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Ukraine’s offensive derails secret efforts for partial cease-fire with Russia, officials say

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Why would that derail the negotiations described? Russians are just being obstinate and stupid...
I guess the incursion into Russia is Zelensky's way of saying this
to his backers in the west"

"...Russia is invading us and we are invading into their territories in
return to safeguard your security in the future. Please grant us NATO
membership asap and allow us to join EU as well. We also need more
money sent to us immediately please
..."

Putin was pissed off seeing how hellbent Ukraine is to become
a part of the west and hence withdraw from the negotiations.
 
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"The warring countries were set to hold indirect talks in Qatar on an agreement to halt strikes on energy and power infrastructure, according to officials."

Fuck that shit, If you are going to have a war, go hard and try to finish it up as soon as possible.

I am reminded of this scene


Ronald Kray : [Notices a weapon held by one of the mob] What is that?
Mike Jobber : Yeah what do you think, poof? It's a fucking tool
Ronald Kray : No it's not it's a fucking rolling pin. What are you, Fanny Craddock? What are you doing with that? Gonna bake me a cake? Sing me a song whilst I blow out me fucking candles?
Ronald Kray : [Lifts jacket, mimicking two guns in his pockets] I come here for a fucking shootout. A proper shootout with some proper men. Like Colonel Custer and Geronimo, you ever heard of them? No. Cause you're too busy in your pinny baking fucking fairy cakes, weren't ya?
Ronald Kray : [Turns to Reggie] Reg. This lot are fucking nonces to a man, they're fucking nonces. Get out of me fucking way, go on, get out, go on, fuck off. Call yourself a fucking gangster.
Ronald Kray : [Turns round angrily before walking out of the pub in a rage] A SHOOTOUT, RIGHT, IS A FUCKING SHOOTOUT! Like a western. WANKERS! Fucking embarrassing, waste of my time. FUCKING waste of my time!

[Ronald leaves the bar and then comes in from behind and starts cracking skulls with a pair of hammers.



I guess the incursion into Russia is Zelensky's way of saying this
to his backers in the west"

"...Russia is invading us and we are invading into their territories in
return to safeguard your security in the future. Please grant us NATO
membership asap and allow us to join EU as well. We also need more
money sent to us immediately please
..."

Putin was pissed off seeing how hellbent Ukraine is to become
a part of the west and hence withdraw from the negotiations.
Living in a world of pure imagination I see. Attacking into Russia does nothing to hasten entry into NATO, if you know anything about the issues of letting Ukraine into NATO... but bah, who needs knowledge and facts to go on on the internet.
 

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I guess the incursion into Russia is Zelensky's way of saying this
to his backers in the west"

"...Russia is invading us and we are invading into their territories in
return to safeguard your security in the future. Please grant us NATO
membership asap and allow us to join EU as well. We also need more
money sent to us immediately please
..."

Putin was pissed off seeing how hellbent Ukraine is to become
a part of the west and hence withdraw from the negotiations.

WTF are you saying? In fact, WTF are you ever saying? You suck and blow... and shart and fart pure bullshit nonsense.

Have you also been suckered into buying those $5 flip flops for $1,600 in Saudi Arabia?



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I guess the incursion into Russia is Zelensky's way of saying this
to his backers in the west"

"...Russia is invading us and we are invading into their territories in
return to safeguard your security in the future. Please grant us NATO
membership asap and allow us to join EU as well. We also need more
money sent to us immediately please
..."

Putin was pissed off seeing how hellbent Ukraine is to become
a part of the west and hence withdraw from the negotiations.
Like he was ever serious about negotiations in the first place :rolleyes: ...
 

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Putin is already in deeper shit than you can imagine. He
likely wants to end the war more badly than Zelensky.
Well that’s easy.

Announce a ceasefire and orderly withdrawal.

They can keep the washing machines.
 

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Well that’s easy.

Announce a ceasefire and orderly withdrawal.

They can keep the washing machines.
They have to give back the toilets though. Just on principle!
 

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Putin is already in deeper shit than you can imagine. He
likely wants to end the war more badly than Zelensky.
You are not paying attention to anything else than Western propaganda. So far Russia has only executed an SMO, not a war. That will likely change as a result of the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk.
 

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This incursion into Russia puts Zelensky in a stronger bargaining position…but I’m not sure the Ukrainians are interested in bargaining at this point either. They want their land back and they are willing to not just keep fighting for it but to aggressively take the fight to Putin.

This incursion has weakened Putin. It’s too big for the Putin to cover up. The Russian troops were poorly equipped and not particularly interested in fighting. The Ukrainians won’t be able to hold this position indefinitely; they will eventually have to, retreat but psychologically the damage has been done- this is the first incursion into Russian territory by a foreign army since WWII and it happened on Putin’s watch.
 
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You are not paying attention to anything else than Western propaganda. So far Russia has only executed an SMO, not a war. That will likely change as a result of the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk.
Danny, Russia has sustained over 1/2 million casualties in its "non-war".... Just sayin', buddy.
 

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You are not paying attention to anything else than Western propaganda. So far Russia has only executed an SMO, not a war. That will likely change as a result of the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk.
LOL…SURE.

Zelensky has really done it now. He has just made Putin super-duper mad!!!

🤣🤣🤣
 
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This incursion into Russia puts Zelensky in a stronger bargaining position…but I’m not sure the Ukrainians are interested in bargaining at this point either. They want their land back and they are willing to not just keep fighting for it but to aggressively take the fight to Putin.

This incursion has weakened Putin. It’s too big for the Putin to cover up. The Russian troops were poorly equipped and not particularly interested in fighting. The Ukrainians won’t be able to hold this position indefinitely; they will eventually have to, retreat but psychologically the damage has been done- this is the first incursion into Russian territory by a foreign army since WWII and it happened on Putin’s watch.
Russian sources say Ukraine has hit all three bridges over the Seym River
Attacks could potentially trap Russian forces caught between river, Ukraine and its forces in Kursk


Looks like they might be there a while longer. They've pocketed a Russian brigade!
 

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Isn’t there a lawyer joke about loving clients who want to sue “on principle”?

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Principles are 1 thing. Stolen toilets are quite another.

Zelensky's going to get every last one of those porcelain vessels back into its rightful hands - or asses, as the case may be!

The Russians are going to have to wash their faces in wooden troughs again! 🚽🚽🚽
 
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You are not paying attention to anything else than Western propaganda. So far Russia has only executed an SMO, not a war. That will likely change as a result of the Ukrainian incursion into Kursk.
Oh mer ghad, don't tell me that danmand is crapping on people for listening to Western propaganda and he is actually buying that it is a special military operation and not a war.

Lard tunderen Jasus buddy.
 

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Russian sources say Ukraine has hit all three bridges over the Seym River
Attacks could potentially trap Russian forces caught between river, Ukraine and its forces in Kursk
I wonder how bit the river is. I remember once seeing a river on the map between NB and NS and thinking, jeez NS is almost an island, then I drove past it and, it barely qualifies as a ditch.

I am more asking, I don't know.
 
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