are John's exploiting women?

[psa]

Are men who participate in this hobby exploiting women with their socioeconomic status?

Let's face it, 99%( figures pulled out of my ass, but reasonable I think )of the women in this hobby only do this because they need money. Education, kids, drugs or just being able to live.

For the most part the people who partake in this hobby have more disposable income than most. Are we exploiting their vulnerabilities by offering money to sell their bodies and corrupt their spirit?

My answer is yes to all.

 

[unassuming]

We are exploiting each other:

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/are-sps-exploiting-our-addiction.841076/

 

[onomatopoeia]

Are men who participate in this hobby exploiting women with their socioeconomic status?

Let's face it, 99%( figures pulled out of my ass, but reasonable I think )of the women in this hobby only do this because they need money. Education, kids, drugs or just being able to live.

For the most part the people who partake in this hobby have more disposable income than most. Are we exploiting their vulnerabilities by offering money to sell their bodies and corrupt their spirit?

My answer is yes to all.

You place too much faith in information printed in the Globe and Mail, or broadcast on the CTV late night news.

Escorting is not the primary or solitary income source for all Escorts. There are MANY, particularly at they higher end of the fee scale, who don't care one way or another if they're booked frequently. They just want to be paid large whenever they bang someone whom they didn't personally select. If their fee is $600/ hour, it means that they aren't interested in knocking boots with gentlemen who only want to pay less than that for private entertainment.

Back in the day, it was standard for a guy to expect a BJ if a civvy lady date ordered lobster at dinner date. Some guys give expensive gifts which cannot easily be converted to cash, (fur, back in the day, or jewelry), when they have expectations of something specific in return. Some women would just rather have the cash, to spend on something they choose, instead of something chosen for them.

 

[shack]

We are exploiting each other:

This.

But, to be honest. It is like every business transaction. Two parties each have assets that the other is in search of.

As such there is no exploitation. Each party has their eyes open.

Look at it any way you want.

 

[Jubee]

You place too much faith in information printed in the Globe and Mail, or broadcast on the CTV late night news.

Scary enough, a large majority of people do. If people did their own research instead of sitting on their asses in front of th TV...

 

[squeezer]

Are men who participate in this hobby exploiting women with their socioeconomic status?

Let's face it, 99%( figures pulled out of my ass, but reasonable I think )of the women in this hobby only do this because they need money. Education, kids, drugs or just being able to live.

For the most part the people who partake in this hobby have more disposable income than most. Are we exploiting their vulnerabilities by offering money to sell their bodies and corrupt their spirit?

My answer is yes to all.

Its a business! Stop putting your moral beliefs on others. A good-looking bartender/waitress probably gets more exploited for less money from dimwits than an escort.

 

[Hunter96]

Are men who participate in this hobby exploiting women with their socioeconomic status?

Let's face it, 99%( figures pulled out of my ass, but reasonable I think )of the women in this hobby only do this because they need money. Education, kids, drugs or just being able to live.

For the most part the people who partake in this hobby have more disposable income than most. Are we exploiting their vulnerabilities by offering money to sell their bodies and corrupt their spirit?

My answer is yes to all.

Money pressure is on everyone and not every single of them become drug dealer, escort, pimp and join the gang.
Now a days it’s “profession” with equality, independence and my body my choice.
there are very less escorts who retire or quit this line of business. It’s easy and tons of money.

 

[Giselle Montreal]

Let's face it, 99%( figures pulled out of my ass, but reasonable I think )of the women in this hobby only do this because they need money. Education, kids, drugs or just being able to live.

Isn't it the point of "working"?

 

[massman]

Are men who participate in this hobby exploiting women with their socioeconomic status?

Let's face it, 99%( figures pulled out of my ass, but reasonable I think )of the women in this hobby only do this because they need money. Education, kids, drugs or just being able to live.

For the most part the people who partake in this hobby have more disposable income than most. Are we exploiting their vulnerabilities by offering money to sell their bodies and corrupt their spirit?

My answer is yes to all.

99% of people work because they need money. (Figures pulled out of my ass, lol).

 

[Knuckle Ball]

All paid labour is exploitative by its nature.

 

[Patron]

You place too much faith in information printed in the Globe and Mail, or broadcast on the CTV late night news.

Escorting is not the primary or solitary income source for all Escorts. There are MANY, particularly at they higher end of the fee scale, who don't care one way or another if they're booked frequently. They just want to be paid large whenever they bang someone whom they didn't personally select. If their fee is $600/ hour, it means that they aren't interested in knocking boots with gentlemen who only want to pay less than that for private entertainment.

Back in the day, it was standard for a guy to expect a BJ if a civvy lady date ordered lobster at dinner date. Some guys give expensive gifts which cannot easily be converted to cash, (fur, back in the day, or jewelry), when they have expectations of something specific in return. Some women would just rather have the cash, to spend on something they choose, instead of something chosen for them.

Even worse in the U.S., but we have to be careful about this topic everywhere due to the media.

ABC News did a multi-hour segment about Prostitution probably 20 years ago, maybe more.

This was long before Fosta/Sesta and the federal crackdown on multi-state agencies.

At that time, the primary market was part-time escorts, often meaning part-time in that college students joined agencies and worked full-time (by a college-girl’s standards) in the summer and weekends during the rest of the year. Or as independents utilizing online advertising to do escorting, usually as a part-time addition to another job.. The hourly rate then was $300 to $450 an hour for full service and the oral was usually BBBJ but the percentage that was BBBJ was lower than today. In other words, the largest part of the market was as standardized as the double cheeseburger and fries.

Guess what ABC did? Three parts of the market was studied. The largest focus was the street scene, with plenty of trips to the morgue. They fucking died from drug overdoses, not sex, you fucking morons at ABC.

The other portion was the legal brothels in Nevada. They once had their place, perhaps, but even twenty years ago, the Internet and the cell phone had made them obsolete. But ABC acted like women enslaved for sex (they can’t leave the brothels in some counties other than medical check day without then quarantining again) and guys driving through the desert was a primary part of the scene.

And then they had one very high-end call girl who did a decent job of defending herself against a Diane Sawyer onslaught, that included the question, Why don’t you just get married?

The media doesn’t want to cover the largest, and most boring, part of the industry. They want the streethooker drug overdoses while wailing The Johns Did This, whether government control of the industry is better (despite the fact even when the legal brothels were relevant, Nevada had less in common with the other 49 states than any other state), and of course The Super-Wealthy Stunning Courtesan Who Goes To a Broadway Play Every Time Before Fucking the Wall Street Executive.

But with our stupid, exploitive media in North America, god knows what would happen if they really focused on the Terb market (excluding LeoList). It is probably better for them to focus on sensationalism for the audience that craves it, and leave the rest of us alone.

 

[Jenesis]

I would say it is like any labour force.

You have unionized trade workers who make a fair wage for their work. Even though their bodies are taking a toll.

You have migrants that work in worse conditions, but they need a job and have less resources backing them like unions.

You have independent contractors that pick and choose their clients. Some being able to be more selective then others.

There are sex workers like me who don’t need the money. Then you have sex workers that treat this like any other job and then you have survival sex workers.

A sex work CAN be exploited by an individual. A guy who knows she is struggle hard and uses that to his advantage to get the most possible for cheapest price and only going to girls they know truly and desperately need the money, but I don’t think as a whole the industry is exploiting women.

The tricky part of that though is trafficking and pimping. If you know a girl is under the control of someone else and you use their service, you are exploiting them.

So it depends and it is an individual thing, not a group or as a whole thing.

If that makes sense.

 

[hoorawr]

Totally… sometimes I feel bad for the 20 year old girls at agencies doing this… they just can’t find good jobs . Then you see some of those same girls 5 years later.. more beat up, working more shifts…. Damn

 

[IM469]

99% of people work because they need money. (Figures pulled out of my ass, lol).

The other 1% just want more : 'Elon Musk gets 77% approval from shareholders to get back his big, $44.9 billion Tesla pay package'

 

[onomatopoeia]

...

And then they had one very high-end call girl who did a decent job of defending herself against a Diane Sawyer onslaught, that included the question, Why don’t you just get married?

...

That sounds like something a Jewish mother would say!

"The most destructive of all narratives is the news, which portrays the world and everyone in it as something to be feared.".

This is a quote from the last episode of season two of Ken Finkleman's The Newsroom, one of the greatest comedy TV shows of all time. Many of you never saw it, because it was on the CBC.

You can watch the entire series online here:

The Newsroom (Canada) 1996-2005 S01-S03 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The Newsroom (Canada) 1996-2005 S01-S03

archive.org

These are my own DVD rips, except for the Escape from The Newsroom TV movie.

Ken Finkleman, @xmontrealer 's high school friend from Winnipeg, is the creator, writer, director and main actor, and he also plays the same character, (George Findlay), in the TV series' More Tears, Foolish Heart, Foreign Objects, Good Dog and Good God.

This is satirical 'black humour' at it's finest, so it won't appeal to the demographic who needs canned laughter to know when somethings is funny. There are some similarities in style with Seinfeld, (in that most of the main characters are unlikable as people), The Office, (in the concept of a film crew documenting 'what goes on', as opposed to a clearly scripted episodic series), and The Larry Sanders Show. If you like things like that, you'll probably like The Newsroom, and Ken's other series.

Click here to watch Good Dog.

Click here to watch Good God.

 

[Valcazar]

That sounds like something a Jewish mother would say!

"The most destructive of all narratives is the news, which portrays the world and everyone in it as something to be feared.".

This is a quote from the last episode of season two of Ken Finkleman's The Newsroom, one of the greatest comedy TV shows of all time. Many of you never saw it, because it was on the CBC.

You can watch the entire series online here:

The Newsroom (Canada) 1996-2005 S01-S03 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The Newsroom (Canada) 1996-2005 S01-S03

archive.org

These are my own DVD rips, except for the Escape from The Newsroom TV movie.

Ken Finkleman, @xmontrealer 's high school friend from Winnipeg, is the creator, writer, director and main actor, and he also plays the same character, (George Findlay), in the TV series' More Tears, Foolish Heart, Foreign Objects, Good Dog and Good God.

This is satirical 'black humour' at it's finest, so it won't appeal to the demographic who needs canned laughter to know when somethings is funny. There are some similarities in style with Seinfeld, (in that most of the main characters are unlikable as people), The Office, (in the concept of a film crew documenting 'what goes on', as opposed to a clearly scripted episodic series), and The Larry Sanders Show. If you like things like that, you'll probably like The Newsroom, and Ken's other series.

Click here to watch Good Dog.

Click here to watch Good God.

The Newsroom was good stuff.

 

[unassuming]

 

[NotADcotor]

I'd rather go gay for pay than work at McDs, or many other jobs for that matter. No homo [unless I am getting paid]

From the movie Orgazmo

• (Robyn Lynne Raab) "You pig, you're responsible for degrading all of those women."
• (Ron Jeremy) "Men are equally degradable in pornographic films."
• (Robyn Lynne Raab) "Men are always in a position of power."
• (Rodgers) "They're the ones who want the product so bad, they're the victims."
• (Robyn Lynne Raab) "Well, it exploits men by exploiting women."
• (Ron Jeremy) "Hence, it exploits people."

 

[Knuckle Ball]

From the movie Orgazmo

• (Robyn Lynne Raab) "You pig, you're responsible for degrading all of those women."
• (Ron Jeremy) "Men are equally degradable in pornographic films."
• (Robyn Lynne Raab) "Men are always in a position of power."
• (Rodgers) "They're the ones who want the product so bad, they're the victims."
• (Robyn Lynne Raab) "Well, it exploits men by exploiting women."
• (Ron Jeremy) "Hence, it exploits people."

Ron Jeremy may not be the best authority to quote on this subject. He would probably be in prison alongside Harvey Weinstein for multiple rape charges if he was fit to stand trial.

Ron Jeremy found ‘not competent’ to stand trial for multiple rape charges

Los Angeles judge rules porn star is in “incurable neurocognitive decline”, sparing him trial on rape and sexual assault charges

www.theguardian.com

 

[roddermac]

Are men who participate in this hobby exploiting women with their socioeconomic status?

Let's face it, 99%( figures pulled out of my ass, but reasonable I think )of the women in this hobby only do this because they need money. Education, kids, drugs or just being able to live.

For the most part the people who partake in this hobby have more disposable income than most. Are we exploiting their vulnerabilities by offering money to sell their bodies and corrupt their spirit?

My answer is yes to all.

So what would these women be doing to earn a living if they weren't in this profession.