I look at the civility and the tolerance of a population. The Arab population in Israel makes up over 20% of the population. That is a sizeable minority that can bear influence on elections. (Oh yeah, elections. That inconvenient matter that the West clutches so fondly.)

I snatched this quote from a NY Post editorial: The Palestinian people are the prime victims of that propaganda, weaponized and infantilized by it, deceived into thinking that Israel’s success is the cause of all their problems. I think it aptly describes the ever-ending violence that Palestinians are trapped in.

In order for you to make better arguments on behalf of Palestinians, you need to be able to discuss the failings in their culture and leadership instead of your laser focus on Israel.
These idiots are trapped at "Israel has inforced "illegal occupation" in Palestine. they can't seem to blame anybody else on the displacement of palestinian arabs in the area other than Israel....the displacement caused by war, war Israel didn't start. If their leaders (Hamas) with all the funding they get from UN focused on making Gaza and West bank better instead of building tunnels and focus on attacking Israel...we won't even be here..
 
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