Not the point.
Even if you are only doing this so you can drive you should be supporting bus and bikes as a way to get other cars off the roads.
If you kill any biking or transit it means more traffic.
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Even if you are only doing this so you can drive you should be supporting bus and bikes as a way to get other cars off the roads.
If you kill any biking or transit it means more traffic.
You are clueless.he doesn't work so he wouldn't know
also very few people actually commute to work on a bicycle
if you can bike to your work then you can walk there instead
if it very far you will be sweaty, wet or cold by the time you get to work
Biking across downtown is the fastest way, the only way you will know how long it will take.
You can bring a change of clothes if you need to, no big deal.
yes to more transit
no to bike lanes, they only serve very few and create huge traffic for the majority
yes, it is a big deal for most
and I need a shower after a bike ride too
so bring my own shower too?
You must be pretty out of shape.
Biking would fix that.
I'm sure that you are in much better shape than me
but when do you have time to ride your bike?
you are here 24/7
first get a job
then ride your bicycle to work in the summer 30 C without sweating
and then we can talk
Many of Toronto's major streets are too narrow for bike lanes.
Having bike lanes on arteries of the most trafficked streets in the entire country, and reducing those streets to single lanes is crazy.
Toronto is more spread out than European cities where biking are a way of life.
Many more subways and above ground railways (that don't interfere with cars/roads) are needed.
If people can get to any location using the subway, they'd use it. Fighting through traffic is not fun but there's no other option for many that live in and around the city.
But we know that takes decades and billions of dollars so nobody on this board will be alive when it happens.
Having bike lanes on arteries of the most trafficked streets in the entire country, and reducing those streets to single lanes is crazy.
Toronto is more spread out than European cities where biking are a way of life.
Many more subways and above ground railways (that don't interfere with cars/roads) are needed.
If people can get to any location using the subway, they'd use it. Fighting through traffic is not fun but there's no other option for many that live in and around the city.
But we know that takes decades and billions of dollars so nobody on this board will be alive when it happens.
The studies say that bike lanes on bloor added about 45 seconds to a drive across town.
Its not bikes slowing commutes.
Its cars.
are you joking, 45 seconds?
bloor st is a parking lot now
what took me 10 minutes before, takes about 30 minutes now
Gotta love Frankie!!
Next time Hamas goes to gang rape and murder Israeli girls, Frank will insist they take transit there and back!!
Public transportation should be underground and in areas that have room for LRTs. Removing car lanes for bike lanes is pointless in our winter climate. Busses would still be stuck in traffic and spewing off emissions when idling.
LISTEN TO RESIDENTS: REMOVE BIKE LANES ON BLOOR STREET - Christine Hogarth, MPP
Let there be no doubt that I share your view about the unsuitability of bike […]
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LISTEN TO RESIDENTS: REMOVE BIKE LANES ON BLOOR STREET
Let there be no doubt that I share your view about the unsuitability of bike lanes on Bloor Street, and your concerns about the possibility of new ones being added to other arterial roads.
Christine Hogarth
MPP, Etobicoke-Lakeshore
Effective and inclusive transportation is critical to people’s quality of life.
Over the past few months, bike lanes on Bloor Street have emerged as one of the most significant concerns among the residents in Etobicoke-Lakeshore.
Many in the community have brought their frustrations to my attention. I understand that most of you are not opposed to bike lanes outright but are opposed to the traffic congestion they create.
Road access is a precious resource that impacts public safety, local businesses, work and family time. Its allocation must be responsive to local needs. Whether you choose to drive, cycle, or walk, you have a right to move around in manner that is quick, convenient, affordable, and safe.
The City has noted that motor vehicle travel times are up since the implantation of bike lanes on Bloor Street. Statistics aside, for me, what’s concerning is the sense of unease in the community. “Someone is going to die because of these bike lanes” – that’s what a resident wrote to me. As a community leader, it is my duty to listen to this resident, and many like him who are speaking up against bike lanes on Bloor.
Let there be no doubt that I share your view about the unsuitability of bike lanes on Bloor Street, and your concerns about the possibility of new ones being added to other arterial roads. There is a place for bike lanes, but arterial roads are not those places.
Just like urban planners, policy makers, environmentalists, and traffic engineers, the community needs to have a say in what works for them. I have been listening to your concerns, and here’s what I have heard:
1. Increased Traffic Congestion: Many residents have voiced their frustrations. One among them noted: “Bloor Street has become a parking lot. It’s a gridlock all day long from Bloor Village West to Kipling. No one ever asked us, the taxpayers!”
A mother said: “I cannot get 3 kids to High Park for soccer practice during rush hour on a bike. My alternative is to choose a program that does not require me to drive along Bloor Street.”
2. Impact on Business: Shoppers and businesses alike have voiced significant inconvenience. “The bike lanes have discouraged me from shopping at the local stores on Bloor,” said a resident from Islington; and he’s not the only one. Another said: “Businesses are being affected… customers cannot get to them. Delivery trucks can’t get to them.”
3. Safety Concerns: Reports from residents also indicate near-misses and close calls. “Impatient drivers (are) making U-turns, taking short cuts through neighbourhood streets, blocking flow of traffic,” shared one resident. Another pointed out: “The drive has become far dangerous for drivers and pedestrians alike. It is very hard at certain intersections to make right turns further delaying traffic.”
4. Underutilization: Many have observed that bike lanes are often underused. A resident on Saybrook Ave, mentioned, “My doctors office is on Bloor Street and it used to take me 10 minutes to get there. Now (it) takes half an hour with no bikes in sight.”
5. Delaying Emergency Vehicles: There are concerning stories I have heard about bike lanes delaying firetrucks, ambulances, police vehicles. A resident wrote: “I saw a firetruck on an emergency run on Bloor and it had to wait for the cars to clear once the traffic lights changed. There was no manoeuvre room to get out of the firetruck’s way. Someone is going to die because of these bike lanes.”
Another shared: “The other day I sat on the Old Mill Bridge in a gridlock, bumper to bumper, and watched an ambulance try to drive through but of course cars could not move or pull over because there are white metal stacks dividing the unused bike lanes and the road. Such chaos!”
As a senior resident noted, Bloor needs “EMS more than it needs bike lanes”.
These stories are everyday reality for people driving on Bloor Street. I second these voices, and call for a rethink, starting with:
- Removal of bike lanes on Bloor Street
- Confining bike lanes to secondary arterials
- Moratorium on new bike lane installations
- Installing bike lanes where community supports them
- A balanced and objective analysis of all bike lanes
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