Will Biden step down?

Butler1000

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It doesn't look like he is going to be able to withstand the pressure now. Pelosi has been working the phones to the point I think the delegates will break faith and not vote him in as the nominee. Which would leave the Superdelegates in charge of figuring it out.
 

Frankfooter

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Goal posts?
You can't provide simple proof and insist on spreading misinformation instead.
Thanks for proving my point once again.
The article posted the judge's statement and decision.
If you want to dig through the court statement, go for it.
But its an obvious attempt of moving the goal posts, you said you have to respect court decisions and have tried to change the terms of that statement.

You back rape and are trying squirm around to pretend you don't.
Deal with it.

You either support rapists and defend acts of rape or you don't.
You choose to back rapists, you want them elected to office.
Same way you want someone convicted of fraud, a convicted felon, to be in charge of american taxpayer money.

Listen to your own words, skoob.

In other words, you don't support and accept verdicts when they don't jive with your narrative.

Sounds like the only sore loser here is you sunshine.
Judge in E. Jean Carroll Case: Yes, Donald Trump Is a Rapist
A judge rejected Trump’s semantic attempt to throw out the case.

You back rape.
 

silentkisser

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those are merely accusations...Trump met with every world leader to broker peace... no wars happened under his tenure...that says a lot...nice try using "extort"....US is aiding Ukraine financially...you think it's a good idea to keep sending funds while Ukraine babysit a US politician's son for some shit you know those cases stood in court right? or were you not alive then?
Trump did not broker any peace. If he did, why was Russia still fucking around in eastern Ukraine? Why did they continue to hold Crimea? Why did North Korea continue on its nuclear weapons and cruise missile program. That is some massive rose coloured glasses you're wearing. Most world leaders think Trump is a joke. They might not feel free enough to say it out loud, but they know he is a Russian cuck and would do whatever Putin asks...

And....Merely accusations? And what court are you talking about? Trump basically said he would withhold sending money/weapons to Ukraine unless they "helped" find stuff on Hunter. That was why he was impeached. All the talk about Hunter and Ukraine lacked two fairly important things: Facts and evidence. Hell, how many so-called witnesses did James Comer and Gym Jordan call on, only for them to publicly refute the GOPs narrative? It was pretty fucking embarrassing...and maybe we could call that lawfare, but I'm sure you don't see it that way....
 

silentkisser

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''In honor of out great veterans on Veteran's day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists. Fascists, and radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, lie, steal, and cheat on elections and will do anything possible, whether legal or illegally to destroy America ,and the American dream. The threat from outside forces is far less sinister dangerous and grave than the treat from within. Despite the hatred and anger of the radical left lunatics who want to destroy our country We Will Make America Great Again. ''

The actual quote from his social media post at the time...
That is what he put on social media. What did he say in the speech? Or other speeches...


Sure, he can try to rehabilitate the theme by writing out this string of bullshit. But, it sort of goes against what he actually says. And, let's not forget his dangerous comments here, calling the left "radical" and lunatics." I thought only leftists demonized their opponents....:rolleyes:
 
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Skoob

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It doesn't look like he is going to be able to withstand the pressure now. Pelosi has been working the phones to the point I think the delegates will break faith and not vote him in as the nominee. Which would leave the Superdelegates in charge of figuring it out.
Which begs the question, who has been running the country this whole time?
 

Skoob

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The article posted the judge's statement and decision.
If you want to dig through the court statement, go for it.
But its an obvious attempt of moving the goal posts, you said you have to respect court decisions and have tried to change the terms of that statement.

You back rape and are trying squirm around to pretend you don't.
Deal with it.

You either support rapists and defend acts of rape or you don't.
You choose to back rapists, you want them elected to office.
Same way you want someone convicted of fraud, a convicted felon, to be in charge of american taxpayer money.

Listen to your own words, skoob.



Judge in E. Jean Carroll Case: Yes, Donald Trump Is a Rapist
A judge rejected Trump’s semantic attempt to throw out the case.

You back rape.
Getting the judge's biased opinion after the fact is not proof...it's opinion.
He was not charged with rape. He was not convicted of rape. No criminal conviction.

You can keep repeating your misinformation all you want, doesn't make it fact.

If you need it spelled out for you, read this...or don't...I don't care because everything you say is just misinformation anyway.


Fact Check: Was Donald Trump Found Guilty of Rape?

"So, we can establish that Trump was not found "guilty" of rape as he was not criminally charged, nor was he found liable for rape."

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935
 

richaceg

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Trump did not broker any peace. If he did, why was Russia still fucking around in eastern Ukraine? Why did they continue to hold Crimea? Why did North Korea continue on its nuclear weapons and cruise missile program. That is some massive rose coloured glasses you're wearing. Most world leaders think Trump is a joke. They might not feel free enough to say it out loud, but they know he is a Russian cuck and would do whatever Putin asks...

And....Merely accusations? And what court are you talking about? Trump basically said he would withhold sending money/weapons to Ukraine unless they "helped" find stuff on Hunter. That was why he was impeached. All the talk about Hunter and Ukraine lacked two fairly important things: Facts and evidence. Hell, how many so-called witnesses did James Comer and Gym Jordan call on, only for them to publicly refute the GOPs narrative? It was pretty fucking embarrassing...and maybe we could call that lawfare, but I'm sure you don't see it that way....
Russia is fucking around because the peace end when Biden lollygagged with NATO and Ukraine...that's what happens when your son is Zelensky's boytoy...
 

Skoob

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Gov. DeSantis nailed it in his speech at the RNC! Lol!

"America cannot afford four more years of a 'Weekend at Bernie's' presidency,"

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Frankfooter

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Getting the judge's biased opinion after the fact is not proof...it's opinion.
He was not charged with rape. He was not convicted of rape. No criminal conviction.

You can keep repeating your misinformation all you want, doesn't make it fact.

If you need it spelled out for you, read this...or don't...I don't care because everything you say is just misinformation anyway.


Fact Check: Was Donald Trump Found Guilty of Rape?

"So, we can establish that Trump was not found "guilty" of rape as he was not criminally charged, nor was he found liable for rape."

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935
It is legally correct to say that rump is a rapist.
We've already established this, just as we've established that you back rape, pedophiles and genocide.

In other words, you don't support and accept verdicts when they don't jive with your narrative.

Sounds like the only sore loser here is you sunshine.
Judge in E. Jean Carroll Case: Yes, Donald Trump Is a Rapist
A judge rejected Trump’s semantic attempt to throw out the case.


You back rape.
 

silentkisser

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Russia is fucking around because the peace end when Biden lollygagged with NATO and Ukraine...that's what happens when your son is Zelensky's boytoy...
Hilarious. You think Putin waited? Or were there other events that happened in Europe and elsewhere that sparked the invasion. It sure wasn't because Trump was no longer in power. We can hear what he's saying, he'd force Ukraine to sue for peace and lose territory. That's what Russia wants right now, because they cannot achieve total victory. But, they'll wait until Trump-Vance sells Ukraine out and allow it to roll over them. It will be sad. It will be horrific. It will be the realization of Trump's foreign policy, which is defer to Putin...
 

richaceg

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Hilarious. You think Putin waited? Or were there other events that happened in Europe and elsewhere that sparked the invasion. It sure wasn't because Trump was no longer in power. We can hear what he's saying, he'd force Ukraine to sue for peace and lose territory. That's what Russia wants right now, because they cannot achieve total victory. But, they'll wait until Trump-Vance sells Ukraine out and allow it to roll over them. It will be sad. It will be horrific. It will be the realization of Trump's foreign policy, which is defer to Putin...
Wrong...you can make assumptions but why did the Ukraine Russia happened during biden's watch?
 

silentkisser

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Wrong...you can make assumptions but why did the Ukraine Russia happened during biden's watch?
There are several factors, and virtually all of them had nothing to do with who was president. So, blaming Biden or saying it wouldn't have happened under Trump is just bullshit. That's the point. Y'all on the right want to pretend that Trump stopped Putin. He did not. The Russians were still fucking about in east Ukraine.
 
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There are several factors, and virtually all of them had nothing to do with who was president. So, blaming Biden or saying it wouldn't have happened under Trump is just bullshit. That's the point. Y'all on the right want to pretend that Trump stopped Putin. He did not. The Russians were still fucking about in east Ukraine.
Putin needed to wait mouths because the pressure to cancel the Russia worldcup from Fifa was too high. Without the world cup he would have made his invasion sooner.
 

silentkisser

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Putin needed to wait mouths because the pressure to cancel the Russia worldcup from Fifa was too high. Without the world cup he would have made his invasion sooner.
Very good point. This shit didn't happen in a vacuum. And it really had nothing to do with Trump being president or not.
 

Valcazar

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First, nobody believes that all GOPers are white supremacists. What we will say is that most white supremacists are GOPers. See the difference? None vote Democrat. I think that's a fairly safe bet to make...
It is possible GOP people believe that.
Remember the whole "deplorables" thing.
Clinton specifically said that all people voting for Trump weren't deplorable racists, and the GOP said "Oh yeah! We're ALL DEPLORABLES!" and marketed it on t-shirts.
 
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Valcazar

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There is nothing stopping Donald or anyone in his family from donating to charity. They just cannot run their own. So, if they were really philanthropic, nothing would stop them. So, i'm not going to cry over the money these charities "could" have received from the Trump Foundation.
Skoob is very committed to the theory that "No charities get money if Trump can't wet his beak".
Look, if Trump uses the money donated to charity as his personal slush fund, that's fine because at least the charities get some money sometimes - especially when at the event someone donates to them directly instead of through Trump.
 
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Valcazar

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Hilarious. You think Putin waited? Or were there other events that happened in Europe and elsewhere that sparked the invasion. It sure wasn't because Trump was no longer in power. We can hear what he's saying, he'd force Ukraine to sue for peace and lose territory. That's what Russia wants right now, because they cannot achieve total victory. But, they'll wait until Trump-Vance sells Ukraine out and allow it to roll over them. It will be sad. It will be horrific. It will be the realization of Trump's foreign policy, which is defer to Putin...
Actually, there is good reason to believe it was because Trump was no longer in power.
You can't forget how much the exposure of Russia's influence on Trump crimped any plans Putin may have had.
A second Trump term would have lessened that, but him losing meant that Putin could no longer rely on Trump eventually handing him Ukraine.
With that avenue closed, a move to a more military approach makes more sense.

As you said, many factors were in play.
Trump was one of them.
 
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