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bver_hunter

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If he isn't incompetent then why isn't he running?
It is not based on incompetency. The Americans are more worried about his age and think that his time is up at the end of his term in office. That is why he was down in the polls and a big worry for the Democrats. See, once he was replaced by Kamala who had a low rating in the polls in the past, a sizeable percentage of them who were not committed are now throwing their support behind her. In other words they trust her more than a felon like Trump!!
 

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It is not based on incompetency. The Americans are more worried about his age and think that his time is up at the end of his term in office. That is why he was down in the polls and a big worry for the Democrats. See, once he was replaced by Kamala who had a low rating in the polls in the past, a sizeable percentage of them who were not committed are now throwing their support behind her. In other words they trust her more than a felon like Trump!!
They replaced him because he is senile.
 
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Mainly because he will be too old to last the full 4 years. He has his moments of senility. But overall he is currently a much better choice than Trump!!
So then were they wrong not to have a proper primary? Or were they wrong to replace him after 14 million voters put him in? If he is too old now, then why wasn't he too old 6 months or a year ago?

The Democratic party essentially bypassed the recognized Democratic system in place for choosing Presidential nominees. Literally did the smokey backroom deal.
 

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So then were they wrong not to have a proper primary? Or were they wrong to replace him after 14 million voters put him in? If he is too old now, then why wasn't he too old 6 months or a year ago?

The Democratic party essentially bypassed the recognized Democratic system in place for choosing Presidential nominees. Literally did the smokey backroom deal.
You really do not comprehend how the nomination system works. Yes, Biden won the nomination. But if he decided to do what is good for the party and country as a whole and that was to step down, then elected delegates at The Democratic Convention votes to certify the Presidential Candidate. Maybe you now get it rather than believing some right wing propaganda. Kamala got the 99% of the votes from these delegates!!

Biden is still mentally capable of completing his term in office. Not sure why you seem to be ruffled by this fact, rather than focusing on Trump, who could not accept to this day the real fact that he lost the 2020 Elections fairly and squarely. He is the biggest danger to democracy........PERIOD!!
 

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So then were they wrong not to have a proper primary? Or were they wrong to replace him after 14 million voters put him in? If he is too old now, then why wasn't he too old 6 months or a year ago?

The Democratic party essentially bypassed the recognized Democratic system in place for choosing Presidential nominees. Literally did the smokey backroom deal.
Why in the flying fuck do you care ? Like is this the most important issue in your life ? It's obviously all legal otherwise the MAGAts would be suing to high heaven
 

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You really do not comprehend how the nomination system works. Yes, Biden won the nomination. But if he decided to do what is good for the party and country as a whole and that was to step down, then elected delegates at The Democratic Convention votes to certify the Presidential Candidate. Maybe you now get it rather than believing some right wing propaganda. Kamala got the 99% of the votes from these delegates!!

Biden is still mentally capable of completing his term in office. Not sure why you seem to be ruffled by this fact, rather than focusing on Trump, who could not accept to this day the real fact that he lost the 2020 Elections fairly and squarely. He is the biggest danger to democracy........PERIOD!!
Lol. They canceled two state primaries, and hid his cognitive decline. Tried to hide it until after the election.

It's all about a bait and switch. With Kamala being the cheap substitute.
 

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Why in the flying fuck do you care ? Like is this the most important issue in your life ? It's obviously all legal otherwise the MAGAts would be suing to high heaven
Of course it's legal. What is a fiction is the Democratic Party actually cares about the primaries. They haven't run a clean one such 2012. What is the problem? That they tried to hide Biden's cognitive decline by not meeting with the press, Congressional leaders, and the public for a full year. Look it up. Unless it was during his limited hours where he could have a semblance of normality.

And your attempt to deflect it shows how worried you are about this truth. You know it is the truth. And you are willing to compromise the recognized proper path to the WH, pretty much democracy itself, all to supposedly save it.

Of course it isn't the most important thing in my life, but considering you posting history, Trump is clearly to you. And that is just so pathetic. I enjoy watching partisans like yourself get twisted up in knots. You are clearly so emotional about Trump. He is the bad girlfriend you hate. So much so ypu can't see how toxic the Dems are as well. You think they are above criticism.

No one is.
 

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Mainly because he will be too old to last the full 4 years. He has his moments of senility. But overall he is currently a much better choice than Trump!!
Said it before. A magic eight ball would be a better choice than Trump...
 

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Said it before. A magic eight ball would be a better choice than Trump...
i am not that worried about Trump. He's old, fat and unfit as he has a diet of high sodium fast food and coke, so life should take care of him quite soon. What I am worried about is his supporters. They are the one that failed the US education system. Vast majority of them have never set foot outside the US. Heck some can't put Canada or Mexico on a map. And these idiots can vote!
 

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Of course it's legal. What is a fiction is the Democratic Party actually cares about the primaries. They haven't run a clean one such 2012. What is the problem? That they tried to hide Biden's cognitive decline by not meeting with the press, Congressional leaders, and the public for a full year. Look it up. Unless it was during his limited hours where he could have a semblance of normality.

And your attempt to deflect it shows how worried you are about this truth. You know it is the truth. And you are willing to compromise the recognized proper path to the WH, pretty much democracy itself, all to supposedly save it.

Of course it isn't the most important thing in my life, but considering you posting history, Trump is clearly to you. And that is just so pathetic. I enjoy watching partisans like yourself get twisted up in knots. You are clearly so emotional about Trump. He is the bad girlfriend you hate. So much so ypu can't see how toxic the Dems are as well. You think they are above criticism.

No one is.
Proper path to the Whitehouse like J6 or the Republican primary farce where their leader did not participate in 1 debate ? If you are really that much of a stickler for procedure you should be outraged about trumps impeachemnets where everyone was thrrstened not to testify. But all this is ok because you just want Trump to win. That is the only reason you care about the democrats primaries because you believe Trump could have beat Biden.
 

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Proper path to the Whitehouse like J6 or the Republican primary farce where their leader did not participate in 1 debate ? If you are really that much of a stickler for procedure you should be outraged about trumps impeachemnets where everyone was thrrstened not to testify. But all this is ok because you just want Trump to win. That is the only reason you care about the democrats primaries because you believe Trump could have beat Biden.
Hey I agree no debates was bad. On both sides. They should be mandatory. Biden didn't have one either did he?

You shouldn't point out bad behavior when Biden is living in a glass old age home.
 

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Hey I agree no debates was bad. On both sides. They should be mandatory. Biden didn't have one either did he?

You shouldn't point out bad behavior when Biden is living in a glass old age home.
Since the only choices now are a ex-prez/conmanFelon/rapist vs an attorney/VP/Senator if you had a vote in the US which one would you vote for? I know, you are going to say neither then which one and you have to pick one due to the reality of the outcome, which one would you like to see running the US for the next 4 years? You must pick one, do not skate, deflect with nonsense. One of these two will be running the US for 4 years, so come on, which one do you prefer to see doing so?
 

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Since the only choices now are a ex-prez/conmanFelon/rapist vs an attorney/VP/Senator if you had a vote in the US which one would you vote for? I know, you are going to say neither then which one and you have to pick one due to the reality of the outcome, which one would you like to see running the US for the next 4 years? You must pick one, do not skate, deflect with nonsense. One of these two will be running the US for 4 years, so come on, which one do you prefer to see doing so?
Third party protest vote.
 

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Third party protest vote.
You must pick one, do not skate, deflect with nonsense. One of these two will be running the US for 4 years, so come on, which one do you prefer to see doing so?
Stop avoiding the question. It is a very simple question. You only have two choices of whom is going to run the USA for the next 4 years. THERE IS NO THIRD PARTY or another individual besides a conman or a lawyer who will win so which one do you choose to win of the two? Which one of the two is better for the US?
 

Butler1000

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Stop avoiding the question. It is a very simple question. You only have two choices of whom is going to run the USA for the next 4 years. THERE IS NO THIRD PARTY or another individual besides a conman or a lawyer who will win so which one do you choose to win of the two? Which one of the two is better for the US?
It's a bad question. I would have choices. You don't get to set the parameters of the election by your own rules.

Here is my point. What you are promoting is "shut up and vote who we, the Elites, tell you to." Sorry, that's not how democracy really works.

But in the case of only two? I vote down ballot only and give neither the vote. I write in if I can.
 
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