I joined Medcan for dedicated care team 2 months ago. They still have not got my medical records. The doctor who is assigned to me I met . and he is just family physician and met him one. I am mostly dealing with nurses . After I spend 3 days hospital with bowel blockage i made a call . Of course the doctor is not available . Since I paid 4k+ upfront . I told them that i am going my back to my Family Physician. Be wary of all these private clinic. Read the google reviews of these clinics and make a proper judgement. Medcan has been around for decades but now they have set up so many programs that for each you have to pay extra. They can not jump queue of OHIP except few specialist that i have.
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New Ontario since the province is the administrator... I guess we should thank Dofo.Welcome to New Canada.
That scenario sounds very predictable.
They always advertise that our safety or satisfaction or whatever is their number one priority, which is BS. It they're not making a profit, they close up shop.
They'll be looking out for #1 first and foremost. That is every single for profit business in every single industry.
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I used to be a Medcan client for years... about 15 years ago I quit because of the same issues you are experiencing. Was a waste of money. Tried Cleveland Clinic for a year and didn't see the value although the service was better.
You are right, we should nationalize everything. It's a great idea with the best of intentions what can possibly go wrong.
There is some nuance there, the problem is usually not profit bad but some other thing.
I refer you to
The Efficient Society - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
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From wiki;You are right, we should nationalize everything. It's a great idea with the best of intentions what can possibly go wrong.
There is some nuance there, the problem is usually not profit bad but some other thing.
I refer you to
The Efficient Society - Wikipedia
"He argues that Canada's successes as a nation are largely attributable to its commitment to efficiency as a value. "
hahahahahahaha, that's funny. So old timey.
Fuck, that was a LONG LONG time ago. A Harper time ago even. Now?
Opinion: How not to run a country: Government ineptitude and Canada’s economic malaise
Canada’s economic problems stem from a government that fails in basic operation capabilities, lacks the ability to think and is devoid of strategic leadership
www.theglobeandmail.com
Neil Sharma: Liberals' big government has left Canadians struggling for the basics
Taxpayers have to support a bloated civil service — even as they struggle with debt, inflation and poor wages
nationalpost.com
And here, I thought that I was only talking about healthcare. Our health is the absolute most important thing we have. It cannot be left in the hands of capitalists. I'd also support a system whereby our government provides a national plan and if somebody wants to totally opt out and pay out of pocket or insurance for private care, they can. Healthcare cannot be talked about like any other business/industry. AFAIK, the US has the highest healthcare cost in the world and there are very many countries that have significantly higher average life spans than Americans.
BTW, the way you took my comment about healthcare and extrapolated it to "everything" sounds a lot like what Geno/frank would do. He always makes these kinds of intentional misinterpretations of what was said, which is a reason we both hate him. Please don't be like him on a topic like this.
All true I suppose but Canada ranks just below the US on spending and ranks just above the US on the quality of health care delivered according to multiple OECD Health Care comparisons over the years. Canadian's fears about running their health care similar to how they do in other OECD countries, such as those in Europe, is holding us back from doing better.
In addition, I find it hilarious that people ignore our demographics when they say [insert convenient name here] is ruining healthcare. No. It's being swamped by fucking old people with complex physical and mental needs that no amount of spending will fix. Once again, old fuckers are absolutely screwing over the younger generations.
generationscrewed.ca
Next for Canada & Trudeau. The Canada Sex Care Act. We should make it illegal to pay privately for sex. You can only have sex at government approved sex facilities. These facilities will only pay sex providers $20 per visit. This is the current state of our healthcare and the reason why no doctor wants to see a patient.
I believe that the single most important parameter is life span, unless you think that the genetics of Canadians is different than the genetics of Americans. People get sick and our healthcare system is tasked with keeping them alive, either preventively or therapeutically.
Males on the left. Females on the right. That is not an insignificant difference.
| Canada | 80 | 84 |
| USA | 73 | 79 |
OP complains about service from private healthcare provider. Replies criticize government. 
Private health care is in the business of making profit.
Ha, you beat me to that post!OP complains about service from private healthcare provider. Replies criticize government.
Possibly but there are of course many many factors. Comparing us to the the VERY clear 1st world outlier in terms of life span is NOT a good comparison though and just continues our myopia of not considering something different or varied from the Single Payer system. You want to compare to your equals, or betters, not your lessors.
This sort of thinking - slumming if you will - makes us feel good when really, the important question is how do we compare to the UK, AUS, NZ (culturally similar countries) as well as Germany & France. IIRC correctly, none of these countries use Canada's Single Payer Health Care model.
In addition, this is due less to the Health Care system and more to do with more important factors including, most importantly obesity. Other factors that (lack data but pretty sure I'm right) smoking rates, levels of poverty, opioid overdoses (this is big for white males), and suicides.
Given Canada is poorer than Alabama, I don't think economics play into this.
Good explainer.
Why is life expectancy in the US lower than in other rich countries?
Americans have a lower life expectancy than people in other rich countries despite paying much more for healthcare. What factors may explain this?
ourworldindata.org
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Agreed, but there are many, many factors when comparing the assessment of every parameter and it matters not if it is 1st, 2nd or 3rd world. I maintain that the most important parameter is length of life. After all, isn't that the bottom line? Health care is supposed to help us live longer.
I believe the lessers are the more important comparison. They are the ones that suffer more in a private care system, while they still get very good treatment from the single payer/government system.
There's a major shortage of physicians. The Trudeau government has either forced them out of the country or incentivized earlier than expected retirement. Your best option is out of country care. My dad dealt with bowel blockages in his last few years of life it was brutal. So I feel for you.
But your argumentation is used for all sorts of things in the real world, listen to Jerkmeat Singh, and really why not apply it to everything else, if profit is so evil. Food, housing, beer etc.
Also the American health care system is far from capitalist even the private market section.
I did point out exceptions but "leaving things in the hands of capitalists" isn't the argument. You should read the book I referenced, Canadian author, UoT professor [philosophy not psych]
I never said YOU were doing this, just saying if we take your argument and applied it to it's logical conclusion, speaking of intentional misinterpretations. It says so in Lancet.
