Get ready Kamala fans...this is just the beginning

WyattEarp

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Yes...Unfortunately for him this will hurt him significantly. He's not nimble enough to walk through the minefields that he steers himself into.
He should tighten it up some. However, the liberal media will always look for some word or phrase to blow up out of context. Most Americans who will consider voting him are used to his verbosity.

Remember the "bloodbath" if you elect Biden. The liberal media tried but didn't make much of a dent. Of course, Trump was addressing Chinese EVs swamping the U.S. auto market.
 

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Did Michelle Obama just say Democrats need to make sure every voter is registered and has a voting plan?
WTF does she mean by make sure they have a voting plan? 😲
It's the usual doom/gloom tactic...like telling people to prepare for a hurricane.
Sadly, the only strategy the Dems have is hoping they can smear Trump enough. No substance they can offer as far as a platform, policies, etc.

And here's why...

If they stick with Biden's trajectory as far as policies, people have seen it fall apart over the last 4 years and don't want another 4 years of of that.
If they come up with new policies, people will say WTF? You stage a coup and shove aside Biden and now want to reverse what they were trying to get people to support a month ago?

So this is why the only thing they have left is to have Kamala preach about feel good sentiments to hide the fact they have no platform.

ie why put forward a sketchy platform when you can use photo ops at record stores to show you like black artists?
 
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WyattEarp

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So this is why the only thing they have left is to have Kamala preach about feel good sentiments to hide the fact they have no platform.
I actually think Kamala has gotten bolder with her policy pronouncements. I just don't agree with her Government First approach to solving problems like inflation and housing.
 

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Rebranded his Trump Tower Hotel in Toronto.......LOL!!
Whoa there’s so much more to it than that. He was in that project together with a Russian/ukrainian oligarch. There were lawsuits associated with it. I’ll find a link in a moment. But basically another fraud which was just on the line and not prosecutable, so just a “smart business”.

edit - here’s the link
Piece of shit orange face fraudster
 
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Yes, but those are usually the internal polls by the campaign themselves.

I am not saying never report on polls.
I am saying focusing on polls and obsessing over every shift still within the margin of error is bad journalism.
These are polls sponsored and financed by the various media. Rarely do we hear about internal polls from the campaigns itself.
For sure the campaigns pay close attention to the polls, and accordingly structure their various platforms that are designed to attract certain crucial sections of the population.
 
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A little grounding for both sides. Still tied.
Strangely, Newsweek seems to be running overly-dramatic and conflicting headlines on polls every day. I don't think there is much real journalism being done there, but people still remember the name.
 
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Strangely, Newsweek seems to be running overly-dramatic and conflicting headlines on polls every day. I don't think there is much real journalism being done there, but people still remember the name.
All depends on where you look right now.

 

Valcazar

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The inflation deflection is not a great look for her. Just a lot of pandering and posturing. I don't think it really helps her.
We will see.
I doubt either of us is representative of the general public.

Americans know if the govt. prints excessive amounts of money prices go up. Businesses see more demand in nominal dollars. It was a systemic process across the world. The price increases go all through the supply chain to the basic commodity prices. More dollars chasing the same amount of goods.
Americans (people in general, really) have shown very little understanding of what controls prices.

Yes, they immediately framed it as "price controls".
Her team probably should have anticipated that and been more prepared.

There might be price-gouging laws on the books, but they are likely never enforced because they rarely make sense.
"Likely".
So you don't know, you're just guessing.
 

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That's classic projection. Repugs are always going to claim libs are stupid...
Projection? Nope, fact.

There have been several studies that show Fox News viewers are significantly less informed than those who get other sources of information. In 2008, there was a study that showed something like 80% of them believed there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, something we know was never found and untrue. But, things with Fox have gotten measurably worse since then, so much so that a crazy number of their viewers still believe the 2020 election was stolen, even though there are no credible facts showing this.

I would love to see a credible study showing how lefties are that ill-informed or gullible.
 
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Valcazar

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Are we pushing this idea that the media is conservative again?
Not pushing.
Stating.

It doesn't make sense when journalists' and their managers' campaign donations are tracked. Seems like a fair metric to most of us.
It makes sense when you look at what they actually do.
This

Perhaps the media in general doesn't support Bernie Sanders' or a pure progressive platform. However, the media does not support Republicans. They almost have to be shamed into covering topics and issues that favor the Republicans. As in that issue ain't going away, so maybe we need to give that story airtime or print.
This is completely wrong.

Even last night's convention media interviews were more friendly and convivial than Milwaukee. I expect journalists in attendance to have big smiles on their faces all week while they lob softballs at Democratic leaders.
Oh, reporters tend to be more pro-Democrat.
The media is pro-Republican.

Here's a simple a way of explaining it.


There was a big bump in the preceding two plus weeks leading to the Republican convention. Kamala has had a great couple weeks leading up to the Democratic convention. We will see if she can make further progress in polls. Clearly unless someone doesn't something really stupid, Trump and Harris are fighting over a shrinking middle. (Both candidates in my opinion have a propensity to do stupid things. I will say Trump has a higher propensity, but he is also the known commodity in the race.)
Like I said, I expect it to be tight.
I do think there will be a bit more of a DNC bounce, but like most bounces, it will regress back.
Given the debate is the 10th, the DNC bounce should have faded by then, so if anything the storyline will be about Trump gaining momentum going into the debate.
 

Valcazar

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Valcazar is either intentionally propagating a lie, or he's never actually spoken with many, or perhaps any, journalists. It usually takes less than 10 minutes for the vast majority of them to tell you clearly that they favour left leaning policies and politicians.
They are.
But the media favors the GOP.

It's a hopeless argument for him, because anyone who watches a wide spectrum of platforms believes their own eyes and ears over any convoluted counterargument.
You've never let what you see and hear change what you believe about what you are seeing and hearing.
I am not expecting any different now.
 

Valcazar

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I believe Valcazar spends a lot of time in an academic environment.
Not anymore.
I did in the past.

Similarly, I have progressive friends that thought the Obama Presidency was a wasted opportunity. Obviously, most of American media gushed over him.
You were under the impression the American media gushed over Obama?
 

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Fox has this loser Dem host named Jessica Tarlov. There goes your Fox hypothesis......LMAO I wish Fox would fire Jessica Tarlov!!

I think that sort of proves my point...You would want to fire the one person who pushes back against the right-wing/GOP fever swamp play book. Someone who brings in facts that fuck up the other hosts feelings. Tarlov, it should be pointed out, is not a sycophant like all the other fox hosts. She ain't kissing Biden's or Harris' ass in the hopes she can parlay that into her own show or a place in the administration. She is frequently the only reasonable voice on the opinion side of things.
 
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WyattEarp

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We will see.
I doubt either of us is representative of the general public.

Americans (people in general, really) have shown very little understanding of what controls prices.
It doesn't really matter what the American voter in the middle thinks of price controls, price gouging whatever. Fair or unfair, these voters have a tendency to blame whoever is in the White House for inflation, unemployment, etc. We all saw employment numbers were revised down for April 2023-March 2024.

The economy is okay, but the direction is pointing to a weaker scenario. I suspect weaker data now until the election. It will be interesting to see if Kamala can separate herself from the Biden Administration.

"Likely".
So you don't know, you're just guessing.
Nope, I wasn't exactly guessing. I did a couple searches. Some one-off govt. lawsuits for gas stations price gouging during a hurricanes and EpiPen. Nothing directed at an entire industry or category.

I'm all for evaluating overconsolidation in certain industries. When prices across all categories are significantly higher and were stable for many years before the printing press was turned loose, I don't think consolidation is the problem. What the U.S. has had is called systemic inflation.
 
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