Two Biological Males Allowed to Fight in Female Div. At Paris Olympics

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It highlights the source of the issue.
Right wingers are scared that the couch they fuck might be trans and they are really gay.
no it doesn't highlight shit...we are discussing biological male trans or however they identify themselves beating up women...do you support this or not?
 

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  1. I am "woke" and left-leaning and I think it's bullshit too.
  2. Anyone here old enough to remember any of the "Russian Women's Teams" from the 70s and 80s. So pumped on steroids they might as well have been men, and dominating every women's sport?! Led to bans on steroids.
  3. The olympics haven't been anything but "the most money and best drugs wins". Ben Johnson won gold. Got caught, so the gold went to a guy who was also juiced but hid it better.
  4. Watch THIS for a laugh and lighten up people!
 

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From what I have gathered. Both participants in question are not transgender. They are intersex. If they were transgender women then I would be against it. But not too sure what to make of an intersex participant in a combat sport. Based on track & field intersex have an advantage when they participant in the female category.

Ultimately in combat sports we need to be very careful and not let gender ideological cloud rational judgment. In general sport divisions are based on biological sex for a very good reason. I don't know why we are accepting "gender identity" as the new test.
 

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no it doesn't highlight shit...we are discussing biological male trans or however they identify themselves beating up women...do you support this or not?
Good question...that you will never get a real answer to from Trollfooter.
 

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So to clarify your position, men who think they're women should get awards and job opportunities designated for women?

Further, men who think they're women should be placed in women's prisons?

Finally, men who think they're women should use washrooms, swimming pools, yoga classes, and schools that are designated for women?

You're right, sports are very different from these examples. What is your position on these examples that go far beyond sports.

What's your opinion, Josephine? Why did you fall silent when other examples were posted?
I didn't fall silent Buckteeth. I said that those issues are very different than athletic competitions where the fact that they are physically unfair is undeniable. It is cut and dried and easy to answer.

Other issues have more nuance and discussions would be needed to determine an appropriate solution. It is not cut and dried. So for you say that every time in society that a trans person is included is wrong, seems to be a simplistic position. Why am I not surprised by your attitude?

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I didn't fall silent Buckteeth. I said that those issues are very different than athletic competitions where the fact that they are physically unfair is undeniable. It is cut and dried and easy to answer.

Other issues have more nuance and discussions would be needed to determine an appropriate solution. It is not cut and dried. So for you say that every time in society that a trans person is included is wrong, seems to be a simplistic position. Why am I not surprised by your attitude?

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It's quite simple really...let trans have the same employment opportunities as everyone else...the gap has been closer now than before...there are women military personnels etc etc... there are male nurses now too. but you can't pit women vs men...sports, combat. Trans are people too...they have rights, but they are not women and shouldn't be considered as...period.
 

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So to clarify your position, men who think they're women should get awards and job opportunities designated for women?

Further, men who think they're women should be placed in women's prisons?

Finally, men who think they're women should use washrooms, swimming pools, yoga classes, and schools that are designated for women?

You're right, sports are very different from these examples. What is your position on these examples that go far beyond sports.

What's your opinion, Josephine? Why did you fall silent when other examples were posted?



It's not unfortunate. Who would want it any other way?
Because your examples don't rely on physical capacities. Brain wise we are all equal. I also don't mind doing yoga with a transgender nor having them going to all women school. Transgenders are not dangerous or deviant and have the right to live a normal life. When it comes to sport, even with the hormones and operations, you cannot change the bones, the muscle ect.

Some TS are really hot too: I follow this guy on Ig. Used to be a woman
 
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From what I have gathered. Both participants in question are not transgender. They are intersex. If they were transgender women then I would be against it. But not too sure what to make of an intersex participant in a combat sport. Based on track & field intersex have an advantage when they participant in the female category.

Ultimately in combat sports we need to be very careful and not let gender ideological cloud rational judgment. In general sport divisions are based on biological sex for a very good reason. I don't know why we are accepting "gender identity" as the new test.

Your intersex assertion seems to be confirmed here...Would love to see what these individuals testosterone levels are.

If they are within range they should be allowed to compete. If they are not then they should be banned.
 

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Because your examples don't rely on physical capacities. Brain wise we are all equal. I also don't mind doing yoga with a transgender nor having them going to all women school. Transgenders are not dangerous or deviant and have the right to live a normal life. When it comes to sport, even with the hormones and operations, you cannot change the bones, the muscle ect.

Some TS are really hot too: I follow this guy on Ig. Used to be a woman
Its ok in some cases but sharing bathrooms? Maybe you're ok with it but some women are not. You also have to consider minors...a line has to be drawn somewhere but yeah...theyvare people to and they have rights and should fight for those rights...but don't push people to believe they're a women...
 

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Its ok in some cases but sharing bathrooms? Maybe you're ok with it but some women are not. You also have to consider minors...a line has to be drawn somewhere but yeah...theyvare people to and they have rights and should fight for those rights...but don't push people to believe they're a women...
That's the thing tho. It's assuming that being transgender is being deviant and perverted. I am a lot more concerned about my sister hitting the public pool with all the look of the men out there watching her 14yrs old body, than a transgender in a cabin bathroom. There are pervert everywhere hun.
 
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That's the thing tho. It's assuming that being transgender is being deviant and perverted. I am a lot more concerned about my sister hitting the public pool with all the look of the men out there watching her 14yrs old body, than a transgender in a cabin bathroom. There are pervert everywhere hun.
Like I said...I won't argue that you feel comfy...you're representing yourself...I'm sure out of 10 women....one won't be...what about them? Are we gonna only consider someone's feeling of identity over feeling of uneasiness? Why can't we aept trans as trans and not women or.men?
 
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