Ukraine’s offensive derails secret efforts for partial cease-fire with Russia, officials say

[basketcase]

Who wants to end the war? Maybe the objective of the sponsor of this incursion
is to prolong the war.

The price to pay for the success of the incursion will be hefty. Just
wait till winter and you will see how morale of Ukraine's civilians and
troops is to be boosted by the impact of damages to be inflicted on
Ukraine's infrastructures.

It's sad you refuse to use the same standards when discussing Russia's invasion. Again, that was the cause of the conflict, not Ukraine daring to oppose the invasion.

 

[basketcase]

Totally wrong.
Russia was already...

Sorry but which side of the Ukrainian/Russia conflict has recently hosted Hamas?

But yes, Russia was sending fighters to attack Ukraine well in advance, just like Palestinian leaders sent people to attack Jews for over 100 years.

 

[oil&gas]

As opposed to the residents of Avdivka who saw Soviet made T-80's attacking their village?

My understanding is that invasion into Ukraine doesn't have
that element of surprise. By the same reasoning I presume it
is the Germans in Cologne who were more shocked by the
allies' first bombing raid than British civilians in the Battle of
Britian.

It's sad you refuse to use the same standards when discussing Russia's invasion. Again, that was the cause of the conflict, not Ukraine daring to oppose the invasion.

Don't know what standard you are talking about. I don't feel sad at
all trying to understand the ongoing war using my common sense.
My understanding is one side invaded the other side in this war.
Defenders counterattacked and managed to surprise the invaders
by pulling off a counter-invasion. I expect there will be consequence to
the counter-invasion. What do you think the right response to Germany's
counter-invasion into Belgium in the Battle of the Bulge should have
been?