LCBO Store Employees On Strike!

[Anbarandy]

I was at an LCBO store about a year ago and arrived just after someone looted a bunch of bottles with a gym bag...there was broken glass at the entrance and people cleaning it up. I asked what had happened and they told be about it.
So I asked what they do in those situations when someone is stealing and they said "nothing".
Their procedure is to report it to police and to head office. They are not allowed to engage. Police only show up later to review security info/video, etc. Police will only show up immediately unless someone is in danger.

Chatting with one of the clerks they say it happens often. Some are discreet and only grab a small bottle and shove it under their jacket, but some are also more extreme and literally walk in with a big duffle bag and start going up/down the isles loading it up.
Repeat offenders are typically already known to police and are usually arrested for other incidents as well.

I don't expect retail employees to engage thieves. But that's our tax dollars walking out of the store. They should put it all behind the counter at the very least and not display it openly where it can be grabbed so easily.

I was biking eastbound on Lakeshore Blvd. W. recently and as I reached the area that was once Ontario Place I noticed it was all boarded up. There were some private sector workers in hi-vis clothing milling about, sitting, joking around, no one really doing anything that could conceivably be described as work, so I asked them what they were doing and what all this boarded up Ontario Place meant.

They said they were being paid by the people of Ontario to stand around and "try to make it look like they were working". They said the place is all boarded up because the people of Ontario are paying private companies to use it to make money for themselves.

Now I don't expect "pretend private sector workers" paid by the people of Ontario to actually do any work nor do I expect private sector corporations to actually pay market rates for 99 year leases nor pay for a $600million underweater parking garage serving their not paid for facilities, But that's our tax dollars walking out of Ontario into the pockets of pretend private sector workers and their private sector pretend employers.

 

[Frankfooter]

 

[DesRicardo]

"per capita"

Understand what that means.

For example, "GDP per capita" is a more accurate measure than "GDP".

Sorry, you need to understand what it means. The accurate measure of GDP is GDP. "Per capita" shows you the real wealth of you GDP.

Second, this is a business so per capita makes very little sense. The proper way to check the finances of a business is an income state.
Revenue - Expenses = Profit.

It's a profitable business for Ontario. Nothing needs to change and would only be helping Loblaws and Wal-mart.

Why give sales margins to private companies when you can keep it in-house? It's stupid.

 

[DesRicardo]

Why legislate them back to work when they can just get rid of them altogether and render them useless?

Why is the LCBO keeping taxpayers from accessing liquor that they in essence already paid for?

Because it only serves the purpose of helping Walmart and Loblaws.

Because they are being targeted by the government.

 

[DesRicardo]

What's funny is Alberta doesn't even have the Policy that Ford is proposing. They actually are pushing back opening up the Market.

 

[DesRicardo]

This will rank up there with the all-time worst moves in recent Ontario History
1. Mike Harris selling the 407.
2. Doug Ford dismantling LCBO.
3. Dalton McGuinty power plant scandal
4. Kathleen Wynne selling Hydro One

 

[Dutch Oven]

Because it only serves the purpose of helping Walmart and Loblaws.

Because they are being targeted by the government.

Ford is not proposing the closure of LCBO stores at this time. If the LCBO truly is a better/cheaper way for consumers, that will be demonstrated by sales, even in the face of competition. If not, consumers will vote with their wallets and buy their booze at Walmart, or wherever. Why are you so opposed to the truth being proven?

My bet would be, just like everything sold in convenience stores, sometimes people will buy products there when it is more convenient (even at a higher cost), and the rest of the time they will buy products where they are cheapest. LCBO will survive, just at lower sales.

 

[rgkv]

No LCBO?? so what!!!

 

[Dutch Oven]

I was biking eastbound on Lakeshore Blvd. W. recently and as I reached the area that was once Ontario Place I noticed it was all boarded up. There were some private sector workers in hi-vis clothing milling about, sitting, joking around, no one really doing anything that could conceivably be described as work, so I asked them what they were doing and what all this boarded up Ontario Place meant.

They said they were being paid by the people of Ontario to stand around and "try to make it look like they were working". They said the place is all boarded up because the people of Ontario are paying private companies to use it to make money for themselves.

Now I don't expect "pretend private sector workers" paid by the people of Ontario to actually do any work nor do I expect private sector corporations to actually pay market rates for 99 year leases nor pay for a $600million underweater parking garage serving their not paid for facilities, But that's our tax dollars walking out of Ontario into the pockets of pretend private sector workers and their private sector pretend employers.

Nothing about your story smells true, apart from the possibility that you were biking eastbound (probably in the westbound lanes).

First of all, people who are paid by construction companies NEVER claim to be working for the customer, rather than their employer. Two, more often as not, they have no clue about the overall planning of the project they are working on. Three, usually construction workers wouldn't start chatting to cyclists. They generally consider cyclists to be wimps. Lastly, construction workers don't often admit to doing nothing, even if they are doing nothing.

I call BS on your story.

As to whether any of the tax dollars involved are actually yours might also be up for debate.

However, as always, I do appreciate the style of your composition.

 

[SchlongConery]

75% of hospitals in deficit.
17 hr wait at most ER's.
Family doctors leaving the business all across the province.
Nurses left after Bill 124 and most new nurses are now Filipino.
Hospitals closed.

Nobody in their right mind thinks health care has gotten better in Ontario under DoFo.
Your claims are idiotic, of course healthcare spending always goes up, but did it go up as much as inflation even and did it get better?
Nope.

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[Skoob]

DoFo chose to put the LCBO on strike to justify handing over the $2.5 billion it sends Ontario to his buddies.
Blame DoFo, this is the first strike in LCBO history.

Wrong.
DoFo wanted mixed cocktails to be sold at private retailers...the union thinks it calls the shots as far as where products should be sold. Newsflash: they don't.

The union is to blame and has screwed its members and the public.

That's why they should abolish these public sector unions that feel at liberty to hold the public hostage.


What's the union upset about?
The Ontario Public Service Employees Union (OPSEU), which represents the striking workers, says it is not opposed to expanding privatized booze sales, at least in principle.
But union leaders argue the province's plan threatens the LCBO's future as a retailer and could lead to thousands of job losses within a few years.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/lcbo-strike-need-to-know-information-1.7258021



In other words...as they always do, the unions convince their members that the sky is falling.

 

[Frankfooter]

No LCBO?? so what!!!

With it goes $2.5 billion in revenue every year and 10,000 good paying, union jobs to be replaced by minimum wages, along with the loss of taxes paid and more social services needed for minimum wage workers.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I dont understand why there isnt room for both the LCBO and small retailers.
Let the LCBO sell the hard to find liquor, and let small stores carry the big brands like Smirnoff vodka, Jack Daniels....etc.
Smaller stores will never have enough room to carry the broad selection the LCBO has, so why not have a 2-tier system??

 

[Skoob]

I was biking eastbound on Lakeshore Blvd. W. recently and as I reached the area that was once Ontario Place I noticed it was all boarded up. There were some private sector workers in hi-vis clothing milling about, sitting, joking around, no one really doing anything that could conceivably be described as work, so I asked them what they were doing and what all this boarded up Ontario Place meant.

They said they were being paid by the people of Ontario to stand around and "try to make it look like they were working". They said the place is all boarded up because the people of Ontario are paying private companies to use it to make money for themselves.

Now I don't expect "pretend private sector workers" paid by the people of Ontario to actually do any work nor do I expect private sector corporations to actually pay market rates for 99 year leases nor pay for a $600million underweater parking garage serving their not paid for facilities, But that's our tax dollars walking out of Ontario into the pockets of pretend private sector workers and their private sector pretend employers.

Cool story bro!

btw Remember when you laughed at Ford for the agreement between him and Chow?
He's actually doing something with his part of the agreement...Chow has basically done nothing in the past year other than rename a square and piss off Jewish Torontonians.
Looks like it's going well for her.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Chow has basically done nothing in the past year other than rename a square and piss off Jewish Torontonians

Its gonna cost $760,000 to rename that place

City hopes new, more durable Toronto sign will 'bring a sense of joy to people'

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toronto.ctvnews.ca

 

[Skoob]

Sorry, you need to understand what it means. The accurate measure of GDP is GDP. "Per capita" shows you the real wealth of you GDP.

Second, this is a business so per capita makes very little sense. The proper way to check the finances of a business is an income state.
Revenue - Expenses = Profit.

It's a profitable business for Ontario. Nothing needs to change and would only be helping Loblaws and Wal-mart.

Why give sales margins to private companies when you can keep it in-house? It's stupid.

The argument here is that the LCBO makes money for the province which in turn is spent on the people.
If the intent of the business is to make money to be shared with the public, then in this case, per capita makes sense and is the better measurement because it shows the relationship of money-to-people within that specific province.

In other cases, GDP is more appropriate. Economists typically use both when comparing countries.

Keep in mind that this strike is about the union wanting to dictate where products can be sold and what types. That's not their decision to make.

Having more choice & convenience, like everywhere else in the world, is something we are lacking in this province.

 

[Anbarandy]

Its gonna cost $760,000 to rename that place

City hopes new, more durable Toronto sign will 'bring a sense of joy to people'

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toronto.ctvnews.ca

It's gonna cost the people of Ontario billions because Ford handed over the people of Ontario's property of Ontario Place to the private sector for 99 years.

This is just too easy!

 

[Skoob]

This will rank up there with the all-time worst moves in recent Ontario History
1. Mike Harris selling the 407.
2. Doug Ford dismantling LCBO.
3. Dalton McGuinty power plant scandal
4. Kathleen Wynne selling Hydro One

Except DoFO is not dismantling the LCBO. He's allowing mixed-cocktails to be sold at private retailers like everywhere else in the world.
That's hardly something that would rank on any list of "worst moves". In fact, it's a long overdue move that offers the public choice & convenience.

 

[Anbarandy]

The argument here is that the LCBO makes money for the province which in turn is spent on the people.
If the intent of the business is to make money to be shared with the public, then in this case, per capita makes sense and is the better measurement because it shows the relationship of money-to-people within that specific province.

In other cases, GDP is more appropriate. Economists typically use both when comparing countries.

Keep in mind that this strike is about the union wanting to dictate where products can be sold and what types. That's not their decision to make.

Having more choice & convenience, like everywhere else in the world, is something we are lacking in this province.

The law of supply and demand.

Trickle-down economics.

Shareholders.

Dividends.

Give corporations public money and they will keep it for themselves.

 

[Skoob]

Its gonna cost $760,000 to rename that place

City hopes new, more durable Toronto sign will 'bring a sense of joy to people'

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toronto.ctvnews.ca

Wow! I know the price of everything has gone up, but I never realized the price of virtue signaling was also affected!

She should have waited for a virtue signal sale or at the very least, some useful coupons!