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Do some women lose interest in sex as they get married/older?

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I already mention breast cancer in an earlier post on this thread but for centuries it was white man only who were admitted into medical studies, who’s symptoms were taken into account when women can have the same issue but different symptoms. I mean I could go on and on and go find the stats but there are so many examples, if you are truly interested, you can google it yourself.

Just google the differences between IUD insertions and vasectomies. Google how they handled completely differently. Women have their cervix forced open, a foreign objected stuck into their uterus and are given no pain management. Women have a baby and are sent home the next day with some Tylenol. Men get a vasectomy and get a whole care package sent home with them. They get medication beforehand they get anxiety medication. They get pain medication afterwards and they are plenty of men on this board who could testify that a vasectomy is not that bad.

Or look at stats for heart attacks if you want to compare apples to apples. Women have different symptoms yet the only ones promoted to look out for are the symptoms men have. So many women don’t even know they have had a heart attack because they don’t know the symptoms that are for women.

I could go on and on but you should do some googling on it. There is plenty of info. And then if you find the difference in medicine for men and women interesting, start looking at the difference in medicine between white people and people of colour. It will blow your mind.

I agree with many / actually pretty much all of your points about women’s health, however I think you might be mistaken about pre and post vasectomy pain relief. For me sedation=none, no anxiety meds, local anesthesia, which was fine until doc says “I’m frying your vas” , felt a bit like my left nut was being pulled to my knee, while getting kicked in the solar plexus, severely unpleasant, but mostly brief. Post op pain relief is Tylenol/ Advil grabbed from shoppers on the way home and an ice pack. Back to work the next day (thankfully tho was doing mostly desk work, so I could ice my nards while working on the computer).

Now, I actually feel that all of the above was entirely appropriate given the reasonably expected, pretty unpleasant, yet temporary pain lasting (and gradually declining) for a week of so after. But no sedation, no “care package” . The guys that get the “care package” get snipped at a private clinic and pay hundreds out of pocket to feel like they are getting concierge level service, and to get scheduled asap, without being on a wait list . Most of the “care package” is useless stuff.
 

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Is it really that the women lose interest or could be the men use that as an excuse ?

Most men will get bored of the same steak dinner every night ....
 

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I would wonder why mature women will date younger guys who are always looking for sex.
My sister explained it to me. They (younger men) are referred to as 'energizer bunnies' - they just keep going and going.

Interesting that the same question is posed by women about men.
 

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I agree with many / actually pretty much all of your points about women’s health, however I think you might be mistaken about pre and post vasectomy pain relief. For me sedation=none, no anxiety meds, local anesthesia, which was fine until doc says “I’m frying your vas” , felt a bit like my left nut was being pulled to my knee, while getting kicked in the solar plexus, severely unpleasant, but mostly brief. Post op pain relief is Tylenol/ Advil grabbed from shoppers on the way home and an ice pack. Back to work the next day (thankfully tho was doing mostly desk work, so I could ice my nards while working on the computer).

Now, I actually feel that all of the above was entirely appropriate given the reasonably expected, pretty unpleasant, yet temporary pain lasting (and gradually declining) for a week of so after. But no sedation, no “care package” . The guys that get the “care package” get snipped at a private clinic and pay hundreds out of pocket to feel like they are getting concierge level service, and to get scheduled asap, without being on a wait list . Most of the “care package” is useless stuff.
Thanks for sharing.

I can see the private sector being different.

I will say that at least you got a local. We don’t even get that.

And for childbirth, while we are stitched from vag to ass, we still only get the same Tylenol from shoppers. LOL
 
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Thanks for sharing.

I can see the private sector being different.

I will say that at least you got a local. We don’t even get that.

And for childbirth, while we are stitched from vag to ass, we still only get the same Tylenol from shoppers. LOL
To be very clear, I’m not trying at all to equate vasectomy with IUD insertion or childbirth. That’s just apples and oranges (or in the case of childbirth, watermelons, lol). Just clarifying that most vasectomies done outside private clinics have very few “man pain” comforts and perks.

While local anesthesia hasn’t been common for IUDs I suspect it will, there is a lot of talk about this, and I think as a result major medical guidelines will change, hopefully.

As for Tylenol for post childbirth/ sutures/ episiotomy pain, might be better than hydromorph or percs, which will make you constipated af, which I can only imagine would be uniquely unpleasant after being stitched from vag to ass. 😳
 

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To be very clear, I’m not trying at all to equate vasectomy with IUD insertion or childbirth. That’s just apples and oranges (or in the case of childbirth, watermelons, lol). Just clarifying that most vasectomies done outside private clinics have very few “man pain” comforts and perks.

While local anesthesia hasn’t been common for IUDs I suspect it will, there is a lot of talk about this, and I think as a result major medical guidelines will change, hopefully.
Hopefully. It will still take along time. The older generation of doctors kinda need to kick off first to be honest.
 
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Hey guys,

So after talking with many SD's it seems one of the reasons for them getting into Sugar dating in the first place was because their wives and/long term partners stopped being interested in having sex.

Meanwhile, they themselves kept their interest high. Hence this discrepancy. On one hand the men kept wanting to have sex while their wives weren't interested anymore. I wonder how common or uncommon is this situation.

I assume this situation might be similar to married guys who get into escorts.

What do you think?
Yes women lose interest due to hormones, age, lack of courage and honesty in what they actually like sexually and also use sex as a tool to get what they want. Cheers
 

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I watched these two video earlier in the day.
It has good points.


 

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Hey guys,

So after talking with many SD's it seems one of the reasons for them getting into Sugar dating in the first place was because their wives and/long term partners stopped being interested in having sex.

Meanwhile, they themselves kept their interest high. Hence this discrepancy. On one hand the men kept wanting to have sex while their wives weren't interested anymore. I wonder how common or uncommon is this situation.

I assume this situation might be similar to married guys who get into escorts.

What do you think?
I think we don't lose interest in sex. We lose interest in him or vice versa. It's a big commitment to get married. You have to spice things up and thrive to be the best version of yourself for each other. Thing is tho not everyone resort into cheating when problem arise. Constantly blaming your partner for your actions is of bad taste to say the least. Be real.
 
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I think we don't lose interest in sex. We lose interest in him or vice versa. It's a big commitment to get married. You have to spice things up and thrive to be the best version of yourself for each other. Thing is tho not everyone resort into cheating when problem arise. Constantly blaming your partner for your actions is of bad taste to say the least. Be real.
I think some / many women definitely lose interest in sex, that and money are probably the things couples fight most about. And 90% of the time the guy is the one who wants more sex (I think a good chunk of this is biology), and the woman wants less. I’d guess It’s probably 50-75% of the reason the sex industry exists.

I think you are right, it’s in bad taste to blame your partner for all of the issues and not reflect on yourself and your actions, afterall one can control one’s own actions/ behaviour, but it’s much more difficult to change another’s. And you are right, there are probably many situations where one partner gets tired of the other, and /or stops making an effort. But it can be a viscous cycle Eg when you make an effort, to be generous, romantic, considerate, kind, try to spice things up, stay healthy and in shape, and it is ignored, not appreciated or taken for granted, it then makes the person not want to make those efforts any more. It does take two to tango. In a monogamous intimate relationship there is a responsibility to be faithful to that person, but there also is a commitment / responsibility to be interested and try to understand and help meet your partner’s emotional and physical wants and needs. In fact many traditional wedding vows make reference to this “to have and to hold” and “keeping unto each other”, not just “forsaking all others”.
 
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I’m sorry. That sucks. Kind of a fault but kinda not. Society has you guys believing what you do. If society as a whole was more supportive to women’s health and promoting it and education about it, a lot of couples would probably still be together.

I mean there are plenty of men who think a woman only uses one tampon her whole cycle or that she can’t pee with a tampon in.

Now I get that women themselves don’t necessarily pay attention in the male reproductive section of sex ed but ….. society has a whole and in the medical field mens health is taken a little more seriously. Evidence alone is in the fact that most medications, most testing, etc is/was done on white males over women and a POC. When we present symptomatically different, and have different ailments that affect us.

So yes - accept some responsibility but understand, you can only really do what you are taught as well because that is all you will know about.
Omg. Who do you hang out with.
 

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Yes to both sides. The videos I linked to refer to this.

But there is one more I believe but the videos don't cover it.

Either side had great times with other people, once they marry they stop sex because the previous partner memories / escapades were so great they don't want it ruin by the new partner. SO new partner gets screwed.
 

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I think some / many women definitely lose interest in sex, that and money are probably the things couples fight most about. And 90% of the time the guy is the one who wants more sex (I think a good chunk of this is biology), and the woman wants less. I’d guess It’s probably 50-75% of the reason the sex industry exists.

I think you are right, it’s in bad taste to blame your partner for all of the issues and not reflect on yourself and your actions, afterall one can control one’s own actions/ behaviour, but it’s much more difficult to change another’s. And you are right, there are probably many situations where one partner gets tired of the other, and /or stops making an effort. But it can be a viscous cycle Eg when you make an effort, to be generous, romantic, considerate, kind, try to spice things up, stay healthy and in shape, and it is ignored, not appreciated or taken for granted, it then makes the person not want to make those efforts any more. It does take two to tango. In a monogamous intimate relationship there is a responsibility to be faithful to that person, but there also is a commitment / responsibility to be interested and try to understand and help meet your partner’s emotional and physical wants and needs. In fact many traditional wedding vows make reference to this “to have and to hold” and “keeping unto each other”, not just “forsaking all others”.
If you really try to fix your marriage, I doubt that you will be the type of guy that just blame her and cheat non stop. And in the OP's case we are talking about SD/Sb transaction which is a lot deeper than just seeing escorts. It's almost like a whole other relationship on the side. Just leave your wife at this stage.
 
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If you really try to fix your marriage, I doubt that you will be the type of guy that just blame her and cheat non stop. And in the OP's case we are talking about SD/Sb transaction which is a lot deeper than just seeing escorts. It's almost like a whole other relationship on the side. Just leave your wife at this stage.
If a guy tries everything he can think of to improve things, and there is no effort on the other side, he may just be the type of guy that says fuck it and turns to cheating / or SBs (not that I’m saying this is right, but can see how it can happen). And for many, “just leaving” is not as straightforward as it sounds.
 

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If they didn't lose interest, and everybody's sex life was wonderful, there would be no need for escorts, sugar babies, strip clubs, and pretty much this website you're writing on. "Some" would be an understatement. The real question I find myself repeating is why? Why is it that on average women lose interest, especially after having kids. This may be more biological than anything else, but if you can accept this as fact, you will be less disappointed with your partners.
 
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If a guy tries everything he can think of to improve things, and there is no effort on the other side, he may just be the type of guy that says fuck it and turns to cheating / or SBs (not that I’m saying this is right, but can see how it can happen). And for many, “just leaving” is not as straightforward as it sounds.
I am sorry for not being more empathetic about it. I just find the op's statement redundant and don't understand why we people have to have sex so much.

People are so indoctrinate with the idea that you have to get married, you have to get children, you have to buy a house, a golden retriever and a cottage in Muskoka to be happy that they forget what actually makes them happy and people get hurt in the process. People will give up on their life for money or because they think their children couldn't handle a divorce. Newsflash, everyone divorce nowadays. What is the real cost of being miserable all your life tho? More than a divorce me think.
 
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I am sorry for not being more empathetic about it. I just find the op's statement redundant and don't understand why we people have to have sex so much.
To provide you with meaningful employment, obviously.
As to the original question.
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