Pro Hamas in the west - and their adventures
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Seeing as you have no rebuttal to my post, you agree that your biggest supporter is incapable of providing a coherent statement and his posts should be ignored.
Regardless, his sole attempt at a nickname for me is far superior to any of your dozen or so unimaginative, humourless and disconnected to my persona failed attempts. Why do you show such disregard and disdain to your little buddy's stroke of genius. He's been faithful to you. Do you think that yours' are better or are you just jealous as the Grand Wizard of the TERB KKK?
Hamas committing incestuous genocide against Gazans is something that I have not, do not and never will celebrate. However, exposing your lies to the TERB community and humiliating you does provide me with some degree of satisfaction.
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I did not. I said that your newest lies no longer need to be proven because your rep as the biggest liar on TERB has been established, accepted and etched in stone on the rocks of Mt. Zion. Your reputation is biblical in scale.
I said it before, conduct a pole among TERBites on who lies the most in the politics forum if you don't believe me. Pick 10 names but be sure to include both of us. Are you going to do it?
Oh Shazi, I have no need to define ziontologist to you.
I couldn't get you to even figure out how quoting posts on this board works.
You're just too old to take in new info.
There are some things you just can't learn.
Like Never Again.
You've never been able to prove a single lie and now you're saying you never will because you can't.
Reading your posts, bile and accusations raises a smell like the one described here.
You love trying to show how smart you are compared to me, Geno, but now, when given an opportunity to put me in my place, you pass on it. Who believes that? You ducked instead.
Why don't you tell the truth and say that there is no such word. Heck, don't even define it. Show us a legitimate source that shows that it's an actual world.
It doesn't even need to be me. Others have proved it over and over. That is why you have your reputation.
Its more fun to see how pissed off you are that you don't know.
Kinda like watching you try to figure out how to quote posts here.
Watching a sad old racist realize how little he knows is just so right.
But even so, its worth reminding everyone that this is who you really are.
No, Shazi.
Nobody believes your bullshit.
This is your reputation.
The defender of killing children.
This is who you are, Shazi.
ELBIT TROUBLES BREWING AT GILLER
Giller Prize juror warns award in peril over sponsor Scotiabank subsidiary’s ties to Israeli weapons company
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A protester films herself as she interrupts the Scotiabank Giller Prize in Toronto, on Nov. 13, 2023. That Giller officials have not publicly addressed the title sponsorship of the $100,000 prize apart from an initial response the day after the protests is problematic, according to juror Dinaw Mengestu.CHRIS YOUNG/THE CANADIAN PRESS
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With the Scotiabank Giller Prize board of directors set to meet Wednesday afternoon, a jury member for this year’s prize believes the prestigious literary award is in peril over its corporate bank affiliation.
Ethiopian-American novelist Dinaw Mengestu told The Globe and Mail there is strong opposition within the Canadian literary community toward the country’s richest award for fiction because of the investment of a Scotiabank subsidiary in Israel-based defence company Elbit Systems Ltd.
“I think the damage to the reputation that is happening now is already going to be difficult to recover from, and it is growing week by week,” Mr. Mengestu said.
The annual Giller Prize for Canadian novels and short stories was created in 1994 by Montreal businessman Jack Rabinovitch. Scotiabank has been the Giller Prize’s corporate title sponsor since 2005.
Filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission show that Scotiabank subsidiary 1832 Asset Management had a 2.5-per-cent stake in Elbit at the end of March, down from 4.2 per cent at the end of 2023. Scotiabank declined to comment for this story.
On Nov. 13, 2023, at the Four Seasons Hotel in Toronto, anti-Israel protesters disrupted the televised Giller ceremony by mounting the stage while holding signs reading “Scotiabank funds genocide.” Master of ceremonies Rick Mercer attempted to grab one of the signs and some audience members booed. Others, though, walked out as the protesters were escorted from the room and later arrested.
Elana Rabinovitch, executive director of the Giller Prize, issued a statement the next day saying the protesters showed “disrespect to Canadian authors and their literary achievements that were made throughout the year.”
That Giller officials have not publicly addressed the title sponsorship of the $100,000 prize since then is problematic, according to Mr. Mengestu. He is the director of the Center for Ethics and Writing at Bard College in upstate New York and vice-president of PEN America, which champions the freedom to write.
“Silence becomes an invitation for more forceful response from people,” he said. “Writers will come under pressure, and the prize should not let writers be in that difficult position.”
Ms. Rabinovitch, daughter of the late Mr. Rabinovitch, issued a statement to The Globe on Tuesday.
“We have been working hard for some time now on a solution that will support the foundation, the prize and all authors, which will be shared publicly shortly,” the statement read. It went on to say that the Giller Prize would “provide any update that we have” after a Giller board meeting on Wednesday, adding, “we ask that people not construe our silence for endorsement of the status quo. Systems take time to dismantle.”
After last fall’s disrupted gala, Canadian authors launched an online letter in support of the protesters. Among the more than 2,000 signees are Sarah Bernstein, who accepted the 2023 Giller Prize for her novel Study for Obedience, and Erum Shazia Hasan, longlisted for her debut novel We Meant Well.
Both authors withdrew from recent online Giller Book Club events. They later participated in an online book club organized by No Arms in the Arts, a Toronto-based campaign targeting Scotiabank-sponsored arts programs. Ms. Bernstein addressed the issue of arts funding, and the ways writers are paid, “and the ways we are necessarily enmeshed in these systems that we don’t necessarily ethically want to be involved with.”
The Montreal-born, Scotland-based author said that while it was a “difficult decision” to pull out of her Giller Book Club event, she was told that questions from the audience in reference to Palestinians or related protests “might be censored.”
Other signatories to the letter in support of protesters at the Giller Prize ceremony include past winners Omar El Akkad, David Bergen and Sean Michaels, and former jury members including Casey Plett and Waubgeshig Rice.
Mr. Mengestu believes the Giller Prize’s standing is tied to its relationship with the authors. “If you begin to lose the trust and support of the writers who make these prizes viable, and the writers begin to feel like the association with the prize is either against their own values or damaging to their reputation or what they believe is the fundamental role of literature, the legitimacy of the prize quickly begins to come under pressure,” he said.
As a member of this year’s five-person jury panel, Mr. Mengestu receives $10,000. He says the Giller Prize can and needs to exist without Scotiabank.
“I’m not Canadian. I’ll never get this prize, and I’ll probably never have any affiliation with it after this year. My engagement with the Giller Prize is because I’m a writer and I feel deeply about what these awards can do for our culture.”
GILLER= SCOTIABUCKS + ELBIT. BUT AUTHORS RENOUNCE
In response to the sponsorship continuation, CanLit Responds organizer Jody Chan said: “Their renewed commitment to Scotiabank today proves that their eight months of silence means exactly that: a tacit endorsement of Israel’s ongoing genocide in Palestine.”
Authors pull books from Giller Prize consideration over sponsors’ ties to Israeli interests
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The Scotiabank Giller Prize said Wednesday that it would retain its title sponsor, just hours after 15 authors said they would ask their publishers not to submit their books to the prize this year in protest of that sponsorship.
A letter signed by the authors asked for prize organizers to cut ties with partners affiliated with the Israeli military and to pressure the Bank of Nova Scotia to divest a subsidiary’s stake in Israeli weapons manufacturer Elbit Systems. It comes after months of pushback from the literary community since demonstrators were arrested for disrupting last November’s Giller gala over the Elbit investment, including a 2,000-signature letter in support of the demonstrators.
Giller executive director Elana Rabinovitch said in a statement that the organization’s decision was made after a thorough review that also included “deep consultation” with the literary sector.
“We have seen firsthand the positive impact our partnership has had on Giller Prize winners, nominees and the future generations of writers inspired by the work of the foundation,” she wrote, referring to the Giller Foundation, which runs the prize. “While we appreciate the range of views that have been shared, the foundation is not a political tool.”
She added that Scotiabank’s sponsorship contract ends after the 2025 prize but declined to confirm whether it would renegotiate for a longer term or identify who her team spoke with in making that decision.
The Ethiopian-American novelist Dinaw Mengestu, who last week warned the award was in peril over the Elbit connection, also said late Wednesday that he would leave this year’s Giller jury over its decision to stay with Scotiabank. “The foundation has shown it has no desire to even engage with the questions posed by its relationship with Scotiabank, or the impact that relationship has on writers and the prize,” he said in an e-mail.
The authors withdrawing from consideration for the prize, meanwhile, wrote that “we cannot abide our work being used to provide cover for sponsors actively investing in arms funding and Israel’s ongoing genocide of Palestinians.”
The Scotiabank Giller Prize is worth $100,000 and historically has provided a massive boost to its winners’ careers. Signatories to the letter include Behind You author Catherine Hernandez, The Beauty of Us author Farzana Doctor and Wild Houses author Colin Barrett. Five past Giller nominees have also signed the letter: André Forget, Aimee Wall, finalists Noor Naga and Shani Mootoo and winner David Bergen.
Past Giller Prize winners on the future of the prize
Publishing houses ultimately decide which books they will submit for Giller consideration, so some of the authors withdrawing their books this year may not have ultimately been put forward by their publishers –though at least one, Sydney Hegele’s Bird Suit, was planned to be nominated by Invisible Publishing, its publisher Norm Nehmetallah said. There were 145 submissions for Giller consideration last year.
The letter takes a harder stand than previous pressure campaigns against the Giller in the wake of the Israel-Hamas war, which until now have focused mostly on the Scotiabank subsidiary’s Elbit stake. The authors also ask the Giller Foundation to “cut ties with all funders directly invested in Israel’s occupation and genocide in Palestine.”
That includes Canada’s biggest bookstore operator, Indigo, which is controlled by Gerald Schwartz and Heather Reisman, the founders of the HESEG Foundation, which funds scholarships for former Israel Defense Forces soldiers. The Azrieli Foundation made the list for numerous reasons, the letter says, including its late founder’s involvement with the Zionist paramilitary group Haganah.
(Amazon-owned audiobook company Audible was also on the list because of Amazon’s ties to tech company Palantir, but Audible said Wednesday that its contract with the Giller Prize ended last year.)
Representatives for Indigo and the Azrieli Foundation did not respond to requests for comment Wednesday.
Giller Prize juror warns award in peril over sponsor Scotiabank subsidiary’s ties to Israeli weapons company
While most Canadian authors don’t have the option of pulling their books from the country’s biggest bookstore chain, Indigo, without serious harm to their careers, “we have to find spaces where we can put pressure,” such as by signing this letter, Ms. Doctor said. “We have to use the leverage of our labour, our books, to opt out where we can.”
Ms. Hernandez, whose previous book Scarborough was shortlisted for numerous literary awards and Canada Reads, said in an e-mail, “It’s a shame that I even have to consider the distribution of my books because of a corporation’s complicity in genocide.” She added: “Do you shut the hell up for the promise of fame or financial stability? Or do you do as I am doing now and speak up, knowing you risk your livelihood and future as an artist?”
The letter campaign was organized by CanLit Responds, a group affiliated with No Arms in the Arts, whose branches have spearheaded other recent efforts to push back against Scotiabank-sponsored events because of the bank subsidiary’s stake in Elbit. They pushed back against the Hot Docs documentary film festival and canvassed potential exhibitors at this year’s Contact Photography Festival; nearly a tenth of them pulled out from the latter. (Scotiabank stopped funding Contact at the end of this year’s festival for unrelated reasons.)
With Gaza’s health authority reporting more than 38,000 Palestinians dead since the start of the Israel-Hamas war last October, artists around the world have protested corporate sponsors of arts events with ties to the Israeli military.
From November 2023: Several charged after Scotiabank Giller Prize gala interrupted during televised bash
Elbit manufactures products such as military drones and artillery ammunition. Scotiabank subsidiary 1832 Asset Management was its largest foreign shareholder until at least the middle of last year, but has been gradually divesting its stake, which sat at 2.5 per cent at the end of March, securities filings show.
“If the foundation is keeping Scotiabank as its partner, one can only hope and assume that it is because Scotiabank has fully divested itself of Elbit stock,” Ms. Mootoo, a four-time Giller nominee, said. (Scotiabank did not respond to a comment request.)
“If Scotiabank has not fully divested, then this response from the Giller Foundation is sheer arrogance, and a display of disdain for everything that literature and the arts is about, and also a huge insult to the writers the Foundation purports to support,” Ms. Mootoo continued. “They serve only themselves.”
Asked about the Scotiabank pushback last week, Ms. Rabinovitch told The Globe and Mail: “We ask that people not construe our silence for endorsement of the status quo. Systems take time to dismantle.”
In response to the sponsorship continuation, CanLit Responds organizer Jody Chan said: “Their renewed commitment to Scotiabank today proves that their eight months of silence means exactly that: a tacit endorsement of Israel’s ongoing genocide in Palestine.”
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No, it's fun backing you into a corner then watching how foolish you look when you can't back up your BS. Just like this example. You deflect and/or change the topic but can never directly address a challenge. It's cowardly.
Maybe you should do a poll with skoob to see which poster here in the politics forum is more loved.
Sounds like you could use a cuddle or two, maybe you should get together.
You, once again, cower away from a direct question.
Do you think that your reputation on TERB is better than mine. It has nothing to do with skoob.
Why would I care?
Its not like the politics forum is either large or an accurate representation of Canadian views, Shazi.
The latest poll says 49% of Canadians say Israel is committing genocide.
That should have you shitting your pants.
49% of Canadians think of you in the same frame as nazis.
