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CTV caught altering video - issues public apology

dvous11

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Would love to learn the behind the scenes truth. Were the anonymous journalists acting alone? Were they thrown under the bus as scapegoats?
Will they claim wrongful dismissal and launch legal action?
I find it difficult to believe they acted alone and of course the content needs to pass editorial management.
 

roddermac

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Would love to learn the behind the scenes truth. Were the anonymous journalists acting alone? Were they thrown under the bus as scapegoats?
Will they claim wrongful dismissal and launch legal action?
I find it difficult to believe they acted alone and of course the content needs to pass editorial management.
The messengers are always scapegoats paid or not.
 

Anbarandy

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NBC does the same to Trump. Like when he said protest peacefully yet they edit that part out.
I know, I know.

And this one time at MAGA camp when Trump said:

"Hang Mike Pence as beautifully, elegantly and exquisitely the likes of which the world has never seen before."

Lame stream dinosaur media, "with all their dog-faced female cankers I wouldn't pussy grab ... Orban calls me the greatest president in history" edited out all the "beautifully, elegantly and exquisitely" adjectives.

Why doesn't "radical left-wing democrat" lame stream dinosaur media talk about that, huh?
 

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There’s no reason to believe CTV conspired against Pierre Poilievre. Here’s what the network actually did wrong: Peter Menzies in the Toronto Star
In journalism, as in life, assumptions are the mother of all screw ups.


Of course the rightie media will blow it all out of proportion!!
 

wigglee

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The question is how often do they do this? The media is completely untrustworthy at this point. Sadly we still have sheep that will believe what ever they say despite being caught red handed blatantly lying.
you mean like the sheep that still believe Fox News even after they paid $750 million in fines for false news and testified that they were just "entertainment"?
 

jimidean2011

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you mean like the sheep that still believe Fox News even after they paid $750 million in fines for false news and testified that they were just "entertainment"?
Sorry, I don't watch fox news so I have no idea what you're referring to 🤷‍♂️
 

silentkisser

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More information has come out, and while it is a major fuck up for CTV, this had nothing to do with them "lying for Trudeau."

It is more of how CTV cut out veteran leaders in the newsroom, and an attempt to make the clip keep context by making it shorter....and then someone else re-edited it and it removed the context. Here is the run down of what happened, according to this column in the Star:


The narrative starts on the morning of Sunday, Sept. 22, when CTV reporter Cristina Tenaglia, in Toronto, and Derek Thacker, a video editor in Ottawa, started working together on an item for that night’s CTV National News broadcast. The piece was based partly on an interview that Procurement Minister Jean-Yves Duclos did on CTV’s Question Period, which aired that day, in which he warned that if the NDP did not vote with the government, it would jeopardize a plan to provide dental care to low-income Canadians.

At 11:30 a.m., Tenaglia, who is known to be a stickler for details, sent Thacker an “elements list” that included a clip from Poilievre, in which he said: “That’s why it’s time to put forward a motion for a carbon tax election.” But there was a problem — a 1.5-second blank spot — in the video clip on CTV’s server. Thacker, a 37-year veteran, widely regarded as a talented and resourceful editor, found a way to save the clip, by cutting out “it’s time,” and inserting a phrase from a similar sentence later in the same scrum, “we need.” The new clip was therefore: “That’s why we need to put forward a motion for a carbon tax election.”

That seemed fine. The sense of the sentence was the same. Later in the editing process, though, the last few words, where Poilievre mentioned the carbon tax election, were trimmed, apparently to save time.

On their own, either of those two edits would be defensible. But taken together they created a problem. The final piece left viewers with the false impression that Poilievre was bringing a motion aimed at blocking a dental program.

Basically, it was a major fuck up, but it was not done with the intention of trying to paint PP in a negative light.
 

squeezer

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More information has come out, and while it is a major fuck up for CTV, this had nothing to do with them "lying for Trudeau."

It is more of how CTV cut out veteran leaders in the newsroom, and an attempt to make the clip keep context by making it shorter....and then someone else re-edited it and it removed the context. Here is the run down of what happened, according to this column in the Star:


The narrative starts on the morning of Sunday, Sept. 22, when CTV reporter Cristina Tenaglia, in Toronto, and Derek Thacker, a video editor in Ottawa, started working together on an item for that night’s CTV National News broadcast. The piece was based partly on an interview that Procurement Minister Jean-Yves Duclos did on CTV’s Question Period, which aired that day, in which he warned that if the NDP did not vote with the government, it would jeopardize a plan to provide dental care to low-income Canadians.

At 11:30 a.m., Tenaglia, who is known to be a stickler for details, sent Thacker an “elements list” that included a clip from Poilievre, in which he said: “That’s why it’s time to put forward a motion for a carbon tax election.” But there was a problem — a 1.5-second blank spot — in the video clip on CTV’s server. Thacker, a 37-year veteran, widely regarded as a talented and resourceful editor, found a way to save the clip, by cutting out “it’s time,” and inserting a phrase from a similar sentence later in the same scrum, “we need.” The new clip was therefore: “That’s why we need to put forward a motion for a carbon tax election.”

That seemed fine. The sense of the sentence was the same. Later in the editing process, though, the last few words, where Poilievre mentioned the carbon tax election, were trimmed, apparently to save time.


On their own, either of those two edits would be defensible. But taken together they created a problem. The final piece left viewers with the false impression that Poilievre was bringing a motion aimed at blocking a dental program.

Basically, it was a major fuck up, but it was not done with the intention of trying to paint PP in a negative light.
Pee Pee along with Sheer and the right wing group is trying to take a page out of Donald THE FELON Trump's playbook.
 

silentkisser

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Pee Pee along with Sheer and the right wing group is trying to take a page out of Donald THE FELON Trump's playbook.
Yeah, the backlash was quite something. And the anger they stoked was misplaced but effective. I mean, CTV is not a Liberal loving news organization. Remember, Mike Duffy sank Stephane Dion by airing a video clip where he couldn't hear or understand what a remote interviewer was asking, making him look foolish.

I should also mention that editing clips to remove filler words and what not is a slippery slope that most newsrooms wouldn't have allowed 10 years ago.
 
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Skoob

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More information has come out, and while it is a major fuck up for CTV, this had nothing to do with them "lying for Trudeau."

It is more of how CTV cut out veteran leaders in the newsroom, and an attempt to make the clip keep context by making it shorter....and then someone else re-edited it and it removed the context. Here is the run down of what happened, according to this column in the Star:


The narrative starts on the morning of Sunday, Sept. 22, when CTV reporter Cristina Tenaglia, in Toronto, and Derek Thacker, a video editor in Ottawa, started working together on an item for that night’s CTV National News broadcast. The piece was based partly on an interview that Procurement Minister Jean-Yves Duclos did on CTV’s Question Period, which aired that day, in which he warned that if the NDP did not vote with the government, it would jeopardize a plan to provide dental care to low-income Canadians.

At 11:30 a.m., Tenaglia, who is known to be a stickler for details, sent Thacker an “elements list” that included a clip from Poilievre, in which he said: “That’s why it’s time to put forward a motion for a carbon tax election.” But there was a problem — a 1.5-second blank spot — in the video clip on CTV’s server. Thacker, a 37-year veteran, widely regarded as a talented and resourceful editor, found a way to save the clip, by cutting out “it’s time,” and inserting a phrase from a similar sentence later in the same scrum, “we need.” The new clip was therefore: “That’s why we need to put forward a motion for a carbon tax election.”

That seemed fine. The sense of the sentence was the same. Later in the editing process, though, the last few words, where Poilievre mentioned the carbon tax election, were trimmed, apparently to save time.


On their own, either of those two edits would be defensible. But taken together they created a problem. The final piece left viewers with the false impression that Poilievre was bringing a motion aimed at blocking a dental program.

Basically, it was a major fuck up, but it was not done with the intention of trying to paint PP in a negative light.
ah yes...the usual excuses right on queue. Everything is always an "accident" or someone "misspoke", etc.

You're being played.
 

silentkisser

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ah yes...the usual excuses right on queue. Everything is always an "accident" or someone "misspoke", etc.

You're being played.
Dude, I've worked in newsrooms and at CTV on the weekend in the past. Believe me when I say this, a mistake like that can happen. They are usually caught and fixed before they air. I never liked splicing a clip together because of that reason, even when it made the clip shorter (which is very important in television). CTV is a shit show right now because they got rid of almost all of their senior leaders in the newsroom. Now, I cannot say what was in the hearts and minds of the reporter and editor, but I can tell you that how it happened is the most likely scenario. CTV has a journalistic ethics code that spells out and bans the use of taking clips out of context, and that's probably why they bot were fired.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Dude, I've worked in newsrooms and at CTV on the weekend in the past. Believe me when I say this, a mistake like that can happen. They are usually caught and fixed before they air. I never liked splicing a clip together because of that reason, even when it made the clip shorter (which is very important in television). CTV is a shit show right now because they got rid of almost all of their senior leaders in the newsroom. Now, I cannot say what was in the hearts and minds of the reporter and editor, but I can tell you that how it happened is the most likely scenario. CTV has a journalistic ethics code that spells out and bans the use of taking clips out of context, and that's probably why they bot were fired
Would you come to the defence of FoxNews if they made a similar mistake??
 
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