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Do you believe in privilege? White privilege, etc?

Do you believe privilege exists?

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None of the things you are claiming are referenced in the article you just cited.

Moreover, the article you cited demonstrates that racial segregation had a profoundly negative impact on African American children’s self esteem as it led them to view white dolls as more attractive than black ones. This study was used as evidence by the NAACP in Brown vs Board of Education.

The rest of the stuff you cut and pasted from…ummm…wherever…doesn’t support your argument either. In fact, the last paragraph describes attraction to blue eyes as determined by “evolutionary factors, cultural influence, and social status.”

It is unclear to me whether you are even reading the material you are posting or, if so, if you have some cognitive processing difficulties because everything you post is literally the opposite of what you think it means.

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blue eyes preference has proven to exist for 5000 plus years from documenation.
None of the things you are claiming are referenced in the article you just cited.

Moreover, the article you cited demonstrates that racial segregation had a profoundly negative impact on African American children’s self esteem as it led them to view white dolls as more attractive than black ones. This study was used as evidence by the NAACP in Brown vs Board of Education.

The rest of the stuff you cut and pasted from…ummm…wherever…doesn’t support your argument either. In fact, the last paragraph describes attraction to blue eyes as determined by “evolutionary factors, cultural influence, and social status.”

It is unclear to me whether you are even reading the material you are posting or, if so, if you have some cognitive processing difficulties because everything you post is literally the opposite of what you think it means.

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Your being obtuse. Google. But lets see blue eye preference has existed at least for 4,000 years. So
the preference for blue eyes has indeed existed for thousands of years, predating colonialism. Research suggests that:

  • Ancient civilizations: Blue eyes were considered desirable in ancient cultures, such as the Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans.
  • Genetic variation: Blue eyes are a result of genetic variation in the OCA2 and HERC2 genes, which code for eye pigmentation. This variation has been present in European populations for at least 4,000-6,000 years.
  • Cultural and social factors: Preferences for blue eyes have been influenced by cultural and social factors, such as associating them with beauty, purity, or nobility, long before colonialism.

The white and blue doll experiment has been used by critical race theory in my opinion in a wrong way, the science center on the lowest level had (has if reopened) a retort to this with the documentation. I am tempted not to do your homework, as its not in good faith but just in case your having a bad day:




Here are some articles and sources that support the argument that fair skin preference predates colonialism:
  1. "The Cult of the Fair Skin in Ancient China" by Vivian-Lee Nyitray (Journal of Asian Studies, 2001)
  2. "The Beauty of Whiteness: Indian Perspectives" by Roopali Mukherjee (Journal of Women's History, 2006)
  3. "Skin Color and Beauty Standards in Ancient Greece and Rome" by Margaret C. Miller (American Journal of Archaeology, 2013)
  4. "The History of Skin Whitening in Japan" by Kaoru Takahashi (Journal of Japanese Studies, 2015)
  5. "Fair Skin and Beauty in Ancient India: A Study of the Ayurvedic and Sanskrit Texts" by R. H. Singh (Indian Journal of History of Science, 2017)
  6. "The Cultural Significance of Fair Skin in Pre-Colonial Africa" by T. O. Beidelman (Africa Today, 1963)
  7. "Beauty and the Bleach: Skin Lightening and the Politics of Skin Color in Ghana" by A. B. Ncube (African Studies Review, 2018)
While colonialism may have exacerbated the existing preference for white skin, it did not create it. Instead, colonialism likely exploited a pre-existing cultural or even innate inclination, similar to the widespread desire for height (with some exceptions, such as among pygmy populations). To dismiss this preference as solely rooted in racism oversimplifies the complex origins of this phenomenon, which likely has deep roots in human culture and psychology. Ignoring these foundational aspects of human nature and attributing the preference solely to racism represents a lazy and dogmatic approach to understanding this complex issue

P.S. I'm usually a typo-prone, unedited poster, but I'm making an exception here to ensure clarity.

P.S. I use cut and paste to bypass typing challenges whenever I can . I rely on the reader's acuity to connect the dots and understand the intended meaning . In this case, obviously this was too high a hope.

so again



In essence, the argument is that:

  1. Preferences for blue eyes and fair skin have existed for thousands of years, long before colonialism.
  2. These preferences have been influenced by a combination of genetic, cultural, and social factors.
  3. Colonialism may have exploited and amplified existing biases, but did not create them.
  4. Attributing these preferences solely to racism oversimplifies their complex origins and ignores the role of human culture and psychology.

The provided sources and articles support this argument, offering a nuanced understanding of the historical and cultural context of these preferences.

PPS preference does not indicate racism just as men who prefer women as partners are not sexist.
 
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How so? Are you of the far right opinion that recognizing reality is dangerous?


Do you spew this racist drivel because you think minorities are incapable of rational thought or is it simply you like to make implied threats on why you see immigration as dangerous?
Are you a white man basket case?
 

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One can cherry pick a certain comment or communique and base their beliefs on it.

Not so simple, except for the simple minded.

Here is an example of a survey carried out on people of colour, both sexes some years ago, in the US

The summary was the following:

The coloured females who indicated that they preferred having children with whites, said, it was so because they did not want their children to be killed for being black.

As we all know, mothers will do anything to ensure their children have a good chance of living a good life.

That is only one example, as decisions made in life is not simple, for many, or as we say things are not always just black or white, there are many shades.
White man bad.
 

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It is sad to see a thread created by our black brothers who are asking each other to list agencies that will see them.
I see no comparable thread about agencies that will see whites.
I understand there is a bit more nuance, but imagine you're a decent, kind person, work hard, take responsibility, and are rejected out of hand simply based upon your look.
 
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It is sad to see a thread created by our black brothers who are asking each other to list agencies that will see them.
I see no comparable thread about agencies that will see whites.
I understand there is a bit more nuance, but imagine you're a decent, kind person, work hard, take responsibility, and are rejected out of hand simply based upon your look.

Montreal is filled with "no black gents" SPs Toronto is paradise compared that city
 

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You want to be a victim so bad it’s actually kind of weird.
You must be a person of color. You now make up 57% of the population of Toronto. Compare that to 1981 at 13%.

Can you see why white people (except for white guilt ridden liberals) are starting to get a bit upset?

How would Jamaica feel if 1 million white people were coming to live there and drastically change the demographic?
 
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You must be a person of color. You now make up 57% of the population of Toronto. Compare that to 1981 at 13%.

Can you see why white people (except for white guilt ridden liberals) are starting to get a bit upset?

How would Jamaica feel if 1 million white people were coming to live there and drastically change the demographic?
Why wait for a hypothetical Jamaica invasion? Just ask any Palestinian for their hundred year history.
 

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You must be a person of color. You now make up 57% of the population of Toronto. Compare that to 1981 at 13%.

Can you see why white people (except for white guilt ridden liberals) are starting to get a bit upset?

How would Jamaica feel if 1 million white people were coming to live there and drastically change the demographic?
You did not seriously just ask that question. How many countries have been overrun by white people throughout history? And now you are upset because the balance is shifting? Into a more fair and diverse environment?

Is this really what you are bitching about???? Do you not see the irony in your statements? I mean you do realize this country didn’t have white people in the beginning. There were another culture of people living on this land that you are claiming should remain more white like the 80s?
 
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You did not seriously just ask that question. How many countries have been overrun by white people throughout history? And now you are upset because the balance is shifting? Into a more fair and diverse environment?

Is this really what you are bitching about???? Do you not see the irony in your statements? I mean you do realize this country didn’t have white people in the beginning. There were another culture of people living on this land that you are claiming should remain more white like the 80s?
I have a problem with people saying white people are racist just for being born. And for things that happened 100s of years ago.

Its 2024 people. If a white person was racist toward a persom of colour, it would be all over the news.
 
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I have a problem with people saying white people are racist just for being born. And for things that happened 100s of years ago.

Its 2024 people. If a white person was racist toward a persom of colour, it would be all over the news.
You are talking out of both sides of your mouth now.

You are mad that more and more people of colour are coming here, yet white men did the same thing but because that is years ago, it doesn’t matter??? It only matters now when it is happening to you. Boohoo. That ain’t how it works sweetie.

And no - every racist act that goes on is not news worthy.

Explain the very real example that our community can give in that black/brown men are denied escort services simply based on their colour and white men often tell providers they are white because they feel it leads to a girl feeling safer. This is in our own backyard and happening now in 2024. Explain to me how that is not white privilege?
 

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You are talking out of both sides of your mouth now.

You are mad that more and more people of colour are coming here, yet white men did the same thing but because that is years ago, it doesn’t matter??? It only matters now when it is happening to you. Boohoo. That ain’t how it works sweetie.

And no - every racist act that goes on is not news worthy.

Explain the very real example that our community can give in that black/brown men are denied escort services simply based on their colour and white men often tell providers they are white because they feel it leads to a girl feeling safer. This is in our own backyard and happening now in 2024. Explain to me how that is not white privilege?
As a middle aged white male, I'm aware of some of my privilege, and I'm sure there are aspects that I'm not aware of. However, This specific example, where I tell an SP I'm white and they feel safer is based on the prejudice of the SP. The SP thinks they will be safer because I'm white. I didn't do anything to create the mentality. That prejudice is pulled from the SP's personal experience and bias. I don't tell them I'm white; they ask.

With that said, of course there's white privilege. No one is looking at me when I didn't scan something correctly at the self checkout. I've been able to talk my way out of a ticket. Literally last week, I was going to see a SP in their condo and the buzzer was busted. I followed the brown guy with his kid in front of me through the locked entrance and they held the door. walked right past security and they didn't say shit. And I assumed that's because I'm a well dressed, well groomed white guy.
 

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As a middle aged white male, I'm aware of some of my privilege, and I'm sure there are aspects that I'm not aware of. However, This specific example, where I tell an SP I'm white and they feel safer is based on the prejudice of the SP. The SP thinks they will be safer because I'm white. I didn't do anything to create the mentality. That prejudice is pulled from the SP's personal experience and bias. I don't tell them I'm white; they ask.

With that said, of course there's white privilege. No one is looking at me when I didn't scan something correctly at the self checkout. I've been able to talk my way out of a ticket. Literally last week, I was going to see a SP in their condo and the buzzer was busted. I followed the brown guy with his kid in front of me through the locked entrance and they held the door. walked right past security and they didn't say shit. And I assumed that's because I'm a well dressed, well groomed white guy.
That is exactly what makes white privilege. It is based on other people’s bias that you as a white man get privileged.

Which is why there should be no guilt, people should just try to be aware of their own personal bias that may continue to give privilege instead of equality.
 

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You are talking out of both sides of your mouth now.

You are mad that more and more people of colour are coming here, yet white men did the same thing but because that is years ago, it doesn’t matter??? It only matters now when it is happening to you. Boohoo. That ain’t how it works sweetie.

And no - every racist act that goes on is not news worthy.

Explain the very real example that our community can give in that black/brown men are denied escort services simply based on their colour and white men often tell providers they are white because they feel it leads to a girl feeling safer. This is in our own backyard and happening now in 2024. Explain to me how that is not white privilege?
Lol maybe the black and brown men shouldnt pimp out girls and sing about it in their rap songs?

And i thought a woman should go by the rule of "my body, my choice"?
 

TomFord1980

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You are upset. Not "white" people.

No one is saying that. You are.

I guess you found the community you are looking for amongst the racist, anti-immigrant, ranting TERBite community. But as I said, this is your last refuge. If you want a community in real life, you gotta learn to mingle and not be such a victim. 😂
How do you know how white people are feeling? Youre an Indian. Can i tell you how the uber eats drivers from India are feeling? No. Because im not indian and have not driven for Uber.
 
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