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Frankfooter

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I might tend to agree with you about Fox News, but there is a lot of misinformation to go around and lefties who believe it. Our very own Beav keeps noting Trump was convicted for sexual assault. He might know the facts, but in that case he clearly thinks there is an audience for misinformation. (I think he posted this several times on different threads yesterday.)
The correct description is that rump is an adjudicated rapist, that a judge and jury believed he raped Carroll and the correct legal term to describe rump is that he is a rapist.

That's been discussed repeatedly.
 

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The MAGA’s are heading towards borderline minority status. There are more registered Democratic voters than Republicans ones and if all the Dems show up on election day, Trump will be free to do a lot more golfing afterwards.
It most likely will get very very ugly if Trump loses again and incites another January 6 insurrection or worse as he has strongly implied that he will not accept anything other than victory. Ultimately Trump will leave the GOP smouldering in ruins sooner or latter.
 

silentkisser

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I tend to agree with you about Fox News, but there is a lot of misinformation to go around and lefties who believe it. Our very own Beav keeps noting Trump was convicted for sexual assault. He might know the facts, but in that case he clearly thinks there is an audience for misinformation. (I think he posted this several times on different threads yesterday.)

I could also say Donald Trump or his family were never found to be doing anything illegal with the Russians. That doesn't stop a lot of conspiracy talk on the left. How many people believed Hunter's laptop was a fake planted by the Russians?

Remember with all the consternation over Fox News, the network only reaches 3 million people every night. I would suggest undo focus on Fox News is in itself propaganda.
I agree with your point: Trump was not convicted for sexual assault.
However, the Russian stuff....Trump and his cronies obstructed that investigation so much that we really don't know. He refused to be interviewed by Mueller's team, he claimed executive privilege for anything related to this investigation, and had his people refuse to cooperate. While he might legit be not guilty of that, his actions were not those of an innocent man with nothing to hide. Compare and contrast how Biden acted for the classified documents he mistakenly took as VP. He sat for hours with the special prosecutor -- because he had nothing to hide....

As for Hunter's laptop: A few things.
First, the NY Post ran the story...but only after several other right-wing publications passed on it. In fact, the actual writer refused the byline. Why? Well, even they were skeptical about what this information was and how it was obtained. The whole story around it was, to say the least, suspicious. Deny that all you want, but if it was a legit story, why didn't the Wall Street Journal (which was originally give the info) refuse to break it?
Second, even at this writing, a lot of the info on the laptop has not been proven true. Sure, some has. But we don't know if everything was legit or was planted. Is it outside the realm of possibilities that Russia has some involvement? We know they helped Trump in 2016.

Finally, for Fox, they have the most viewers of any of the news channels. So, that is very influential. It isn't propaganda to focus and report on what they are or are not doing. I mean, the argument could be made that they are more moderate than NewsMax or OAN, but not by that much. And, remember, they paid around three-quarters of a billion dollars to settle with Dominion, because they knowingly lied about the company. That is a massive amount of money. If they went to trial and lost....it would have likely been even larger.
 
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WyattEarp

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I agree with your point: Trump was not convicted for sexual assault.
However, the Russian stuff....Trump and his cronies obstructed that investigation so much that we really don't know. He refused to be interviewed by Mueller's team, he claimed executive privilege for anything related to this investigation, and had his people refuse to cooperate. While he might legit be not guilty of that, his actions were not those of an innocent man with nothing to hide. Compare and contrast how Biden acted for the classified documents he mistakenly took as VP. He sat for hours with the special prosecutor -- because he had nothing to hide....

As for Hunter's laptop: A few things.
First, the NY Post ran the story...but only after several other right-wing publications passed on it. In fact, the actual writer refused the byline. Why? Well, even they were skeptical about what this information was and how it was obtained. The whole story around it was, to say the least, suspicious. Deny that all you want, but if it was a legit story, why didn't the Wall Street Journal (which was originally give the info) refuse to break it?
Second, even at this writing, a lot of the info on the laptop has not been proven true. Sure, some has. But we don't know if everything was legit or was planted. Is it outside the realm of possibilities that Russia has some involvement? We know they helped Trump in 2016.

Finally, for Fox, they have the most viewers of any of the news channels. So, that is very influential. It isn't propaganda to focus and report on what they are or are not doing. I mean, the argument could be made that they are more moderate than NewsMax or OAN, but not by that much. And, remember, they paid around three-quarters of a billion dollars to settle with Dominion, because they knowingly lied about the company. That is a massive amount of money. If they went to trial and lost....it would have likely been even larger.
I don't think you understand the U.S. news market. TV news is provided by Fox, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS and then some ancillary players. That doesn't count print. So even some liberals here have pointed out, Fox News might have the largest audience but that is in a fragmented market.

Fox News also seems to receives a lot of attention and hostility because their commentators frequently mock other news outlets for biased coverage. So the partisan nature of cable news is amplified. "How dare they" one might say.

In closing, I will say the 2020 U.S. Presidential election was not stolen..............but, but, but what about........in short, no caveats. See what a correct factual answer looks like.
 
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America's a great country where someone with a criminal past can pick themselves up and run for President.
Shows what a bunch of blind cult followers just worship this felon. If someone with criminal standing makes a Nation "great", then only the right wing loonies would believe this myth!!
 

bver_hunter

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I tend to agree with you about Fox News, but there is a lot of misinformation to go around and lefties who believe it. Our very own Beav keeps noting Trump was convicted for sexual assault. He might know the facts, but in that case he clearly thinks there is an audience for misinformation. (I think he posted this several times on different threads yesterday.)

I could also say Donald Trump or his family were never found to be doing anything illegal with the Russians. That doesn't stop a lot of conspiracy talk on the left. How many people believed Hunter's laptop was a fake planted by the Russians?

Remember with all the consternation over Fox News, the network only reaches 3 million people every night. I would suggest undo focus on Fox News is in itself propaganda.
Was Trump not convicted for sexual assault against E. Jeanne Carroll? Was he not convicted of those 34 felons?
Only the righties think that all this is a "hoax", just because their cult leader spews that message on a constant basis!!
Did Trump not plead with the Russians to find all those Hillary Clinton emails?
By the way, there are righties who believe Fox News as it is a mouth piece for Trump from the likes of Hannity, Watters, Ingraham Angle and the list goes on and on!!
 

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Was Trump not convicted for sexual assault against E. Jeanne Carroll? Was he not convicted of those 34 felons?
Only the righties think that all this is a "hoax", just because their cult leader spews that message on a constant basis!!
Did Trump not plead with the Russians to find all those Hillary Clinton emails?
By the way, there are righties who believe Fox News as it is a mouth piece for Trump from the likes of Hannity, Watters, Ingraham Angle and the list goes on and on!!
When the Trump show comes to an end, and it will very soon, the cult members will be hit with a very Armageddon like reality of their own making.
 
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Trump thinks that Tim Walz is running for President.
Also he has evidence that Kamala Harris went to Russia 3 days before Putin started the war on Ukraine.......... 😄 😁😆😂🤣

 

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Some more crap spewed from Trump's nostrils that even Fox News had to cut him out and even fact check his statements of California.
Then Trump attack Congo. Ohhh dear is this what the righties want as their President:

 

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Oh my Maya.........Maya Harris got some good genes. She looks great for 57.
 
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She didn’t mention China, she didn’t mention fracking, she didn’t mention Energy, she didn’t mention, meaningfully, Russia and Ukraine, she didn’t mention the big subjects of the day, that are destroying our Country. There are 60 million people in poverty in the U.S., under their watch, and she doesn’t even talk about them! Donald Trump Truth Social 11:12 PM EST 08/22/24
 

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Tucker Carlson Reacts to Kamala's Speech: “This Woman‘s Really Scary” “She's much more skillful than I have ever seen. She's a liar on the deepest level. The things she is saying right now are not just untrue—they're the opposite of the truth, which is the hallmark of evil. She's an extremist. She'll say anything. She's much more like Gavin Newsom than I ever realized. I could go through a whole litany of what she's saying that is not true.”
 
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