Yes, but electing PeePee to import US austerity will finally give us the cheap housing and excellent wages of places like Texas, won't it?
The Effect of the Wonderful World of Unfettered Capitalistic Greed on the Housing Market
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I was sarcastic. Peepee will be disastrous but if the american are stupid enough to reelect Trump we might as well elect PP.Yes, but electing PeePee to import US austerity will finally give us the cheap housing and excellent wages of places like Texas, won't it?
It will calm down the right as they will then see how disastrous their non policy are.
To be honest i think a complete collapse of the occidental society will be good in the long run.
I was also being sarcastic, where is that sarcasm emoji?
The con playbook is still incredibly simple and incredibly stupid, yet effective because conservatives also aren't very bright.
Get in power, cut funding to services, declare those services now don't work, cut the services more... Until they are gone.
haha that's funny...and sad. How desperate do you have to be to use China as an example of a successful Communist state?
The only reason China has become successful is due to capitalist strategies (market reforms). Before that, the people were starving for decades.
Do you want to compare China's human rights record while we're at it?
no i was just pointing that not all communists countries are total failure.
if you ask me my model is Europe. Capitalist countries but with high level of socialist measures.
In every country its a spectrum these days.
Governments fund some services, people pay taxes to pay for them.
The difference is in how progressive the taxation, how much corporate taxation and how many services.
Its not a black and white choice.
So you start with the obvious things a government has to fund.
Roads
Armies
Police
And then you figure out to pay for that and how many more services you want.
The problem in the US is that billionaires can bribe politicians directly to put rules in place that only favour themselves.
Losing freedom and having the government control every aspect of your life is indeed a total failure.
In a democratic society, the decisions about laws come about democratically. Some would agree with some of these laws, some don't. That will always be the case, and the people can ultimately decide to make changes via the electoral process.
Communism...not so much comrade.
You mean like how the government in the states just made it illegal to be homeless, that homeless people aren't allowed to stay in 'public' places?
Or do mean more like how the government controls how you are allowed to drive, forces you to buy insurance and wear a seatbelt?
You could move to somewhere that is way more free, a place where there is no functioning government to control your life.
Maybe Haiti or Somalia would finally give you that freedom you really want.
Libertarian/right wingers like you always remind me of this meme.
So when billionaires buy politicians who put in place laws that favour them over the will of voters, does that mean its no longer a democracy to you?
The ol'fallback to conspiracy theories.
There are billionaires on both sides if that's your argument.
Billionaires on both sides of what, skoob?
Now you're arguing that you don't support democracy at all, you support a plutocracy where the rich can buy whatever government they want and screw what the voters want?
I'm not the one who said wealthy people buy the government, you did.
All I said was that there are wealthy people on both sides ie of the political spectrum if you need it spelled out for you.
Would you rather a government who can never be voted out as long as they "take care" of you, a la Russia, a la China, etc? I think you have convinced yourself that would be better. You're not fooling anyone comrade.
This is your theory, that there are billionaires on both sides.
I've just provided info about right winger billionaires, go ahead and list the left wing ones if you've got names.
Meanwhile, you're now defending ending democracy because you think there are billionaires on 'both sides' who should be able to bribe politicians to do what they want. You just defended destroying democracy.
You're not fooling anyone.
This is what billionaires bought this week in the US.
Having the freedom to invest in yourself, innovate, become wealthy, ...is what democracy and freedom are.
You can stop twisting words anytime if you ever hope to be taken seriously.
Assuming you eat your own dog food so to speak...you don't think Soros has and continues to fund the leftist side of the equation?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/01/politics/democratic-billionaire-donors/index.html
You're still defending killing democracy by allowing billionaires to buy politicians.
Not only that, but you can only name one 'leftist' billionaire, which kills your only argument.
Why do you hate democracy?
There are billionaires on both political sides. A few openly democrat include:
Dustin Moskovitz
Michael Bloomberg
Irwin Jacobs
Warren Buffett
MacKenzie Scott
Pierre Omidyar
Ted Turner
Sidney Kimmel
Many billionaires support both political parties as it does not make business sense to put your eggs in 1 political basket.
Sure, the way that AIPAC buys dems and GOP politicians.
You think that makes it any better?
Don't you think a democracy is better than a plutocracy?
Don't you think politicians should listen to voters and not just billionaires?
