Conservatives win St Paul's byelection

[Frankfooter]

That's the thing.

People talk about how in Canada we are now seeing political divisions akin to US politics like we've never seen before. And there is truth in that. But when you look at it, it starts with Justin Trudeau .

In all my life, which is slipping more and more into decrepitude with each passing week, I've never seen such a divisive Prime Minister. He constantly insults and belittles ordinary Canadians who simply don't agree with him. We constantly get referred to as "racists", "misogynists", "islamophobes", "cruel", "small minded", "hateful", "homophobes", you name it. And for some, he suspends their constitutional rights, freezes their bank accounts, threatens to use the government to take away their children and holds them without bail for months.

These aren't his political rivals, these are ordinary Canadians he is constantly labeling as such. Just look at the rhetoric he and Freeland were using in the run-up to the by-election.

I can not think of a previous Prime Minister who ever behaved in such a reprehensible way in the past. Seriously. I don't recall Chretien, or Mulroney or PET ever calling Canadian people racists or misogynists. 45 percent of the population never would have voted for the Liberals and to Justin that means they are all racists and misogynist and homophobic. It's sick.

He's just like Hilary Clinton who labeled half of Americans "deplorables". No Hilary, they are citizens of the United States and the fact that they were not going to vote for you doesn't make them a deplorable.

Same goes to Poilievre, don't ever make that mistake. Don't label citizens who choose not to vote for you as anything but people you simply have a political disagreement with. In closing, i recall the late great John McCain who actually came to the defense of Barack Obama during political rallies when things got carried away. Can't imagine Justin Trudeau ever being a gentleman like that. And for that he deserves to lose.

You are worried about a leader who you think is dividing the country so would prefer the guy who marched with the anti vaxxers, is linked to incels and has never had a real job?

 

[Butler1000]

The dilemma lies in identifying a successor who can surpass the previous leader's performance. When Mulroney stepped down, Campbell's leadership led to significant electoral setbacks for the party in subsequent elections. A notable instance is the victory of a Loblaw lobbyist in St. Paul, exemplifying how voters can be influenced by misinformation campaigns. Allegations blaming Justin for inflation and various other issues contribute to this narrative

They are toast. Trudeau could go out to the Rudeau Canal tomorrow and walk on top of it and most of the nation would deride him for showing off and for not being able to swim.

He is long past his best before date both domestically and internationally.

The Liberals are just going to have to take their lumps the next election. As to who can take over, it's really a matter of WHO WOULD BE DUMB ENOUGH TO. Any new leader is the sacrificial lamb.

I'm betting any MP who can exit with a pension plan before next year will do so. Like Parrish did. Any who have to wait will take the beating but not spend much money for their campaign. Libs at this point maybe retain 30 seats. If the economy tanks further possibly a Campbellesque blood bath.

And Carney probably rides in as the new broom after this happens.

 

[mandrill]

That's the thing.

People talk about how in Canada we are now seeing political divisions akin to US politics like we've never seen before. And there is truth in that. But when you look at it, it starts with Justin Trudeau .

In all my life, which is slipping more and more into decrepitude with each passing week, I've never seen such a divisive Prime Minister. He constantly insults and belittles ordinary Canadians who simply don't agree with him. We constantly get referred to as "racists", "misogynists", "islamophobes", "cruel", "small minded", "hateful", "homophobes", you name it. And for some, he suspends their constitutional rights, freezes their bank accounts, threatens to use the government to take away their children and holds them without bail for months.

These aren't his political rivals, these are ordinary Canadians he is constantly labeling as such. Just look at the rhetoric he and Freeland were using in the run-up to the by-election.

I can not think of a previous Prime Minister who ever behaved in such a reprehensible way in the past. Seriously. I don't recall Chretien, or Mulroney or PET ever calling Canadian people racists or misogynists. 45 percent of the population never would have voted for the Liberals and to Justin that means they are all racists and misogynist and homophobic. It's sick.

He's just like Hilary Clinton who labeled half of Americans "deplorables". No Hilary, they are citizens of the United States and the fact that they were not going to vote for you doesn't make them a deplorable.

Same goes to Poilievre, don't ever make that mistake. Don't label citizens who choose not to vote for you as anything but people you simply have a political disagreement with. In closing, i recall the late great John McCain who actually came to the defense of Barack Obama during political rallies when things got carried away. Can't imagine Justin Trudeau ever being a gentleman like that. And for that he deserves to lose.

James, let's talk about what's REALLY happening.

The great - Russian-funded and China-supported - political revelation of the last 10 years is that there is a hardcore of less educated voters, often older and rural, who will hate-vote against any urban and progressive political platform. You just feed those voters slogans and buzzwords, point to a centrist political leader and rant about "the good old days" and let the dollars and votes roll in.

Steve Bannon worked this shtick out with Vlad Putin in the the early teens and voila Trump, Farage and now PeePee.

There's no content to this politics. It's just vague promises, hate and angry pseudo-nostalgia.

Biden's a smart enough guy and a good enough politician to (probably) deal with this. Trudeau is not and never has been. There is no good reason that Trudeau ever got to be PM. He's a drama teacher who looks good in a suit and smiles a lot. So while Biden can avoid obvious own goals in his quotes and speeches, Trudeau cannot.

What do you think PeePee is actually going to accomplish for Canadians when you decide you've had enough of Trudeau's dumb quips and vote the Tories in?

Has PeePee ever had a real job? Does he know any "real Canadians"? Does he have an actual policy position on anything? Does he have any real plans to deal with any of the crises that Canada is facing?

The housing crisis is a real fucking crisis that is wrecking this country. What does PeePee intend to do about it?

How about immigration? And the hit on CPP from aging Canadians and the falling birth rate?

The answer I get to all of that is.... PeePee doesn't give a fuck and will do dick-all about any of that shit.

PeePee's popular?........... Yeah, so was Boris Johnson when tens of millions of dumbass Brits believed that Brexit would suddenly make Britain the most prosperous country in the world again within 10 years. It was a classic rightie populist bullshit scam. Like everything Trump and PeePee say and do as well.

Try PeePee for 5 years. You'll be rid of the woke dickhead you despise. And you'll get a no-talent, Tory career insider who will do fuck-all to solve any real problems and come up with a series of Boris-style political gimmicks to survive in Ottawa. Like the new-style British Tories who are almost certainly about to lose the biggest landslide election in UK history.

Or maybe PeePee will suddenly invent Canexit or "Build a Wall".

 

[squeezer]

They are toast. Trudeau could go out to the Rudeau Canal tomorrow and walk on top of it and mist of the nation would decide him for showing off and fir not being able to swim.

He is long past his best before date both domestically and internationally.

The Liberals are just going to have to take their lumps the next election. As to who can take over, it's really a matter of WHO WOULD BE DUMB ENOUGH TO. Any new leader is the sacrificial lamb.

I'm betting any MP who can exit with a pension plan before next year will do so. Like Parrish did. Any who have to wait will take the beating but not spend much money for their campaign. Libs at this point maybe retain 30 seats. If the economy tanks further possibly a Campbellesque blood bath.

And Carney probably rides in as the new broom after this happens.

They didn't help themselves with the new capital gains tax that just clicked in yesterday. It was a badly thought desperation move. I just hope Pee Pee isn't smart enough to keep his mouth shut before the next election and steps in a pile of shit.

 

[mandrill]

They are toast. Trudeau could go out to the Rudeau Canal tomorrow and walk on top of it and mist of the nation would decide him for showing off and fir not being able to swim.

He is long past his best before date both domestically and internationally.

The Liberals are just going to have to take their lumps the next election. As to who can take over, it's really a matter of WHO WOULD BE DUMB ENOUGH TO. Any new leader is the sacrificial lamb.

I'm betting any MP who can exit with a pension plan before next year will do so. Like Parrish did. Any who have to wait will take the beating but not spend much money for their campaign. Libs at this point maybe retain 30 seats. If the economy tanks further possibly a Campbellesque blood bath.

And Carney probably rides in as the new broom after this happens.

Hey Butler!

It's a shame that your boy RFK Jr can't come up and run for PM in Canada, huh? Maybe Julian Assange could be his assistant PM?

 

[LickingG2]

They didn't help themselves with the new capital gains tax that just clicked in yesterday. It was a badly thought desperation move. I just hope Pee Pee isn't smart enough to keep his mouth shut before the next election and steps in a pile of shit.

I knew you secretly loved Justin or can I dare say b'ver-II

 

[Butler1000]

They didn't help themselves with the new capital gains tax that just clicked in yesterday. It was a badly thought desperation move. I just hope Pee Pee isn't smart enough to keep his mouth shut before the next election and steps in a pile of shit.

So far Pierre is quite focused and staying on message. That Apple eating bit and his interviews show he is going to be a very good campaigner. He is getting some viral action for his question period shots. Not getting the security clearance is letting him hammer the government relentlessly and they cant defend themselves without declassifying the information. No doubt he knows exactly what's in it, or has a Chinese Wall up with a Conservative MP who does. I don't see him tripping up. They have already long announced abortion is not a subject. And he will muzzle the few Alberta idiots. Any worsening of the economy and it will be a very real bloodbath.

 

[james t kirk]

You are worried about a leader who you think is dividing the country so would prefer the guy who marched with the anti vaxxers, is linked to incels and has never had a real job?

As opposed to a leader who marched with Black Lives Matter, had sex with underage girls he taught in a private high school in BC that led to him leaving in the middle of a semester with 0 notice and who is a trust fund baby who has never had a real job in his life AND paid a murdering terrorist scum bag 10.5 million dollars after he murdered an American medic?

 

[squeezer]

So far Pierre is quite focused and staying on message. That Apple eating bit and his interviews show he is going to be a very good campaigner. He is getting some viral action for his question period shots. Not getting the security clearance is letting him hammer the government relentlessly and they cant defend themselves without declassifying the information. No doubt he knows exactly what's in it, or has a Chinese Wall up with a Conservative MP who does. I don't see him tripping up. They have already long announced abortion is not a subject. And he will muzzle the few Alberta idiots. Any worsening of the economy and it will be a very real bloodbath.

I can't deny the Liberals are heading for a lynching but I will keep hoping for PEE PEE with the punchable face to step in it. Most Canadians will say, they do not like the Conservative leader but are tired of Justin more dammit!

 

[squeezer]

I knew you secretly loved Justin or can I dare say b'ver-II

I will take Justin over Pee Pee the walking piss stain any day and I've never said otherwise.

 

[richaceg]

I will take Justin over Pee Pee the walking piss stain any day and I've never said otherwise.

So just like anyone who wants to keep JT, you're ok with him constantly stepping on shit than peepee who may or may not step on shit....I am not surprised one bit.

 

[squeezer]

So just like anyone who wants to keep JT, you're ok with him constantly stepping on shit than peepee who may or may not step on shit....I am not surprised one bit.

Pee Pee once he takes the reins will be stepping in piles of runny, messy manure because he's an arrogant POS. I just hope you will be as hard on the piss stain as you seem to be on anyone on the left but I doubt it.

 

[GameBoy27]

PeePee is a career Tory insider with no qualifications to do anything but suck the dicks of rednecks who were part of the KKKonvoy. Let's see how THAT plays in the GE!

You're delusional if you think it's just rednecks who have him leading the polls. Tell me, how many rednecks do you think live in the St. Paul's riding? Can't wait to see the Trudeau fans heads explode after the next GE!

 

[Knuckle Ball]

As opposed to a leader who marched with Black Lives Matter, had sex with underage girls he taught in a private high school in BC that led to him leaving in the middle of a semester with 0 notice and who is a trust fund baby who has never had a real job in his life AND paid a murdering terrorist scum bag 10.5 million dollars after he murdered an American medic?

When you spew nonsense you lose credibility. Posts like this are why no one takes you seriously.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

You're delusional if you think it's just rednecks who have him leading the polls. Tell me, how many rednecks do you think live in the St. Paul's riding? Can't wait to see the Trudeau fans heads explode after the next GE!

If JT loses we will just claim the election was rigged, storm the capital, and take power by force…because that’s what normal people do, right?

 

[Knuckle Ball]

They are toast. Trudeau could go out to the Rudeau Canal tomorrow and walk on top of it and most of the nation would deride him for showing off and for not being able to swim.

He is long past his best before date both domestically and internationally.

The Liberals are just going to have to take their lumps the next election. As to who can take over, it's really a matter of WHO WOULD BE DUMB ENOUGH TO. Any new leader is the sacrificial lamb.

I'm betting any MP who can exit with a pension plan before next year will do so. Like Parrish did. Any who have to wait will take the beating but not spend much money for their campaign. Libs at this point maybe retain 30 seats. If the economy tanks further possibly a Campbellesque blood bath.

And Carney probably rides in as the new broom after this happens.

This election is looking more rigged every day! True patriots are gonna have to fight like hell to save democracy!

 

[Carvher]

Trudeau should resign, not because he is bad, but because the fake internet hyperbole is too much to overcome. People just hate him... because his face is too symmetrical or something. So a rebranding is in order with a new face at the helm. Is Bob Rae still young enough? He was unfairly tarnished in the 80's by both sides for choosing the correct middle path. He is brilliant and can wax poetically without notes.

When Bob Rae was premier, he taxed dirt. I'm not kidding!
He would be taxing cow farts and probably my farts if he knew how much I farted.

 

[Skoob]

If they are it wouldn't be anything we haven't seen in the past with leaders from all parties. 8 to 10 years is a good run for a party leader, especially if they are PM.

Ok so we're due right?
btw a PM's tenure is truly judged once they're gone. History will show that JT was the worst PM of all time regardless of tenure.

 

[Skoob]

And no government is going to let trolls occupy a major city for 3 weeks and do nothing.

...except violate the country's Charter of Rights like all oppressive regimes do?

 

[Skoob]

Pee Pee once he takes the reins will be stepping in piles of runny, messy manure because he's an arrogant POS. I just hope you will be as hard on the piss stain as you seem to be on anyone on the left but I doubt it.

Everything you claim Poilievre will step in will be remnants of the previous Liberal government including piles the public is not aware of yet. There's a lot to clean up after a decade of corruption and incompetence.
Give him a decade and then cast judgement.