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She is the UN Rappporteur for Palestine, Shazi.
She may be a single representative of the UN, but she does not represent the will of the entire UN. That has to be voted upon by the UNGA.

What the Special Rapporteur Can Do (srdefenders.org)

Read it and you will also see that nowhere are her opinions/findings binding on the UN. She is but a single person and does not speak for the UN, itself. All she does is report her findings back to the UN and nothing else. She is not involved in the decision making process of the UN. Actually the position of a rapporteur is so menial that they work for free and are not actually an officer of the UN. She's a temp. LOL

Some excerpts for you:

The UN Special Rapporteur has a mandate to promote the work of human rights defenders and protect defenders at risk. She does this in the context of the UN Declaration on Human Rights Defenders adopted by consensus in 1998. She serves in a voluntary capacity and is independent of the UN, States and non-governmental organisations.

(LOL, Geno. She's not even an official of the UN and you try to BS us. Who knew? So it's a big joke that when a rapporteur says something, you automatically tell us that that is what the UN says. How can someone who isn't even an official of the UN speak on behalf of the UN. I caught you in another blatant lie. Stop lying Geno. You continue to embarrass yourself.)

As part of her work,
Writes formal letters to governments and other actors (such as companies) called “communications“. In these letters, she raises concerns about situations where human rights defenders are at risk.

Engages State authorities in dialogue about the situation of human rights defenders in their countries through public & private meetings, webinars & other events.

Makes two annual official visits to countries following a Government invitation. She then writes reports on the situation of human rights defenders in those places, including recommendations to the Government and other actors on how to better support and protect them.


Writes thematic reports which are presented to States at the UN Human Rights Council and UN General Assembly each year. In most cases, the Special Rapporteur invites human rights defenders & civil society to inform these reports by formally submitting information.

  • Her latest report is on the successes of human rights defenders and was presented to the UN Human Rights in March 2023.

(Nowhere does it say Geno that she is allowed speak on behalf of the UN. Stop lying.)
 
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She may be a single representative of the UN, but she does not represent the will of the entire UN. That has to be voted upon by the UNGA.

What the Special Rapporteur Can Do (srdefenders.org)

Read it and you will also see that nowhere are her opinions/findings binding on the UN. She is but a single person and does not speak for the UN, itself. All she does is report her findings back to the UN and nothing else. She is not involved in the decision making process of the UN. Actually the position of a rapporteur is so menial that they work for free and are not actually an officer of the UN. She's a temp. LOL

Some excerpts for you:

The UN Special Rapporteur has a mandate to promote the work of human rights defenders and protect defenders at risk. She does this in the context of the UN Declaration on Human Rights Defenders adopted by consensus in 1998. She serves in a voluntary capacity and is independent of the UN, States and non-governmental organisations.

(LOL, Geno. She's not even an official of the UN and you try to BS us. Who knew? So it's a big joke that when a rapporteur says something, you automatically tell us that that is what the UN says. How can someone who isn't even an official of the UN speak on behalf of the UN. I caught you in another blatant lie. Stop lying Geno. You continue to embarrass yourself.)

As part of her work,
Writes formal letters to governments and other actors (such as companies) called “communications“. In these letters, she raises concerns about situations where human rights defenders are at risk.

Engages State authorities in dialogue about the situation of human rights defenders in their countries through public & private meetings, webinars & other events.

Makes two annual official visits to countries following a Government invitation. She then writes reports on the situation of human rights defenders in those places, including recommendations to the Government and other actors on how to better support and protect them.


Writes thematic reports which are presented to States at the UN Human Rights Council and UN General Assembly each year. In most cases, the Special Rapporteur invites human rights defenders & civil society to inform these reports by formally submitting information.

  • Her latest report is on the successes of human rights defenders and was presented to the UN Human Rights in March 2023.

(Nowhere does it say Geno that she is allowed speak on behalf of the UN. Stop lying.)
Israel just prefers to kill UN workers, threaten ICC and ICJ judges, bribe the US into defending them and try to label all criticism of genocide as antisemitic.

Your attacks on the UN and the UN Rapporteur are pretty lame ass, Shazi.

The Rapporteur does the investigations and then issues the reports that UN policy is based on.
The previous rapporteur:
Israel’s 55-year occupation of Palestinian Territory is apartheid – UN human rights expert

 
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Israel just prefers to kill UN workers, threaten ICC and ICJ judges, bribe the US into defending them and try to label all criticism of genocide as antisemitic.

Shack: "I say that is just garbage and deflection as to the discussion of a rapporteur's role, Geno. That's what we were talking about. Not UN workers or bribery or antisemitism. We were talking about a rapporteur speaking on behalf of the UN"

Your attacks on the UN and the UN Rapporteur are pretty lame ass, Shazi.

The Rapporteur does the investigations and then issues the reports that UN policy is based on.
Hahahahahahahaha. What a loser of a post.

I totally shattered your fallacy of a rapporteur being any kind of spokesperson for the UN. She is not even an official of the UN. She's an office temp who offers to work for free. She's an intern. And you try to tell us that she speaks for the UN? Fucking joke. Hahahahahaha.
Your attacks on the UN and the UN Rapporteur are pretty lame ass, Shazi.
Geno, I attack you and your compulsive, habitual and pathological lying, not the UN in any way. My post was anything but lame. It was bang on. You did not, because you could not, factually dispute anything that I said about the role of the rapporteur. It's a page from the UN website. It has the UN logo.

I exposed your lying bullshit, Geno. You have a big, fat, gooey wad of raw egg oozing slowly down your face. How is that attacking the UN? I quoted a page from the UN's own website of what the duties of a rapporteur are. You are claiming that the UN is attacking itself, seeing as quoted them. Hahahahahaha. Idiotic. Moronic. The rapporteur volunteers to accept those duties. She's attacking the duties she's volunteering for? Hahahahahaha.

The Rapporteur does the investigations and then issues the reports that UN policy is based on.
Fine. She's a gumshoe. She gathers information.

But your claim that she represents the UN and speaks for the UN is total and utter hogwash. She is and does no such thing.

So, seeing as we've established that a rapporteur does not have the ability or right to speak on behalf of the UN, and that neither the UNGA nor the UNSC has passed any resolutions declaring that Israel is either committing genocide or practising apartheid, you need to stop saying that that is the UN's position. You have no evidence at all that that is the UN's position. Lying/spreading falsehoods for the sake of demonizing a race or group of people is hate speech. Hate speech is not allowed on TERB.

Just for you, Geno:

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Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha.
 

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Hahahahahahahaha. What a loser of a post.

I totally shattered your fallacy of a rapporteur being any kind of spokesperson for the UN. She is not even an official of the UN. She's an office temp who offers to work for free. She's an intern. And you try to tell us that she speaks for the UN? Fucking joke. Hahahahahaha.

Geno, I attack you and your compulsive, habitual and pathological lying, not the UN in any way. My post was anything but lame. It was bang on. You did not, because you could not, factually dispute anything that I said about the role of the rapporteur. It's a page from the UN website. It has the UN logo.

I exposed your lying bullshit, Geno. You have a big, fat, gooey wad of raw egg oozing slowly down your face. How is that attacking the UN? I quoted a page from the UN's own website of what the duties of a rapporteur are. You are claiming that the UN is attacking itself, seeing as quoted them. Hahahahahaha. Idiotic. Moronic. The rapporteur volunteers to accept those duties. She's attacking the duties she's volunteering for? Hahahahahaha.


Fine. She's a gumshoe. She gathers information.

But your claim that she represents the UN and speaks for the UN is total and utter hogwash. She is and does no such thing.

So, seeing as we've established that a rapporteur does not have the ability or right to speak on behalf of the UN, and that neither the UNGA nor the UNSC has passed any resolutions declaring that Israel is either committing genocide or practising apartheid, you need to stop saying that that is the UN's position. You have no evidence at all that that is the UN's position. Lying/spreading falsehoods for the sake of demonizing a race or group of people is hate speech. Hate speech is not allowed on TERB.

Just for you, Geno:

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Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha.
Anyone who has to write that much to refute a smaller post is trying too hard.Your post reeks of desperation.
 

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(Nowhere does it say Geno that she is allowed speak on behalf of the UN. Stop lying.)
But I am sure Lancet said she is allowed to speak for the UN. Lancet also said fat old guys make the best sexual and marriage partners in case any adorkable ladies are reading this.
 

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Anyone who has to write that much to refute a smaller post is trying too hard.Your post reeks of desperation.
OK, numbnuts.

Can a rapporteur speak on behalf of the entire UN?
Was the 6 Day War a hallucination?

Why don't you answer those questions?
 
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But I am sure Lancet said she is allowed to speak for the UN. Lancet also said fat old guys make the best sexual and marriage partners in case any adorkable ladies are reading this.
Geno's posts are getting as laughable as trump's.

Did you read the thread where he accused the mods of being racist against Muslims/Arabs?

He's having a rough day.

Seeing as misery loves company, we should all chip to send him a book.

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Did you read the thread where he accused the mods of being racist against Muslims/Arabs?
I'm pretty sure Lancet said something about that.

The fact that his genocidal rape loving ass hasn't been banned kinda shows the mods are not racist against Muslims and Arabs... but if Lancet says it, it must be true I guess.
 

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The fact that his genocidal rape loving ass hasn't been banned kinda shows the mods are not racist against Muslims and Arabs...
Yet, that's what he said.

Mandrill said something negative about Arabs/Muslims and Geno said that if he'd made the same negative comment about any other race/peoples he would have been banned by the Mods. But since it was about Muslims, that's why the mods didn't ban him. That can only be interpreted one way.
 

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Yet, that's what he said.

Mandrill said something negative about Arabs/Muslims and Geno said that if he'd made the same negative comment about any other race/peoples he would have been banned by the Mods. But since it was about Muslims, that's why the mods didn't ban him. That can only be interpreted one way.
Giving the lancet trope thing a rest for a bit. Holy fuck. The shit he has been saying and defending with no action taken. Delulu is not the selulu.
 

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Hahahahahahahaha. What a loser of a post.

I totally shattered your fallacy of a rapporteur being any kind of spokesperson for the UN. She is not even an official of the UN. She's an office temp who offers to work for free. She's an intern. And you try to tell us that she speaks for the UN? Fucking joke. Hahahahahaha.

Geno, I attack you and your compulsive, habitual and pathological lying, not the UN in any way. My post was anything but lame. It was bang on. You did not, because you could not, factually dispute anything that I said about the role of the rapporteur. It's a page from the UN website. It has the UN logo.

I exposed your lying bullshit, Geno. You have a big, fat, gooey wad of raw egg oozing slowly down your face. How is that attacking the UN? I quoted a page from the UN's own website of what the duties of a rapporteur are. You are claiming that the UN is attacking itself, seeing as quoted them. Hahahahahaha. Idiotic. Moronic. The rapporteur volunteers to accept those duties. She's attacking the duties she's volunteering for? Hahahahahaha.


Fine. She's a gumshoe. She gathers information.

But your claim that she represents the UN and speaks for the UN is total and utter hogwash. She is and does no such thing.

So, seeing as we've established that a rapporteur does not have the ability or right to speak on behalf of the UN, and that neither the UNGA nor the UNSC has passed any resolutions declaring that Israel is either committing genocide or practising apartheid, you need to stop saying that that is the UN's position. You have no evidence at all that that is the UN's position. Lying/spreading falsehoods for the sake of demonizing a race or group of people is hate speech. Hate speech is not allowed on TERB.

Just for you, Geno:

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Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha.
Typical dishonest Shazi.
You intentionally left out this bit.

The mandate calls on the Special Rapporteur:

  1. To investigate Israel's violations of the principles and bases of international law, international humanitarian law and the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949, in the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel since 1967;
  2. To receive communications, to hear witnesses, and to use such modalities of procedure as he may deem necessary for his mandate; and
  3. To report, with his conclusions and recommendations, to the Commission on Human Rights at its future sessions, until the end of the Israeli occupation of those territories.
 
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Yet, that's what he said.

Mandrill said something negative about Arabs/Muslims and Geno said that if he'd made the same negative comment about any other race/peoples he would have been banned by the Mods. But since it was about Muslims, that's why the mods didn't ban him. That can only be interpreted one way.
Yes, Shazi.
Go ahead and tell us how you think the mods are racist.

US Data Shows Surge in Hate Against Muslims, Palestinians Persists
As Israel's U.S.-backed war on Gaza continues, university administrators, employers, and federal agencies are contributors to rising complaints of Islamophobia.
 
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Big deal. She can investigate. It still doesn't say that the rapporteur can speak on behalf of the UN. Show us where it says that she is entitled to set UN policy.

It is you who is typically dishonest. What is dishonest is your claim that her findings are automatically the position of the UN. She reports to them. Nothing more. It's up to the UN to decide how to use the info.

When you claim that the UNGA says that Israel is committing genocide and your only so-called proof is a rapporteur's report that's another one of your sneaky lies. You need a statement/resolution from the UNGA itself to substantiate your claim.

You are flailing Geno. Everyone can see that you are the one being dishonest, not I. Nothing you've posted proves your point.
 

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Of course you think this isn't racist.
That post is irrelevant and just more deflection. We're talking about your post. The one that says denigrating any race is worthy of a ban, unless it said about Arabs/Muslims, in which case there is no ban. You think that Mandrill should have been banned and this is your observation as to why he wasn't.

You can't do a better job of accusing the mods of being racists/Islamophobes.
 

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Yes, Shazi.
Go ahead and tell us how you think the mods are racist.

US Data Shows Surge in Hate Against Muslims, Palestinians Persists

As Israel's U.S.-backed war on Gaza continues, university administrators, employers, and federal agencies are contributors to rising complaints of Islamophobia.
You post irrelevant garbage. It is YOU who is unhappy with the mods decision not to ban Mandrill. I said nothing that can be considered accusatory towards the mods.

Actually, by posting that link, you are intimating that the mods are being swept up in this surge of hate against Muslims etc. You are doubling down. How dumb can you be?
 

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Big deal. She can investigate. It still doesn't say that the rapporteur can speak on behalf of the UN. Show us where it says that she is entitled to set UN policy.

It is you who is typically dishonest. What is dishonest is your claim that her findings are automatically the position of the UN. She reports to them. Nothing more. It's up to the UN to decide how to use the info.

When you claim that the UNGA says that Israel is committing genocide and your only so-called proof is a rapporteur's report that's another one of your sneaky lies. You need a statement/resolution from the UNGA itself to substantiate your claim.

You are flailing Geno. Everyone can see that you are the one being dishonest, not I. Nothing you've posted proves your point.
She is mandated to investigate human rights abuses and take those findings back to the UN so that the UN can decide what to do.
That includes issuing reports which stand as UN investigations and which can and will be used at ICC and ICJ trials.
Of course Rappporteur's don't set policy, they report on human rights abuses to those who do set policy.
And the Rapporteur has detailed Israeli apartheid, genocide and illegal occupation.

You are failing as a hasbara troll, Shazi.
You should know the basics or have better talking points.


 

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That post is irrelevant and just more deflection. We're talking about your post. The one that says denigrating any race is worthy of a ban, unless it said about Arabs/Muslims, in which case there is no ban. You think that Mandrill should have been banned and this is your observation as to why he wasn't.

You can't do a better job of accusing the mods of being racists/Islamophobes.
Confirmed, you don't think zionists calling for genocide is racist.
You were given a clear example and refused to call it out, which means you support those views.

Now look what zionists are causing.

 
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You post irrelevant garbage. It is YOU who is unhappy with the mods decision not to ban Mandrill. I said nothing that can be considered accusatory towards the mods.

Actually, by posting that link, you are intimating that the mods are being swept up in this surge of hate against Muslims etc. You are doubling down. How dumb can you be?
Go ahead, take this to the mods and see what they say.
See if they see you one year of promoting genocide as against policy or acceptable.

318 (1) Every one who advocates or promotes genocide is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.

Definition of genocide
(2) In this section, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy in whole or in part any identifiable group, namely,
(a) killing members of the group; or
(b) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction


 
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She is mandated to investigate human rights abuses and take those findings back to the UN so that the UN can decide what to do.
Exactly. Nobody is disputing. that.

Where the dispute arises is when I say that the UN has never condemned Israel, you say, yes they have and cite the rapporteur's report.

A rapporteur's report is not a statement from the UNGA.
A rapporteur's report is not UN policy.
A rapporteur's report is not a UN resolution.

So when you claim, as you've done numerous times, that "the UN says that Israel is committing genocide" is not at all true. It is a finding of an investigation submitted it to them. That's all. If the UNGA ever adopts that stance, then they will issue a statement saying so and/or passing a resolution. Until such time, it is a lie to say that is the official UN position.

You cannot use a report and then say "that's what the UN says".
 
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