LCBO Store Employees On Strike!

[Skoob]

Prove it.

Prove what exactly? All the proof is in the thread. Just follow what was posted, when and by who. It's all there.

Why do you ask for proof only to then ignore the proof? Every time.

You need to apologize, not stall by asking for proof that you already have.

That's what happens when you jump into others discussions without having followed along first and then just make false accusations.

Apologize.

 

[TomFord1980]

Those thefts are recorded on video, and the police watch them. Most liquor store thieves are locals, and known to the police. Cops arrest them on sight. That's safer than a retail employee playing cowboy.

You actually think the cops pursue them? Theres a reason the prices are so high to make up for theft.

 

[Skoob]

@Frankfooter vs @Skoob

Close...but I would NEVER block Frankfooter like so many on this board have done.
The entertainment value is just too high! Where else can you get Marxists falling on their face and exposing their own hypocrisy so often in public for everyone to see? It's gold!!!

 

[onomatopoeia]

You actually think the cops pursue them? Theres a reason the prices are so high to make up for theft.

A reliable source in my neighbourhood told me that an acquaintance of his was arrested while walking on the sidewalk, two days after that guy had stolen from the LCBO on Parliament Street.

 

[Frankfooter]

And still DoFo plans on giving away $2.5 billion in annual Ontario money.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1811418548197351765

 

[Skoob]

You actually think the cops pursue them? Theres a reason the prices are so high to make up for theft.

I was at an LCBO store about a year ago and arrived just after someone looted a bunch of bottles with a gym bag...there was broken glass at the entrance and people cleaning it up. I asked what had happened and they told be about it.
So I asked what they do in those situations when someone is stealing and they said "nothing".
Their procedure is to report it to police and to head office. They are not allowed to engage. Police only show up later to review security info/video, etc. Police will only show up immediately unless someone is in danger.

Chatting with one of the clerks they say it happens often. Some are discreet and only grab a small bottle and shove it under their jacket, but some are also more extreme and literally walk in with a big duffle bag and start going up/down the isles loading it up.
Repeat offenders are typically already known to police and are usually arrested for other incidents as well.

I don't expect retail employees to engage thieves. But that's our tax dollars walking out of the store. They should put it all behind the counter at the very least and not display it openly where it can be grabbed so easily.

 

[shack]

Yes, this is about DoFo weakening health care.
After Bill 124 drove Ontario nurses out of the province or into private contractors there was an Ontario program to recruit Filipino nurses.
https://www.omnicollege.com/philippines/

Now you think DoFo was being racist by pushing to fill Ontario colleges with Filipino nurses?
Which countries do you think he should have picked, Israel?

Another attempt at deflecting.

I'm asking YOU, Geno, why in a post that was 100% filled with things that Ford has done to hurt Ontario healthcare, and nothing else, you felt the need to include the fact that the replacement nurses will be Filipino. There can be no other interpretation, Geno, than hiring Filipino nurses is one more thing that Ford is doing to harm our healthcare.

I've asked several times why you included it. Nobody is questioning that Filipino nurses will be hired, which is all you keep telling us. The question is, why did you include that with the other bad things that Ford has done.

If you can give a direct answer, Geno, then you can start asking me questions.

 

[unassuming]

LCBO has backtracked on opening 35 or so store with limited days and hours, sales will be online for delivery only.

 

[Skoob]

LCBO has backtracked on opening 35 or so store with limited days and hours, sales will be online for delivery only.

Isn't it great when unions hold the public hostage?

We already pay for the stores and the products, but are now restricted.

We already pay for education, but are held hostage by teachers unions when they want more money and strike.

We already pay for public transit but are held hostage when the TTC wants more money.

Etc, etc.

Time to scrap public sector unions.

 

[shack]

Why do you think having Ontario born nurses leave the province and then starting a program to recruit Filipino nurses is superior?
https://www.omnicollege.com/philippines/

Why are you answering a question with a question? You claim to always give direct answers

 

[NotADcotor]

Why are you answering a question with a question? You claim to always give direct answers

Ever wonder if Frankie is a bot?

Seriously. It would explain so much.

 

[ogibowt]

Isn't it great when unions hold the public hostage?

We already pay for the stores and the products, but are now restricted.

We already pay for education, but are held hostage by teachers unions when they want more money and strike.

We already pay for public transit but are held hostage when the TTC wants more money.

Etc, etc.

Time to scrap public sector unions.

Time To scrap public sector unions?....you sound just as looney as you claim Frankfooter to be.....for any Govt , be they right wing or left wing or centrist that would be political suicide for them....never mind Constitution challenges throughout the Court System

One could argue that Major Corporations , Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Oil hold us hostage...partly because of greed, partly because of a lack of competition and partly Global pressures...but ony furried eyed Socialists would advocate that Govt take over the means of production and distribution of Goods and Services..........but carry on with other absurdities

 

[farquhar]

Ontario is accelerating it's Timeline and is bringing Ready-to-Drink Beverages to Licensed Supermarkets this week:

Ontario grocery stores able to sell RTD beverages, beer this week (citynews.ca)

OPSEU, predictably, is pissed off about this.

Meanwhile there is a Distillery near where I live in Oakville where one can buy Gin, Rum, or Vodka directly.

Clearly Ford is trying to break the Union here.

 

[Skoob]

Time To scrap public sector unions?....you sound just as looney as you claim Frankfooter to be.....for any Govt , be they right wing or left wing or centrist that would be political suicide for them....never mind Constitution challenges throughout the Court System

One could argue that Major Corporations , Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Oil hold us hostage...partly because of greed, partly because of a lack of competition and partly Global pressures...but ony furried eyed Socialists would advocate that Govt take over the means of production and distribution of Goods and Services..........but carry on with other absurdities

Why would it be suicide for a political party to scrap public unions? Could it be that they've become too powerful to the point of swaying political influence and is that the way it should be? I'm not saying there are not laws in place right now. I'm talking about the concept.
Major corporations? You can choose to use them or not and buy their products or not right? Why do you think there is no competition between major corporations?

 

[farquhar]

Could it be that they've become too powerful to the point of swaying political influence and is that the way it should be?

One thing I will say in particular about this strike with OPSEU; I really don't think OPSEU should be drawing a line in the sand about Ready-to-Drink beverages and where they should be sold. That is a matter of public policy. If OPSEU wants to negotiate on wages, benefits, and converting casual workers to full-time, that is onside.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Ontario is accelerating it's Timeline and is bringing Ready-to-Drink Beverages to Licensed Supermarkets this week:

Ontario grocery stores able to sell RTD beverages, beer this week (citynews.ca)

OPSEU, predictably, is pissed off about this.

Meanwhile there is a Distillery near where I live in Oakville where one can buy Gin, Rum, or Vodka directly.

Clearly Ford is trying to break the Union here.

Yup, LCBO union is playing right into Ford's hand because now they're giving him a reason to privatize liquor sales in convenience stores

 

[Skoob]

One thing I will say in particular about this strike with OPSEU; I really don't think OPSEU should be drawing a line in the sand about Ready-to-Drink beverages and where they should be sold. That is a matter of public policy. If OPSEU wants to negotiate on wages, benefits, and converting casual workers to full-time, that is onside.

I agree with you.

 

[Frankfooter]

Isn't it great when unions hold the public hostage?

We already pay for the stores and the products, but are now restricted.

We already pay for education, but are held hostage by teachers unions when they want more money and strike.

We already pay for public transit but are held hostage when the TTC wants more money.

Etc, etc.

Time to scrap public sector unions.

DoFo chose to put the LCBO on strike to justify handing over the $2.5 billion it sends Ontario to his buddies.
Blame DoFo, this is the first strike in LCBO history.

 

[Frankfooter]

Clearly Ford is trying to break the Union here.

He's prepping to kill the LCBO as his donors have been eying that easy $2.5 billion the LCBO sends Ontario each year.
Attacking the union is just bonus for the anti worker, Ford.

Its all about the profit he can give to the people who paid for his new cottage.

 

[Anbarandy]

I was at an LCBO store about a year ago and arrived just after someone looted a bunch of bottles with a gym bag...there was broken glass at the entrance and people cleaning it up. I asked what had happened and they told be about it.
So I asked what they do in those situations when someone is stealing and they said "nothing".
Their procedure is to report it to police and to head office. They are not allowed to engage. Police only show up later to review security info/video, etc. Police will only show up immediately unless someone is in danger.

Chatting with one of the clerks they say it happens often. Some are discreet and only grab a small bottle and shove it under their jacket, but some are also more extreme and literally walk in with a big duffle bag and start going up/down the isles loading it up.
Repeat offenders are typically already known to police and are usually arrested for other incidents as well.

I don't expect retail employees to engage thieves. But that's our tax dollars walking out of the store. They should put it all behind the counter at the very least and not display it openly where it can be grabbed so easily.

I was biking eastbound on Lakeshore Blvd. W. recently and as I reached the area that was once Ontario Place I noticed it was all boarded up. There were some private sector workers in hi-vis clothing milling about, sitting, joking around, no one really doing anything that could conceivably be described as work, so I asked them what they were doing and what all this boarded up Ontario Place meant.

They said they were being paid by the people of Ontario to stand around and "try to make it look like they were working". They said the place is all boarded up because the people of Ontario are paying private companies to use it to make money for themselves.

Now I don't expect "pretend private sector workers" paid by the people of Ontario to actually do any work nor do I expect private sector corporations to actually pay market rates for 99 year leases nor pay for a $600million underweater parking garage serving their not paid for facilities, But that's our tax dollars walking out of Ontario into the pockets of pretend private sector workers and their private sector pretend employers.