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Who won the great debate?

  • Harris

    Votes: 71 78.0%

  • Trump

    Votes: 9 9.9%

  • Both were bad with no winner

    Votes: 9 9.9%

  • Both were good with no winner

    Votes: 2 2.2%
  • Total voters
    91
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mitchell76

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834197354817183817

This morning, MSNBC
@MSNBC
hosted an entire panel discussion about me live on TV in which they called me every name in the book and said “Laura Loomer is a freak”. They are doing this today of all days because tomorrow, Judge Merchan’s daughter’s business partner
@MikeNellis
must report to the House Judiciary Committee at 9 am. He’s been ordered by a subpoena (thanks to my reporting) and the media wants to create a firestorm around me to discredit me ahead of his appearance since I broke the story, because they know Mike Nellis is getting paid by Kamala Harris, per FEC filings he must turn over his communications with Judge Merchan. It’s laughable watching how the network that pushed the Russian collusion conspiracy hoax for years is calling me a “conspiracy theorist” and a racist when their DEI hires at MSDNC Demonize white people on a daily basis and give a platform to Jew haters and Islamic terrorist advocates. They promoted the anti white Evangelicals for Harris who told white people they are evil and that they need to “divest from whiteness”. MSNBC actively encourages political violence against Donald Trump and his supporters and they had to freeze
@Morning_Joe
after Donald Trump was almost assassinated because they knew their hosts wouldn’t be able to refrain from celebrating on air the fact that Donald Trump was shot and almost killed in Butler, PA. MSNBC even suggested that Donald Trump wasn’t shot by a bullet….and their hosts have suggested we’d be better off if he had died. And they are now calling me a “freak” and a “conspiracy theorist” when they are the freaks and actual conspiracy theorists. The media knows Donald Trump is going to win, and they are terrified. Their empire of lies is crumbling so now they are attacking independent journalists who support Trump.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834224539322184163

JD Vance is proving to be an asset for the Trump campaign through media appearances, something the Harris campaign is completely avoiding. Here are three examples post ABC debate: 1. Jon Karl tries baiting Vance by talking about Trump’s ‘mean words’ about Harris. Vance turns it around and relates it to Kamala’s proposals that make no sense. “She repeats these ridiculous platitudes where if you actually think about what she said, you realize that it doesn't make any sense.” 2. Kaitlan Collins brings up the Haitians eating animals story from Springfield. Vance flips it on the media for failing to investigate and then discusses the overall impact in Springfield from the migrants. 3. CNBC questions Vance over Trump’s economic and tariff proposals. Vance immediately calls out Apple for using slave labor and says if companies want access to American markets, they need to use American workers.
 
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Fact checking at debate by moderators was a mixed bag and they could have done
a lot better, Also they gave Trump 5 more minutes of speaking time

In all fairness they never called out Harris when she said

1 there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone. While they are not at war in combat zones they have died in combat zones. She had no reason to exaggerate , or worse, not know the facts

That is a half lie

2 If Donald Trump were to be re-elected, he will sign a national abortion ban.” when he has said he will leave decision to each state . Again, I see no reason for her to state something as a fact when it is not she should of simply stated he had called for one in his appeal to evangelist and he can not be trusted ,

However they did give Tump time to respond and asked Trump to say he does not believe in abortion ban and he would not do so saying the question was irrelevant
so moderators they did their job

3 Trump called nazis “very fine people” at the Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally
when his full quote excluded nazis. She should have left that comment out
as he has said other stuff just as bad

That was a full lie

4 “What you’re going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again,” Harris declared. While that may be true, there is only circumstantial evidence he is
involved which he denies so she should of pointed out the evidence and the fact that he tells so many lies you cannot believe him

That was a half lie


In her defence, you need to keep things point simple to get voters attention, but it is still a half lie


5 Trump left us with highest unemployment since the great depression; the truth is since the great recession so no need to lie or not have facts correct

That was a half lie


While they did call out some Trump lies they missed a big one about nancy pelosi not calling out national guard during the riot as she never had the power to do that and fervently calls Trump a liar . That is his biggest lie that is so easily proved as he could have stopped the riot by calling out guards before the protest

Harris told 1 full lie 4 half lies which seems typical for a polititcian while trump told 33 half or full lies





BTW, Trumps camp is now stating Harris ear jewerly was an ear phone feeding her answers LOL


What next, she injected LSD into Trump with a 007 secret ring she got from James Bond when they shook hands causing him to be disorientated?
 
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Big Rig said:
Fact checking at debate by moderators was a mixed bag and they could have done
a lot better

In all fairness they never called out Harris when she said

1 there is not one member of the United States military who is in active duty in a combat zone. While they are not at war in combat zones they have died in combat zones. She had no reason to exaggerate , or worse, not know the facts
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What is there to call out?
You just said that her statement was true.

-- Wait, looking again, I think what you were trying to say is that while her statement about war zones is true, "combat zones" are classified differently and there ARE people there.
I wouldn't have objected to the moderators asking to clarify that, but I can see why it didn't happen.



2 If Donald Trump were to be re-elected, he will sign a national abortion ban.” when he has said the opposite. Again, I see no reason for her to state something as a fact when it is not she should of simply stated he had called for one in his appeal to evangelist and he can not be trusted
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Because this is an opinion on what Trump will really do.
Not something the moderators will fact check when he is right there to deny it.
3 Trump called nazis “very fine people” at the Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally
when he said his comment excluded nazis. She should have left that comment out
as he has said other stuff just as bad
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Again, since Trump is right there to rebut it, not something the moderators would intervene on.

4 “What you’re going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again,” Harris declared. While that may be true, their is only circumstantial evidence he is involved which he denies so she should of pointed out the evidence and the fact that he tells so many lies yoiu cannot believe him
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Donald Trump is right there to rebut.

5 Trump left us with highest umemployment since the great depression; the truth is since the great recession so no need to lie or not have facts correct
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Assuming that's true, I would have been fine with them stepping in to correct that.

While they did call out some Trump lies they missed a big one about nancy pelosi not calling out national guard during the riot as she never had the power to do that and fervently calls Trump a liar . That is big as he could have stopped the riot by calling oluit guards before the protest
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It seems to me that the moderators did their best to limit their fact checks to egregiously false simple statements that don't require interpretation rather than litigating every shade of nuance of what the two sides said.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834038053121265934

ALERT: The Secret Service leader in charge of Presidential protective units, Michael Plati, announced his retirement yesterday. He'll leave the service with full benefits and honors, despite the fact that
@realdonaldtrump
was nearly killed under his watch. Top sources inside the
@SecretService
tell Fox that agency brass encouraged him to step aside. The agency should publicly fire Plati and walk him out the door in disgrace, but instead, they tried to bury the story on debate night and are practically throwing the guy a party on his way out.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1834280803603501486

I won the Debate, but was criticized by the Radical Left Lunatics because I looked “angry and forceful.” But think, why wouldn’t I be angry? I love the U.S.A., and it is being destroyed by grossly incompetent leadership. Inflation, A Terrible Economy, Horrible Military Decisions, No Respect from around the World, and more than 20 Million people, many from prisons and mental institutions, are pouring into our Country, and creating Havoc, Crime, and Destruction, like never seen before. Am I supposed to be smiling, like Comrade Kamala Harris, with her FAKE one-and-a-half hour smile and long practiced facial expressions, despite all of the problems that she and Crooked Joe have caused. No, there’s nothing to smile about, but there will be in the not too distant future, when America makes the biggest Comeback in History. November 5th - MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! Donald Trump Truth Social 12:59 PM EST 09/12/24
 
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