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shack

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No, stop making stupid demands.
I know. It exposes your cowardice and your racism.

You want to blame Israel for absolutely everything in the middle east but are too afraid to say it.
You think every Israeli is a Zionist (whom you hate and want eliminated) but are too afraid to say it.
You know that Oct.7 initiated the current war in Gaza and resulting deaths and was a stupid move but are too afraid to say it.
You support terrorism against Jews but are too afraid to say it.

Tell us which middle east problems are not Israel's fault. Are the Iranian religious/morality policies Israel's fault, Geno?
 

Frankfooter

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I know. It exposes your cowardice and your racism.

You want to blame Israel for absolutely everything in the middle east but are too afraid to say it.
You think every Israeli is a Zionist (whom you hate and want eliminated) but are too afraid to say it.
You know that Oct.7 initiated the current war in Gaza and resulting deaths and was a stupid move but are too afraid to say it.
You support terrorism against Jews but are too afraid to say it.

Tell us which middle east problems are not Israel's fault. Are the Iranian religious/morality policies Israel's fault, Geno?
Why do you hate Iran almost as much as you hate Palestinians, Shazi?
Why do you want war with them too?

Why did you support the Israeli assassination of Hamas' treaty negotiator in Iran?
Why did you support Israel bombing the Iranian embassy in Syria?

Why are you against deescalation, peace and human rights?

 

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Agreed, the problem is that the constant threats of war from Israel and the US keep the hardliners in power.
If you want change you need to end those threats, renew treaties and end sanctions so the country can open up again.
And the racist elitist tries to pretend that Iran can't be responsible for repressing women and it's somehow Israel's fault.

Laughable that in a discussion about Iran's government, you refer to the US as hardliners.
 

basketcase

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No, Shazi.

I'm saying that you need to deescalate the entire middle east if you want Iran to be able to become more moderate.
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By deescalate, you clearly mean eliminate Israel and remove the Jewish presence.

You won't accept it but like everywhere else, there was the Middle East had ethnic violence and periods of repression before colonialism or 1948.
 

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...Who knows, if Iranian democracy had evolved it might be a very different nation today.
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A look at history has me thinking Iran wouldn't be a democracy, at least not the kind we have.

The Pahlavis took the throne by a coup themselves in 1925 and despite the existence of a parliament, Iran was still a semi-autocratic state. It's also worth noting that the Shah was only briefly out of power between '51 and '53.

of course we could then add in the conflicting ideals sweeping the region at that time with the battles between nationalists, west focused progressives, communists, and Islamists and it is quite likely that simply eliminating 1953 would not make significant change to the themes there.

But it's easier to simply blame the UK/US and pretend that Persians/Iranians were just helpless pawns.
 
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I know. It exposes your cowardice and your racism.

You want to blame Israel for absolutely everything in the middle east but are too afraid to say it.
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He's not afraid. In fact his post earlier in this thread made his opinion quite clear (just like the tweet he posted about the Jewish Lobby assassinating JFK).
 

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Iran has a Jewish population that is living peacefully.
Nobody is talking about removing them.
As an abused minority, completely excluded from the governmental system, only allowed to vote for or take part in a token legislature seat.

You believe the UN right?

But still here you are trying to deflect and distract from any criticism of Iran. Yes, the OP is just as obsessed with a racial world view as you are but that doesn't change that Iran deserves condemnation for it's treatment of women and minorities.
 

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Iran has a Jewish population that is living peacefully.
Nobody is talking about removing them.
There's 8,000 Jewish people in Iran...Iran's population is 89 million.

If it's so peaceful for them then why isn't there more of them?
 

shack

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There's 8,000 Jewish people in Iran...Iran's population is 89 million.

If it's so peaceful for them then why isn't there more of them?
Maybe I'm mistaken, but I believe that there used to be many multi-fold more Jews there.
 
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You posted accusing a Jewish conspiracy for assassinating JFK, just like the old school racist you are.
We're back to everything being antisemitic to you, are we?

Just look at all these antisemites, basketcase.
 

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As an abused minority, completely excluded from the governmental system, only allowed to vote for or take part in a token legislature seat.
Like Israel?

Thanks for saying that you think Israel is as bad as Iran for minorities.
 

shack

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shack

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Thanks for saying that you think Israel is as bad as Iran for minorities.
At last you are admitting that Iran treats their visible minority citizens like shit, including the 8,000 Jewish Iranian citizens. Israel treats all of their citizens equally.
 
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