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Two Biological Males Allowed to Fight in Female Div. At Paris Olympics

richaceg

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It would be great if they had their own category. It would be the only time where women do better time/performance than men. They would also suddenly have the biggest sponsorship and audience as well. Not sure why they don't want it. 🤔
well look at you...at least you do recognize that they are not women and should have their own identity...that's the only way moving forward...and the sooner they accept that reality, the sooner we will see progress and acceptance...
 
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well look at you...at least you do recognize that they are not women and should have their own identity...that's the only way moving forward...and the sooner they accept that reality, the sooner we will see progress and acceptance...
No I am still aligning with my point lol. Which is that when it comes to sport, they shouldn't compete together. Nice try 😏
 
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No I am still aligning with my point lol. Which is that when it comes to sport, they shouldn't compete together. Nice try 😏
So you consider them women but they can't compete with women? LOL...this got confusing pretty fast... 😂 😂 😂 😂
 

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I would redirect you to my first post in this thread. Pretty sure it was clear for most.
Not really clear...are trans considered woman or not? if they are not, then society must treat them as trans and not women...it may not sound "delectable' to the ears but that's the first step. we needto be not afraid to point it out... that will actually help the trans community t... the key is to be fearless about it...
 

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I just finished watching the Khelif vs Carini fight.
  • Khelif is really arrogant.
  • Khelif looked physically stronger. And definitely was way faster.
  • I have to question Carini's heart for quitting so soon. But I have to respect her decision if she felt a safety issue for her well being.
I’m surprised that Carini has even stepped into the fucking ring
 

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I’m surprised that Carini has even stepped into the fucking ring
I’m surprised by Carini’s lack of heart. She just doesn’t have that dog in her. Imane Khelif is 9-5 and holds 5 losses to biological women. I’d argue that if she really was a man she’d be 14-0 but she isn’t.
 

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Buddy you’re re-tweeting a Twitter account pretending to be the Prime Minister. Every source you come up with is from Twitter. But I’m sure you’ll go on about how you DiD yOuR OwN ResEaRCH
If it wasn't obvious to you based on the account name then I'm not sure how anyone can help you.
Take a deep breath and calm down before attacking someone.
 
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If it wasn't obvious to you based on the account name then I'm not sure how anyone can help you.
Take a deep breath and calm down before attacking someone.
It was quite obvious lol. The point I was making was that Mitch just lives in an echo chamber and retweets right wing conservative BS
 
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I’m surprised by Carini’s lack of heart. She just doesn’t have that dog in her. Imane Khelif is 9-5 and holds 5 losses to biological women. I’d argue that if she really was a man she’d be 14-0 but she isn’t.
Holding XY chromosomes and high testosterone in your body can certainly give men an advantage over women.
 
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Not really clear...are trans considered woman or not? if they are not, then society must treat them as trans and not women...it may not sound "delectable' to the ears but that's the first step. we needto be not afraid to point it out... that will actually help the trans community t... the key is to be fearless about it...
They are! But they just aren't born women so when it come to the physique, some fundamental stuff cannot be changed.
 

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They are! But they just aren't born women so when it come to the physique, some fundamental stuff cannot be changed.
so they are biologically men but are women? you can't defy science...those are cold hard facts....feelings doesn't define a person...her biology does...sports is a clear indication why they are not...physically...you are basically contradicting yourself.. you can be "politically correct" but scientifically, you are wrong... if we are going to accept them as women...let's remove all barriers and can't pick and choose where we draw the line anymore...if it's women's boxing...then that's where they belong...
 
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This boxer situation is more complex than a born man transitioning into a female, than competing against females.

I have no issues with disallowing males transitioned to females into female sports at the competitive level. In this case it’s more complex, and there are arguments for not allowing.

But people claiming this is an outright man, are being dishonest like they often are.
 
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It was quite obvious lol. The point I was making was that Mitch just lives in an echo chamber and retweets right wing conservative BS
We all love Mitch!
 

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So where were those advantages when she lost 5 times to biological women?
Maybe they were better boxers?
That really has nothing to do with allowing a man to fight a woman just because in the past they lost to women.

Also, it doesn't mean that he was knocked out by these women. Points are given to boxers per round usually. They are also penalized points.

But the point here is that a man is fighting a woman in these Olympics and that's not only unfair, it's what happens when wokeness runs amok.
 
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so they are biologically men but are women? you can't defy science...those are cold hard facts....feelings doesn't define a person...her biology does...sports is a clear indication why they are not...physically...you are basically contradicting yourself.. you can be "politically correct" but scientifically, you are wrong... if we are going to accept them as women...let's remove all barriers and can't pick and choose where we draw the line anymore...if it's women's boxing...then that's where they belong...
Everyone seems to get it but you so we will have to agree to disagree.
 

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This boxer situation is more complex than a born man transitioning into a female, than competing against females.

I have no issues with disallowing males transitioned to females into female sports at the competitive level. In this case it’s more complex, and there are arguments for not allowing.

But people claiming this is an outright man, are being the dishonest retards they often are.
If this person has the free testosterone of a male then that would make them a male.

Instead of going by the sex identified on their passport the IOC should be performing some blood tests.

I do agree that this case is individually quite nuanced though.

The fact that it involves a combat sport is concerning.
 
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