The Effect of the Wonderful World of Unfettered Capitalistic Greed on the Housing Market

Skoob

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Thanks for admitting you cherry picked. Finally. It's taken this long to get that out of you.

By the way there was nothing to cherry pick in yours. The only relevant bit was to point out your cherry picking which is what we have been discussing. The rest were ad-hominems that you like to include with every post because you know you don't have a defensible point.
The grass is pink.
We need to do something to turn the grass green.
The grass is not pink.


That's not cherry picking. That's highlighting nonsense.

You seem confused here. Maybe you should just give it up rather than basing your argument on similar nonsense to distract from your failure.
 

Skoob

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All you do is troll.

What you will not and can never do, is discuss the issues with capitalism.
Capitalism drives innovation which leads to prosperity and wealth. hint: that's where taxes come from Comrade.

But we all know you're just someone who thinks he's fooling everyone by calling Communism "socialism" and just feels entitled to everyone else's money.
 

Skoob

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That is not what he said. That is again, a cherry picking to mischaracterize what he said to spin your own narratives. You seem to be having difficulty with reading comprehension. Trudeau was not trying to tell you HOW he was going to accomplish a balanced budget. That wasn't even the question. He was saying that a balanced budget was less important than taking care of Canadians and added on criticism of conservative methods of artificially balancing budgets by cutting services.

Ah. Tell me you lost the debate without telling me you lost the debate. Skoob's favourite tactic of declaring victories that don't exist when he knows he pwned himself. 🐸😂
Says the guy who keeps saying he wants to know HOW Poilievre is going to make Canada better.

Tell me you're not a hypocrite without telling me you're a hypocrite.

ps a balanced budget is very important. Do you even know why or are you just clueless on that subject?
 

Frankfooter

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Capitalism drives innovation which leads to prosperity and wealth. hint: that's where taxes come from Comrade.

But we all know you're just someone who thinks he's fooling everyone by calling Communism "socialism" and just feels entitled to everyone else's money.
Right and socialism is evil you claim.
Even though you refuse to understand its not black and white, that you love some socialism but never want to pay for it.
Police, public roads, public schools, public health care......

None of which you want to pay for.
That's the real issues, you're just a selfish, cheapskate right winger who wants to ride on the goodwill of the rest of us.
 

Skoob

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Right and socialism is evil you claim.
Even though you refuse to understand its not black and white, that you love some socialism but never want to pay for it.
Police, public roads, public schools, public health care......

None of which you want to pay for.
That's the real issues, you're just a selfish, cheapskate right winger who wants to ride on the goodwill of the rest of us.
Says the guy who just wants to take more and more money from people who just happen to have more wealth.
Funding roads, police, schools, was never an issue in the past compared to now. So that argument fails every time.
The government has mismanaged the money and their solution is to just ask for more and more to make up for their incompetence and goal to to just get re-elected by bribing us with our own money.

Appears the Liberals have convinced you that someone who earns more money than you is responsible for your failure.
 

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Says the guy who just wants to take more and more money from people who just happen to have more wealth.
Funding roads, police, schools, was never an issue in the past compared to now. So that argument fails every time.
You don't even realize when you make a statement that proves my point.
Funny how giving tax breaks to corporations and the rich means the government has less to spend on services, isn't it?
 

Skoob

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You don't even realize when you make a statement that proves my point.
Funny how giving tax breaks to corporations and the rich means the government has less to spend on services, isn't it?
The money (and more) is there. Mismanagement of that money and prioritizing stupid pet-projects is the reason why they want more and more. Lazy politicking. They have convinced you that the problem is with the wealthy and the companies that provide jobs. You swallowed that completely.

btw Take away all the tax breaks to corporations. Walk me through how much better that would be in your mind. Then convince me you're not a Communist.

I'll wait...
 

Skoob

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Yes and if the reporter wanted to know how Trudeau was going to balance the budget, then he should have asked that question, like I asked you how Pee Pee was going to make Canada better - to which neither you, nor Pee Pee seem to have an answer. The reporter in this case did not. So Trudeau was not required to answer a question that was not asked of him.
The reporter asked him how committed he was to balancing the budget and as usual, he started speaking and not making sense because he has no idea what he's talking about if someone else doesn't provide him a script.

Remember "the economy is people, not numbers" ...that's what happens when he starts talking about things he doesn't understand because he knows people like you will just blindly listen to what he's saying and "feel good" about it.

You asked me how Poilievre was going to make Canada better and I answered you with the info available ie get rid of the carbon tax, reduce inflationary spending, etc...but you wanted to see specific policies which I told you have not been released this far from the election but you continued to scrutinize him based on that.

yet with Trudeau you just give him a pass when he speaks nonsense.

THAT is the level of your hypocrisy.
 
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Frankfooter

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The money (and more) is there. Mismanagement of that money and prioritizing stupid pet-projects is the reason why they want more and more. Lazy politicking. They have convinced you that the problem is with the wealthy and the companies that provide jobs. You swallowed that completely.

btw Take away all the tax breaks to corporations. Walk me through how much better that would be in your mind. Then convince me you're not a Communist.

I'll wait...
Pet projects like $650 million for a parking lot for a foreign spa?
Like billions for the 417?
Like $1 million for a business plan?
Like $1 billion to cancel contracts and put beer in corner stores?
Like $2 billion in lost revenue to cut out the LCBO?
Like how many billions for badly managed Metrolinx projects?
Like $8 billion for the Greenbelt scandal?
Like $200 million for cancelled renewable contracts they are now redoing?

You think that's why we can't afford health care, education and social services?
You might have a point.
 

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Don't forget that dofo waived licence plate renewal fees ..... why? I get that that saves the poor $75 a year but that is just part of the cost of owning a car. But for every million cars we, the people the province, lose $75,000,000 a year. Could that pay for maintaining our infrastructure, could that help our health care, could that have helped maintain the science centre. If there are 10 million cars in Ontario (I don't know), that amounts to 3/4 of a billion dollars. Over 4 years that is 3 billion dollars and counting!

In my opinion, that is without doubt the absolute stupidest thing our infamous provincial PM has done. Why isn't everybody up in arms over it?
 

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That's two from 1992 who are still in holes in the ground without a view.

Who do you think built these shoebox condos? Answer - Private sector developers.

Who do you think bought more than 70% of these shoebox condos? - Investors and speculators

What market segment did these developers build these shoebox condos for? - Investors and speculators, both corporate and mom and pop shops.

Is it really too much to ask for ninnies to use analytical skills to see the connection? - Yes, yes it is.

As if building large lot single family $3milliom McMansions in the Greenbelt and farmers field will help solve the housing affordability crisis.

Investors and speculators have cornered the market for housing and everyone else loses.
Why would anyone want to live di
Don't forget that dofo waived licence plate renewal fees ..... why? I get that that saves the poor $75 a year but that is just part of the cost of owning a car. But for every million cars we, the people the province, lose $75,000,000 a year. Could that pay for maintaining our infrastructure, could that help our health care, could that have helped maintain the science centre. If there are 10 million cars in Ontario (I don't know), that amounts to 3/4 of a billion dollars. Over 4 years that is 3 billion dollars and counting!

In my opinion, that is without doubt the absolute stupidest thing our infamous provincial PM has done. Why isn't everybody up in arms over it?
Every dollar out of the governments pocket is a win for us peasants. Governments never fail to blow money on dumb shit.
 

The Oracle

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Yes and if the reporter wanted to know how Trudeau was going to balance the budget, then he should have asked that question, like I asked you how Pee Pee was going to make Canada better - to which neither you, nor Pee Pee seem to have an answer. The reporter in this case did not. So Trudeau was not required to answer a question that was not asked of him.
Now you're resorting to calling Mr. Poilievre names as well as the other unhinged Leftists on here, lol.

The spiral down continues...Very amusing I must say.
 
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Skoob

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Pet projects like $650 million for a parking lot for a foreign spa?
Like billions for the 417?
Like $1 million for a business plan?
Like $1 billion to cancel contracts and put beer in corner stores?
Like $2 billion in lost revenue to cut out the LCBO?
Like how many billions for badly managed Metrolinx projects?
Like $8 billion for the Greenbelt scandal?
Like $200 million for cancelled renewable contracts they are now redoing?

You think that's why we can't afford health care, education and social services?
You might have a point.
That's a funny list which I'll ignore and highlight the one point that explains your whole misleading narrative.

Show me where $8 billion was spent on the greenbelt...I'll wait...

How's your ArriveScam app working btw?
 

Skoob

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Don't forget that dofo waived licence plate renewal fees ..... why? I get that that saves the poor $75 a year but that is just part of the cost of owning a car. But for every million cars we, the people the province, lose $75,000,000 a year. Could that pay for maintaining our infrastructure, could that help our health care, could that have helped maintain the science centre. If there are 10 million cars in Ontario (I don't know), that amounts to 3/4 of a billion dollars. Over 4 years that is 3 billion dollars and counting!

In my opinion, that is without doubt the absolute stupidest thing our infamous provincial PM has done. Why isn't everybody up in arms over it?
First off, it was $120 per year. (if you owned a car in the province you would know that)
Why would that just be dismissed as the cost of owning a car when we already pay taxes for roads, fuel, etc?

It's not about collecting more money; it's about managing the money we currently have.
You can collect all the money you want but if it's not managed well, it really doesn't matter.

Also not sure why everyone is bent out of shape about the science centre moving...that was the plan since the Liberals were in power. No surprise.
Makes sense to move it finally.
 

Skoob

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There you go. The reporter asked him how committed he was to balancing the budget. Not how he was going to balance the budget. 2 very different questions. So he answered that his commitment is to the people first. And he is right. The economy is the people. Not numbers. The numbers are a result of people producing things. This is also why with an increase in population the GDP goes up.

So in sum, he answered the question he was asked. He was not asked how he was going to accomplish this and had he been asked and had he launched into a PP style diatribe, then you'd have a point. In this case you are simply cherry picking and mischaracterizing his response.
It's funny watching Trudeau supporters bend over backwards defending his stupidity.
You must be desperate.

I'm sure you'll miss him when he's gone but in some capacity, be relieved you don't have to keep defending a moron.

It would be a lot easier to just admit he has no clue and just talks stupidly when he's asked a question he can't answer and relies on experts in his party to actually know what's going on.
Rather than twisting yourself upside-down to make excuses.
 
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