FFS! Hezbollah has been rocketing northern Israel non stop for months!
What the fuck country is going to put the fuck up with that?!?!?!
Israel at war
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What the fuck country is going to put the fuck up with that?!?!?!
Ahh, so we are back to the "This is a thing I - Butler - believe, therefore it must be true" standard?
Are you now denying that you said Israel should commit war crimes (such as offering no quarter)?
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Goddammit! That's a shame she's wearing panties!x.com
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LOL...I see a future parking lot attendant here.
I had my hopes up there!
Klatty
You've been living on borrowed time for a few weeks now and your existence has been pre conditioned on me not visiting the Gaza threads for a while. But your endless junk diet of Munayyer and Blumenthal and 2 or 3 others must finally come to an end.
Adios, amigo! Onto ignore you go.
But since she won't, you have a dilemma about what to do with your vote.
It would be nice if the US had an electoral system that didn't create that problem, but it does.
Then why are you fixated on not voting or third party voting, which will accomplish none of this?
This is all about actually voting though.
It is about thinking through the consequences of voting in the system as it is and making choices.
Or are you now saying just "anyone who takes AIPAC money must be voted out regardless of any other position they take"?
Which is very possible with you.
So you've just decided to abandon reality completely at this point?
You're the one who keeps saying he has to lose to make the dems learn and that even him changing his position wouldn't be enough because it is too late and he has to lose.
Of course your vote isn't an illustration of your personal morality.
Who on earth would want to pretend that it is in a compromised system?
That's the same idiocy as "You think Capitalism is a problem, and yet you still use money" as an argument.
Of course they can!
And pointing out that voting that way is stupid and counter-productive is just pointing out reality to them.
That you don't like me pointing out reality doesn't prevent reality from existing.
People who voted against a candidate because of their hair style will also be voting in an extremely stupid way.
I'm glad you understand this.
What a deeply ignorant thing to say.
That you cling to this delusion is the whole point of this argument and really I should drop it because it is clear you are never going to abandon your fantasy.
The First Past the Post system does not allow for that.
In fact, it works against it.
This is the whole point of why it needs to be changed.
Voting "honestly" in this system leads to worse outcomes.
Until you understand that, you understand nothing.
And your argument would be silly and ridiculous, because you don't understand voting systems.
There is serious question about how large either of those counter-reactions will be, though.
A lot would depend on what the actual policy shift was, of course - along with how it is handled, the messaging, the GOP response, and so on.
It's one theory of the case, but I don't think that's definitive.
One that has to be careful about how much they escalate a war.
But Bibi and company have talked about finding ways to strike at Iran as well.
It isn't like they don't want to do it, they just don't think they can get away with either right now.
Trump would be an idiot not to jump on the "Senile Joe's a terrorist supporter now!" bus. But then, Trump is an idiot.
The other wild card is how many synagogues the Hamas lovers attack in the USA and whether the backlash increases towards them There's only so much Jew-baiting, art destroying and traffic stopping the purple-hair-and-keffiyeh peeps can do before they bleed away any and all support from the normies.
I think anything more than a random missile hit on Iran is a pipe dream. They can take Hezbollah pretty easily though. Guys shouting "Inshallah!" and waving AK's and RPG's don't hold up for long against Merkavas, artillery and tac air. Just like in Gaza right now.
As you've told us, everything happens for a reason. That would include Islamophobia. I assume.
So if this isn't a long standing USA policy then you are stating Joe Biden is solely responsible for starting it, delivering the arms that are being used, and his Genocide Joe moniker is correct.
Well no wonder the Dem base is up in arms.
1- Pro Israel vote is tiny, both here and in the US. Even amongst Jews support for zionism is fading.
2 - The infighting with dems is between progressives and those funded by AIPAC now.
There is no dilemma.
Don't vote for genocide, don't vote for rapist conmen.
Voting for Biden also won't change the system, so why should I choose that?
Genocide is a red line, as is rape and fraud. I personally won't vote for anyone who is a rapist, conman or genocidal.
AIPAC is the next target, they are like the NRA but worse, a lobbying group representing a few genocidal billionaires acting on behalf of a foreign, terrorist state.
Is that what you tell Maple Leaf and Blue Jays fans?
Your argument is to give up hoping for change and just back genocide because the rapist/conman is coming.
That winning is the only thing that matters even if you win with a genocidal maniac.
I'm saying that months ago 57% of those who voted for Biden last time said Israel is committing genocide. Aiding genocide is a red line for me. I wouldn't vote for Pol Pot, I wouldn't vote for Hitler and I wouldn't vote for Netanyahu or Biden. You argue that you have to vote for them because they are the only ones that can win.
Right, so you'd vote for Hitler because he'd promise better university funding and because it wouldn't reflect on your morality.
Telling people they are stupid for not voting the way you want them to vote isn't pointing out reality. All that's doing is pointing out your own ivory tower belief in the supremacy of your own views. Arguing that people should vote for genocide based on your own supremacist belief in your own intellect works only to taint your own argument. Trying to argue that its counter productive to not 'reward' genocide while arguing that your own understanding of history and politics is itself supremacist is an automatic failing grade in reality.
Your argument is that you must vote dishonestly to fix the system?
How do you think that works?
Please explain how this will fix the system.
Your superior understanding argues you must vote 'dishonestly' to fix a system by 'rewarding' someone you admit is aiding genocide.
This is supposed to convince other people on the board to change their views?
Netanyahu wants war with Iran but wants the US to fight it on their behalf.
He tried by bombing that Iranian embassy in Syria but nobody bit.
Lebanon is a war he thinks he can win but hopefully thinks just the threat of it is enough.
His generals don't want it but Netanyahu doesn't listen to anyone.
AIPAC needs to go the way of the NRA.
Save the children.
GAZA'S MISSING CHILDREN: OVER 20,000 CHILDREN ESTIMATED TO BE LOST, DISAPPEARED, DETAINED, BURIED UNDER THE RUBBLE OR IN MASS GRAVES
But don't hold this against Biden, its still more rational and pragmatic to vote for him we've been told.
120,000 wounded or killed, with tens of thousands more buried in rubble.
Gaza’s death toll rises
Gaza’s Health Ministry says Israeli attacks have killed at least 37,658 people and wounded 86,237 others since the start of the war.
It added that 32 people were killed and 139 wounded during the latest 24-hour reporting period.
GAZA'S MISSING CHILDREN: OVER 20,000 CHILDREN ESTIMATED TO BE LOST, DISAPPEARED, DETAINED, BURIED UNDER THE RUBBLE OR IN MASS GRAVES
But don't hold this against Biden, its still more rational and pragmatic to vote for him we've been told.
120,000 wounded or killed, with tens of thousands more buried in rubble.
Gaza’s death toll rises
Gaza’s Health Ministry says Israeli attacks have killed at least 37,658 people and wounded 86,237 others since the start of the war.
It added that 32 people were killed and 139 wounded during the latest 24-hour reporting period.
