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The Great Debate

Who won the great debate?

  • Harris

    Votes: 77 78.6%
  • Trump

    Votes: 9 9.2%
  • Both were bad with no winner

    Votes: 10 10.2%
  • Both were good with no winner

    Votes: 2 2.0%

  • Total voters
    98

jalimon

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Exactly. Harris's amused facial expressions and her hand under her chin at the same time while Trump was speaking were reminders of how my exe's often used to react when I was stating my side of a heated "discussion"...

Standard entitled female tactics...
And? Does that mean she was wrong? I am not sure i understand what you mean by female tactics. Are you another misogynistic old fart maybe?
 

Big Rig

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A fact check moderators missed


On Tuesday evening, Trump criticized Harris’s clean energy approaches like reducing fracking and fossil fuel emissions. He claimed those policies do not work and cited Germany as an example.

Germany tried that and within one year they were back to building normal energy plants. We’re not ready for it. We can’t sacrifice our country for the sake of bad vision,” Trump added.

But Germany refuted that claim, telling the former president, “Like it or not: Germany’s energy system is fully operational, with more than 50 % renewables. And we are shutting down – not building – coal & nuclear plants. Coal will be off the grid by 2038 at the latest.”

But they have faced setbacks over the last few years when they, controversially, chose to shut down their remaining three nuclear power plants last year and faced potential energy shortage issues at the start of the Ukraine–Russia war.

This meant Germany had to rely more on its coal-powered plants longer than anticipated to avoid a catastrophic shortage and starve-off price increases.

But the country has not built any new coal plants and continues to shut down some each year.
 

xmontrealer

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And? Does that mean she was wrong? I am not sure i understand what you mean by female tactics. Are you another misogynistic old fart maybe?
Maybe. Maybe not. But obviously she was doing everything she could to get under his skin, including non-verbal taunting. And it worked.

I respect a lot of things about women, and generally get along with them just fine, but some of them feel they can cross "the respect line" with impunity.

My mother, and society, taught me to never hit a woman. And I never did.

Doesn't mean they don't sometimes deserve a smack doing stuff that, if they were a male, would get a physical reaction from another male they were doing it to...
 

jalimon

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Maybe. Maybe not. But obviously she was doing everything she could to get under his skin, including non-verbal taunting. And it worked.

I respect a lot of things about women, and generally get along with them just fine, but some of them feel they can cross "the respect line" with impunity.

My mother, and society, taught me to never hit a woman. And I never did.

Doesn't mean they don't sometimes deserve a smack doing stuff that, if they were a male, would get a physical reaction from another male they were doing it to...
Do you think Trump respects women? He’s a fraud. A bully. A racist. and above all a men who was never able to attract a girl because he’s a narcissist psycho.
 

bver_hunter

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When Fox's Host Neil Cavuto even admitted that Trump decisively lost the debate. This has pissed off Trumpty Dumbty who thinks that he won hands down:

 
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SchlongConery

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A more subtle thought , Trump talks about wild stuff like cat eaters so that is what is discussed by the press instead of his incompetence as President.

Just a thought
His cult followers eat that up! Figuratively and literally! He was race baiting his followers by implicating Haitian immigrants/refugees (ie: darkies) in all the disaster Trump predicts and how the USA is failing etc.

That's why he didn't lose any approval from Republican voters after showing how easily he is baited into going off on ridiculous lying rants.
 

xmontrealer

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Do you think Trump respects women? He’s a fraud. A bully. A racist. and above all a men who was never able to attract a girl because he’s a narcissist psycho.
Like I have said before, I wouldn't vote for either Trump or Harris even if I could vote. Not too crazy about Tim or JD either.

And I wouldn't' vote for Trudeau, Poilievre, or Singh.

Let's face it, I do not have much respect for politicians in general.

As for Presidents who were womanizers, let's not forget Thomas Jefferson, Grover Cleveland, Richard Nixon, JFK, LBJ, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and of course "The Donald". And that's only those we know of. Do you think they all got these women to have sex with them because they were so hot and handsome?
 
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Frankfooter

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Maybe. Maybe not. But obviously she was doing everything she could to get under his skin, including non-verbal taunting. And it worked.

I respect a lot of things about women, and generally get along with them just fine, but some of them feel they can cross "the respect line" with impunity.

My mother, and society, taught me to never hit a woman. And I never did.

Doesn't mean they don't sometimes deserve a smack doing stuff that, if they were a male, would get a physical reaction from another male they were doing it to...
The proper way to deal with a bullshitter or the gish gallop is not to try to challenge every point but to bait them into the worst of their bullshit. Regardless of whether they are male or female. Laughing at a bullshitter is a smart move, far better than trying to argue 'no Donald, Haitians are not eating the dogs and cats'. She did that really well, letting rump string himself out.

She called him out on his favourite bullshit, crowd sizes, how loved he is, how smart he is, how everything and everyone is against him.

Suggesting that she needed to be hit just trends towards that MAGA incel thing where you just get angry and whine about being cancelled when people call out bullshit.
 
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Frankfooter

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Do you think Trump respects women? He’s a fraud. A bully. A racist. and above all a men who was never able to attract a girl because he’s a narcissist psycho.
As Harris pointed out, he's also a rapist. Being a rapist trying to ban abortion and calling single women 'cat ladies' is going to kill those votes.
 
I'm not aware of this standard. Is it codified anywhere? If not, that was always one of the issues with a judicial ruling.
This refers to the long-standing for decade Supreme Court decision in Roe. In the Senate hearings each of the new Trump Supreme court nominees said as I recall that a long-standing ruling should not easily be overturned. But they did and in polls about 80% of the US wants to return to the 24 week standard of Roe.
 
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Yeah, I hate this about her. First question of the debate was about the current economy and she just tee'd off it onto her canned plan for the future etc. She last points in terms of authenticity for me.
The explanation of why Harris had nothing to do with high inflation which was global and could go on for a long time the reasons. No President caused it and no President can bring down the huge increase of the past in prices in a free enterprise economy based on supply vs demand. Many food prices are determined by global pricing of commodities on the board of trade etc. The FED slowed the out of control hot COVID economy to tame inflation which is now close to the 2% target both in the US and most Western countries.

Further, the role of the VP is to support the role of the President, not make her own

Of course, she supports the great Biden boom economy with some of the lowest unemployment in history. This economy beats all other major economies in GDP growth except China (which has other major issues and is not used to only 8% growth) and Russia, which is fueled by war spending but is expected to drop in 2025. Most of Europe is in or near recession vs the US avoiding it seems even a soft landing with our strong economy even with high interest rates to slow our roaring Biden economy. It is not all due to him but certainly nothing to do with Trump whose policies would stimulate more inflation (including tax cuts for the wealthy and broad tariffs, which are like sales taxes to consumers)

The major Biden spending has been in investments for clean energy, tech manufacturing in the US vs China and so many other good investments for the future and during the COVID payments to avoid poverty and needy folks who could not work. Vs. Trump mess of just tossing out checks to anyone and delayed one big one since he insisted on having his name on it.

YOu can not provide a comprehensive factual answer in a 1-minute limit in the debate stating facts, not the constant string of lies from Trump and his madness, childish name calling for anyone against him and his goal of creating chaos so he can be the strongman dictators he wants to duplicate such as Putin and his love of N Korea, Oberon etc. And, of course, he is following the path of Hitner closely in his con-man misinformation for the sake of power regardless of facts.
 
Why on earth do folks post anything as if it is a fact from social media? This is where the Russians go to plant stories vs honest reporters that fact-check instead of promoting wild conspiracy theories that benefit the lies of the Heil MAGA folks, just like the misinformation of Hitler.

Founded in 2013 by Canadian entrepreneur Chris Pavlovski, Rumble was originally dedicated to hosting viral videos of dogs and cats. The site now claims to push back “against cancel culture and creeping censorship,” hosting shows by Donald Trump Jr. and right-wing personality Steven Crowder. Rumble is also the official streaming partner of the Republican National Committee’s 2024 presidential primary debate.

Rumble’s investors have included JD Vance, a US senator from Ohio, and Silicon Valley venture capitalist Peter Thiel, who has contributed heavily to Republican candidates. Elon Musk confidant and tech venture capitalist David Sacks sits on Rumble’s board of directors.

Musk is now joining the cult and passing on baseless information as if it was facts like the Haitis stealing and eating cats and dogs totally discredited but spread all over the corrupt MAGA cult misinformation to create chaos supporting the strongman dictator Trump vs a democracy we have enjoyed. Trump said of the false cat and dog story was because he saw it on social media. Anything crazy gets repeated as if it is real-world facts; it is disgusting to anyone supporting democracy based on facts and truth.
 

dirtydaveiii

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Sure, there would be a one-time raise in prices. If it's business as usual with China, then it should be avoided. It's not business as usual.

As far as the level of price increases, it depends how much of the tax the Chinese eat to stay competitive with other Asian countries, Mexico, etc. If the Chinese eat some of the tax rather than try to raise prices to entirely offset the taxes, that's a net benefit for the U.S. treasury.

I don't know why the Democrats decided to argue about tariffs. I think it's a losing argument for them.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...usinesses-from-chinas-unfair-trade-practices/
 

NotADcotor

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Mitch, you are making the forum an obsession. Please post less. You don't have to post many redundant tweets with the same point.
And he laughs even at this reasonable suggestion.

It's amazeballs what is allowed and what isn't here.
 
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NotADcotor

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Why?? I'm not wasting my time typing responses, when I realize that over 98% of the participants in the terb politics forum, are left-wingers. I'm a total right-winger, and I'm proud of it!!

I'm a total Trump and a Pierre fan!! I think that both Harris and Justin, are both total losers.....LMAO
So you are only here to proselytize, you are not here to engage in sincere discussion at all. That are you are here to troll as indicated with how you laugh even when other right wingers say you should dial it back and when it is pointed out your sources are lying to you.
 
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