More Hunter Biden Bribe taking for Dad.
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The NY "fraud charges" were imo a bad stretch of laws atkin to a Law and Order episode. Hence the appeal. If the law stands so hbe it and let's see if the NY justice system goes after all the land speculation moguls who do the same thing.
Meantime though I consider them untested new law introduced as a political weapon. And a jury that had bias.
But you think the charges on HB were not untested and regularly applied to people?
All family members out to how far are banned from registering as lobbyists?
Lifetime ban?
Ban only while the family member is active?
How are you seeing that?
This seems entirely irrelevant to the family member question.
What's the connection you're making here?
OK, this is while the family member is in office.
But, for instance, this wouldn't apply to the Hunter situation, no?
I don't think Burisma had US government contracts.
Make what "strict as shit"?
Like I said, your rules seem like they would have stopped Hunter Biden from his lobbying work, but wouldn't have kept him off the board of Burisma.
The fraud charges aren't felonies.
That's one of the other cases.
(It can be hard keeping track, I know.)
I have no idea how to do it.
That's the whole issue.
It's incredibly hard, like I said.
Do you literally ban any family member from ever having a job?
Because outside of that, you always have workarounds.
That's why most of these laws have "appearance of conflict" and "reasonable person" language in them, because it's fucking hard.
Burisma had no government contracts, but obviously the US government can help the company out via foreign policy or general regulation of that industry.
What do you do about "I got an invite to this party with important people so that let me set up a meeting"?
I think the "they can't be a registered lobbyist" is probably enforceable and not overreach. (Even if someone might have to give up a previously existing job while their family member is serving.)
If this shit was simple, people would have fixed it.
When did you start believing that the only people who write laws and propose governmental systems are lawmakers?
That's new.
In other words. Ya got nothing. As usual.
Val, when you actually have an opinion beyond, the status quo is the best we can hope for, let me know, OK.
It's funny when you just bail completely.
I point out the weaknesses of your proposal, acknowledging parts where it is good.
You panic and go to "how would you do it?" because you think I'm trapping you into showing your whole ass and not just trying to point out that putting together a law that actually stops this all is extremely difficult.
You go immediately to "The status quo is the best we can hope for because everyone is corrupt" and when I point out other people draft laws than just the corrupt lawmakers you immediately say that
I'm the one saying all we can hope for is the status quo.
It's kind of hilarious.
It usually takes you longer, though.
What about the nature that you are questioning? There are felons that have been proven in court.
Is Trump above the law?
Well no. That's not true. I asked you how you would do it, and couldn't come up with an answer. So really that means you haven't thought about it enough to qualify you to critique anyone else. That is your MO. You actually don't want anything to change but pretend you do just to criticize legitimate discourse.
So why bother with someone who can't or won't formulate an opinion. Nothing to be learnt from someone who supports status quo corruption because they can't fathom change is possible..
Or don't want it.
The only fair trial for rump would have a jury of
Hmmmm?
Groundbreaking legal analysis!
I never could figure out why you aren't
Just remember Trump's DOJ (SDNY) prosecuted Michael Cohen for this same crime Trump is convicted of and Cohen served time in prison.
Just saying.
Just saying.
