Tim Walz Drunk Driving charges and Lies

[Leimonis]

It's pure desperation mode at this time. They have absolutely nothing to campaign on. As if people are going to vote for a convicted felon who was proven in court to be a sexual predator and fraudster who is also up on nearly 60 more felonies. Trying to play that card is idiocy, but so is having a leader with the worst jobs record in 80 years, 91 felonies and being found in court to have committed sexual battery and several frauds. It's like comparing somebody who got caught excessively speeding with Jeffrey dahlmer

They should be campaigning on Harris being a Marxist with her equality of outcomes commie bullshit.

 

[mitchell76]

 

[K Douglas]

Butler 1000, do you forgive Scott Moe for committing vehicular manslaughter?

Fact: Moe didn't commit vehicular manslaughter. He was cited for a traffic violation in the fatal accident. No criminal charge was filed.
He also had one DUI conviction when he was 18.

 

[Valcazar]

Details are clear. Dui, reckless driving. Pled guilty. No re occurance. Came back up when he ran for Congress. Lies about it. Comes up again, with receipts when he runs for Governor. This time has to own it. Still gets elected. Now on the national stage, has to own it for a new batch of voters.

So he owns, makes a clear statement of doing so, adds to his sober "Narrative" (Because Dems have those too!) And moves on.

Doing anything else, whether cover up, or not being clear, says to people maybe he isn't as sorry as he claims.

Which isn't good for credibility, is it?

That is the pitch you and the GOP are going to go with, yes.
"He only admitted it when he got caught, and is obviously a lying liar who lies."

Like I said, I don't expect it to work.
Redemption arcs sell well, and since Walz comes across as vastly more honest and sincere than the people attacking him, he's probably fine.

They couldn't make "stolen valor" stick, which is something people actually care about. (The US is a very pro-military society.)
"He lied about his drinking back in the day" doesn't seem likely to get very far.

 

[Valcazar]

It's pure desperation mode at this time.

My entire post is how I don't think this will hurt him and Butler goes "Do you think he is that weak a candidate?"
Dear lord he's thick.

They have absolutely nothing to campaign on. As if people are going to vote for a convicted felon who was proven in court to be a sexual predator and fraudster who is also up on nearly 60 more felonies. Trying to play that card is idiocy, but so is having a leader with the worst jobs record in 80 years, 91 felonies and being found in court to have committed sexual battery and several frauds. It's like comparing somebody who got caught excessively speeding with Jeffrey dahlmer

Oh, people will absolutely vote for a convicted felon.
Millions of them will.
They like what he is offering - either on its own or just in comparison with the Democrats.

But you can really see how desperately they are scrambling right now.
I do find it interesting that they seem to have decided Walz is coming across very sincere and a decent guy, so they are seem to be trying for "It's all an ACT! He's nothing like that and in fact is a lying liar who lies! It's all a smoke screen, made up image."

 

[Valcazar]

By 2020 bill Barrs lie became a gods honest truth to the unwashed masses and Trump would with his trade mark impudence repeatedly use “Russia Russia Russia” as an example of bullshit persecution and witch-hunt.
again, 9 out of 10 conservatives don’t believe in that obstruction to this day

After the release of the redacted report on April 18, 2019, Barr's letter was criticized as a deliberate mischaracterization of the Mueller Report and its conclusions, and as an attempt at spinning the media narrative to undermine Mueller's investigation.[2][3] In March 2020, a federal judge sharply criticized Barr's characterizations and ordered the Justice Department to provide him the redacted portions from the public version of the report so he could determine if they were justified.

You forget who you are talking to.
Butler thinks "The GOP is better at lying and controlling the media narrative" is why they should be in charge.
It's more important than facts or policy and (more to the point) that's the way it should be.

How is a VP candidate who drove drunk 30 years ago different from a presidential candidate who has been criming all his life (and not misdemeanour DUIs but frauds annd sex assaults) and lately has also been sucking Putin’s cock in public on multiple occasions?

They are the same.
Both liars.
See how easy that is?

Degree doesn't matter.
It's just they are both not perfect, therefore they are both equally bad.

 

[kherg007]

I reckon its legit to bring this up, so no problem w butler raising it.

Yes, doesn't look good. But, compared to the alternative, this is small potatoes.

I think what irks is a media infrastructure that poo- poos sexual assault, multiple legal fraud findings, stolen documents, fomenting an overthrow of an election, 34 convicted felony offences, patent lies...suddenly seems so offended and horrified by a lie.

(BTW, GWB had a DUI, and misled about how serious it was).

 

[Butler1000]

That is the pitch you and the GOP are going to go with, yes.
"He only admitted it when he got caught, and is obviously a lying liar who lies."

Like I said, I don't expect it to work.
Redemption arcs sell well, and since Walz comes across as vastly more honest and sincere than the people attacking him, he's probably fine.

They couldn't make "stolen valor" stick, which is something people actually care about. (The US is a very pro-military society.)
"He lied about his drinking back in the day" doesn't seem likely to get very far.

Sure. Nothing wrong with reporting it though.

 

[Butler1000]

My entire post is how I don't think this will hurt him and Butler goes "Do you think he is that weak a candidate?"
Dear lord he's thick.



Oh, people will absolutely vote for a convicted felon.
Millions of them will.
They like what he is offering - either on its own or just in comparison with the Democrats.

But you can really see how desperately they are scrambling right now.
I do find it interesting that they seem to have decided Walz is coming across very sincere and a decent guy, so they are seem to be trying for "It's all an ACT! He's nothing like that and in fact is a lying liar who lies! It's all a smoke screen, made up image."

Whining about the posting makes me wonder. But then again any criticism of the Dems, no matter how valid, should never be allowed, according to you and others.

Ypu are so afraid of losing.

 

[NotADcotor]

Drunk Driving. Still never tried to overturn an election result, stage a coup and promise his followers they will never have to vote again.

Pretty small potatoes.

That is the choice. A bat shit crazy dumbass psychopath traitor. Or someone who drove drunk a while ago [as the stolen valor stuff has been debunked, that's pretty much it] or and vs someone who doesn't think his pres candidate is potentially an American Hitler.


I am not a fan of Harris, far from it on many levels, but again, that is the choice, and it is such a blindingly obvious one. It boggles me why Harris isn't up 60 40 or better in the polls.
Oh yeah

I have no idea who he is or what else he believes in, but in this section of the video he is god damn right.

 

[y2kmark]

My entire post is how I don't think this will hurt him and Butler goes "Do you think he is that weak a candidate?"
Dear lord he's thick.



Oh, people will absolutely vote for a convicted felon.
Millions of them will.
They like what he is offering - either on its own or just in comparison with the Democrats.

But you can really see how desperately they are scrambling right now.
I do find it interesting that they seem to have decided Walz is coming across very sincere and a decent guy, so they are seem to be trying for "It's all an ACT! He's nothing like that and in fact is a lying liar who lies! It's all a smoke screen, made up image."

Another crisis actor?

 

[y2kmark]

Whining about the posting makes me wonder. But then again any criticism of the Dems, no matter how valid, should never be allowed, according to you and others.

Ypu are so afraid of losing.

That's You to you. What makes you think I'm afraid of losing? I manged to make it through four long years of Farticus and suppose I could do it again. Don't think I'm going to need to this time around though. Just let Trump keep talking, and Vance...

 

[Butler1000]

That's You to you. What makes you think I'm afraid of losing? I manged to make it through four long years of Farticus and suppose I could do it again. Don't think I'm going to need to this time around though. Just let Trump keep talking, and Vance...

I was talking to Val......

As I said before YOU seem to be a bit more pragmatic about the faked up "existential crisis" rhetoric they gin up 24/7/365 over each party.

 

[bver_hunter]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/15/politics/tim-walz-2006-campaign-falsely-described-dwi-kfile/index.html

Can a DUI charge be forgiven? I think it can if it doesn't happen again. People make mistakes. But then his campaign lied about 10 years later, and actually blamed military injuries for it.

That imo is not taking accountability for your actions, and a bad sign.

I thought that CNN was "Fake news"!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Oops:

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The GOP Ohio Senate nominee’s investment in a biotech firm that does testing on live animals is raising questions about his true values

J.D. Vance Has a Burnt Monkey Testicle Problem

J.D. Vance's investment in a biotech firm that does testing on live animals is raising questions about the Ohio Senate candidate's true values.

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[SammyS]

I was talking to Val......

As I said before YOU seem to be a bit more pragmatic about the faked up "existential crisis" rhetoric they gin up 24/7/365 over each party.

^^^^^^^^^^
After browsing through this thread it obvious Butler gets off

saying the same thing
over and over and over again!!!
You made your point, move on.
Holy $hit!!!!

 

[Butler1000]

^^^^^^^^^^
After browsing through this thread it obvious Butler gets off

saying the same thing
over and over and over again!!!
You made your point, move on.
Holy $hit!!!!

Apparently I need to.

 

[Butler1000]

I thought that CNN was "Fake news"!!

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/08/13/must_watch_stephen_colbert_accidentally_gets_laughs_saying_cnn_is_objective.html

You decide......

 

[bver_hunter]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/08/13/must_watch_stephen_colbert_accidentally_gets_laughs_saying_cnn_is_objective.html

You decide......

You have to decide as you posted their revelation in this thread that you started......LOL!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Desperation times for the Trump Campaign. It is ruffling Vance's feathers:

"Fake polls": Vance downplays Harris rise


GOP vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance (R-OH) dismissed recent polling that shows Vice President Kamala Harris edging ahead of former President Trump, contending the "media uses fake polls" to hurt Republicans.
Why it matters: The polls aren't always accurate, but they certainly aren't fake. Nearly every major pollster has shown Harris surging, though the race remains very close in the key swing states.

Driving the news: Vice President Kamala Harris holds a 4-point lead over former President Trump in a head-to-head matchup among registered voters, according to new Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos polling.

• Among likely voters, Harris holds a 6-point lead, 51% to 45%.
• Independents swung from Trump +4 against President Biden in July to Harris +11 over Trump in August. One big reason: Democratic-leaning independents shifted from 77% supporting Biden to 92% backing Harris.
• CBS/YouGov polling also released on Sunday shows Harris leading Trump by a 3-point margin nationally. CBS' analysis shows the two in a dead heat across the key battleground states.

What they're saying: "ABC/Washington Post was a wildly inaccurate pollster in the summer of 2020," Vance said in an interview on "Fox News Sunday," adding he feels "extremely confident" the campaign will be "in the right place come November."

• He continued: "Consistently, what you've seen in 2016 and 2020 is that the media uses fake polls to drive down Republican turnout and to create dissension and conflict with Republican voters."
• Vance characterized Harris' early edge as a "sugar high," arguing internal campaign data shows she has "leveled off."
• "The Trump campaign is in a very, very good spot," he added. "We're going to win this race; we just have to run through the finish line."
• A Trump campaign spokesperson wouldn't say whether Vance believes pollsters are intentionally releasing inaccurate polls, but pointed Axios to a memo from Trump pollster Tony Fabrizio showing "corrected" numbers which account for the gap between the 2020 polls and final results. Fabrizio argues that the polls currently show a "phony lead" for Harris.

Reality check: Polling in 2016 and 2020 did often underestimate Trump nationally and in key battleground states.

• The ABC/WaPo poll showed Biden leading Trump by double digits throughout the summer of 2020, and up by 12 points just three weeks before election day. Biden won the popular vote by 4.5 points.
• Those polling fumbles have rocked public confidence in pre-election data, Axios' Ivana Saric reported.

State of play: A recent report from the nonpartisan Cook Political Report showed Harris snatching the lead in Arizona, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — states where Biden had been trailing before passing the baton to Harris.

Between the lines: Arguing "fake news" is not a new strategy for the Trump campaign — but some allies and advisers worry the former president isn't facing up to just how much the race has changed.

Go deeper: Behind the Curtain: Inside Trump's slump

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/18/vance-harris-election-polls-fake