Watch Kamala's speech yesterday. It was an appeal to the progressive wing of the party.
Are all her speeches going to sound like this? Don't know.
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Are all her speeches going to sound like this? Don't know.
The conspiratorial part of my mind says this was planned, for what motive exactly, I don't know.
Reason being he was going downhill fast way before the debate, I was certain they wouldn't let him debate Trump.
I was absolutely shocked when they announced the debate, how did they think it would turn out?
I have to believe the DNC and his handlers have to know way more about campaign strategy than I do, they had to see this coming.
Cognitive decline aside, his feebleness alone was unsettling.
Something's fishy.
I don't know. Conspiratorial is a strong word.
I just think Democrats thought Biden was a safe bet to take on Trump. The limited campaigning in 2020 worked. Perhaps, they could do that again and campaign from the White House (as they used to say). President Biden holds it together for two debates and you have a race. Never underestimate politicians' tendency to do the same exact thing. It is the safest way to go.
Valcazar and may someone else here was absolutely correct that is not unusual for a sitting President to go unchallenged in the primaries. It can be career suicide if you lose. Again, safe.
Ah-ha, but somebody had the good sense to encourage Biden's team to sign up for an early debate. I look forward to the insider's books that will come out a few years from now.
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If indications were that Biden was ahead of Trump or even neck and neck, I would agree.
Biden was getting trounced in the polls way before the debate,
and then they schedule a debate against a guy like Trump when he's already hanging on by a thread mentally?
I think it's possible they let this happen so he would fall on his sword in the aftermath of everyone turning on him.
I mean, look at what the DNC did to Sanders in 2016, and he would have crushed Trump by all polls.
I don't think Biden had fallen that far behind pre-debate. Biden just started slipping some in the polls the weeks leading up to the debate. The post-debate numbers were obviously horrible. I'm not disagreeing with you that the debate was a test before the Democratic leadership. I don't know about "conspiracy" though.
Let's face it. Somebody has to win in November and somebody has to lose. We all might think a handful of States deciding the Presidency with razor thin margins is the likely outcome. Maybe that's not going to happen this time.
Lastly, I don't remember Sanders crushing Trump in the 2016 polls. Sanders has a strong base in the Democratic party. Beyond that, I don't think his message sells well with Americans. There are probably still many voters who don't know a lot about Sanders.
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Wtf.. so there I mutiny un the dnc if he's being pushed out...he was the nominee they didn't do the primary for him only to back out and anoint Harris...gong show...the circus is here folks...
Latest CNN poll. Trump 49 vs Kamala 46
And Biden promised a public option, alluded to his being a voluntary one term president, and discussed other "progressive" policy. And then tossed it out.
I'm waiting for her to be nailed down on things.
He was in 2020 polls. As he crushed the first three primaries before Obama stepped in. Remember Sanders won 24 states against Clinton. With some irregular issues in two states. It would have been a close race no doubt.
What has Trump done during his short Presidential reign of just one term? The Covid-19 Pandemic was a disaster under his watch with the numbers of deaths and infections. A sizeable number of Americans lost their jobs. Kamala did her duties as an Attorney General, and VP. Now she is endorsed by the majority of the Democrats. Her poll ratings are a cause for concern for the Republicans. Do not know where you get the notion that "nobody wanted Harris as the VP".......guess that you read Fox News that did a 24/7 job of tarnishing her reputation. No doubt if anyone else was nominated, Fox would try to do the same!!
Guess this 44% of Americans are "nobody to you":
US election latest: Kamala Harris more popular than Donald Trump, new poll shows
Kamala Harris is more popular than Donald Trump, according to the first national poll carried out since Joe Biden stood down.
So you believe Trump would make a better POTUS in 2024 for 4 years?
I'm asking what are her policy positions. Do you know yet? If not then you are assuming things that might not be true. Right?
She has proven to be a weather vane in the past.
Why are you so afraid of asking about her? She deserves scrutiny right? The primary process we are told is to vetted candidates. It's been bypassed.
And in her previous run she quit after she was called out on policy and previous actions and nobody, not even in her home state wanted her. Not a good start imo.
I did a quick perusal of Sanders vs. Trump and Realclearpolitics had Sanders up 4% in April, 2020 with an aggregation of polls. It sounds like a lot until you realize Biden won the election with 4.5% margin nationally.
What's interesting is Biden was polling much higher than 4.5% in October, 2020.
So would have Sanders' April polling margin of 4% shrink on the actual Election Day? Was Sanders really that well-known to voters in the Spring of 2020? I maintain that outside Democratic voters who are very engaged Sanders is not well-known.
So it might be an overstatement to say that Sanders was crushing Trump. In actuality, Biden was "crushing" Trump in polling as late as October and up until Election Day.
2020 General Election: Trump vs. Biden Polls | RealClearPolling
Explore poll data on the 2020 General Election between Trump and Biden. Gain insights into key trends and electoral dynamics.
