The Discussion That Anti-Zionism is Not Anti-Semitism

shack

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You know what is totally fucked?
The US prepped exactly what Israel asked for and had it passed as a UNSC resolution.
And still Israel won't accept it.
Total bald-faced lie, Geno.

Hamas came back today with multiple revisions to that joint Israeli/US/UNSC peace offer. Hamas, just like you, do not want peace. Sinwar has said that loss of civilian lives is required for Hamas to achieve their goals.

Israeli war updates: Hamas changed, 'rejected' truce deal, Israel says (usatoday.com)

Exclusive | Gaza Chief’s Brutal Calculation: Civilian Bloodshed Will Help Hamas - WSJ

For months, Yahya Sinwar has resisted pressure to cut a ceasefire-and-hostages deal with Israel. Behind his decision, messages the Hamas military leader in Gaza has sent to mediators show, is a calculation that more fighting—and more Palestinian civilian deaths—work to his advantage.

“We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Sinwar said in a recent message to Hamas officials seeking to broker an agreement with Qatari and Egyptian officials.


Hamas are savages and liars and you support them Geno.
 

Frankfooter

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Total bald-faced lie, Geno.

Hamas came back today with multiple revisions to that joint Israeli/US/UNSC peace offer. Hamas, just like you, do not want peace. Sinwar has said that loss of civilian lives is required for Hamas to achieve their goals.

Israeli war updates: Hamas changed, 'rejected' truce deal, Israel says (usatoday.com)

Exclusive | Gaza Chief’s Brutal Calculation: Civilian Bloodshed Will Help Hamas - WSJ

For months, Yahya Sinwar has resisted pressure to cut a ceasefire-and-hostages deal with Israel. Behind his decision, messages the Hamas military leader in Gaza has sent to mediators show, is a calculation that more fighting—and more Palestinian civilian deaths—work to his advantage.

“We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Sinwar said in a recent message to Hamas officials seeking to broker an agreement with Qatari and Egyptian officials.


Hamas are savages and liars and you support them Geno.
Its exactly as I said.
The US pushed through a ceasefire resolution that gave Israel everything they asked for and they still won't abide or agree.
Hamas sent it back saying they agree if the siege is ended and the ceasefire is permanent.

All you want is more death and more Palestinian land.

More than 60% of Gaza residents report losing family members in war: Poll

A poll by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research has also found that nearly 80 percent of Gaza residents polled say that at least one of their family members has been killed or injured in the current Israeli war.
Nevertheless, two-thirds of the public support the October 7 Hamas attack on Israel and nearly 80 percent believe it has placed the Palestinian issue at the centre of global attention, according to the polling data.
The survey explains, “It is important to note that support for this attack, as we will see later, does not necessarily mean support for Hamas and does not mean support for any killings or atrocities committed against civilians.
Support comes from another motive: findings suggest that more than 80 percent of Palestinians believe that the attack has put the Palestinian issue at the center of attention and eliminated years of neglect at the regional and international levels.”
The survey includes respondents from the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, but does not include residents of the northern Gaza Strip who remained in their homes since the beginning of the war due to the inability of researchers to reach them and the lack of reliable data on their numbers and whereabouts.
Findings indicate that two-thirds of the public expect Hamas to win the war on Gaza, but this percentage drops to only about half in the Gaza Strip. Also, only half of Gaza Palestinians expect Hamas to return to controlling the Strip after the war.
Demand for Palestinian Authority President Abbas’s resignation is increasing, the findings suggested, as well as a rise in the popularity of Hamas and Marwan Barghouti. The survey also indicates a significant drop in the Gaza Strip in support for the two-state solution, while support for armed struggle rises and support for dissolving the PA stands at more than 60 percent.
 

shack

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Its exactly as I said.
The US pushed through a ceasefire resolution that gave Israel everything they asked for and they still won't abide or agree.
Hamas sent it back saying they agree if the siege is ended and the ceasefire is permanent.
Total BS.
 

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Your post are getting more fucked every day...
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Again, the text of the UNSC resolution was:
1. Welcomes the new ceasefire proposal announced on May 31, which Israel accepted, calls upon Hamas to also accept it, and urges both parties to fully implement its terms without delay and without condition;




You really need some help.
 

basketcase

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Its exactly as I said.
The US pushed through a ceasefire resolution that gave Israel everything they asked for and they still won't abide or agree.
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And making excuses for Hamas rejecting yet another ceasefire.

You keep talking about the UN whenever some fringe faction criticizes Israel but here you are praising Hamas for rejecting a UNSC resolution.
 

Frankfooter

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Again, the text of the UNSC resolution was:
1. Welcomes the new ceasefire proposal announced on May 31, which Israel accepted, calls upon Hamas to also accept it, and urges both parties to fully implement its terms without delay and without condition;




You really need some help.
Biden had Blinken take this ceasefire plan to the UN, declaring that Israel had already agree to it.
Now they are making Biden look idiotic by stating that they never agreed to it and that they only want a temporary truce to get back hostages before they continue with their plan to kill everyone they declare to be Hamas.

Even when the US gave Netanyahu everything he wanted they still wouldn't agree.
This is not on Hamas, Hamas has offered ceasefire deals repeatedly since Oct.

Netanyahu has dreamed of genocide for a long time, he won't stop.


 

Frankfooter

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And making excuses for Hamas rejecting yet another ceasefire.

You keep talking about the UN whenever some fringe faction criticizes Israel but here you are praising Hamas for rejecting a UNSC resolution.
Has Israel agreed to this ceasefire?
No.

Will they?
No.

Israel is the occupying power, the one committing genocide.
They are the ones that must stop.

 

basketcase

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Has Israel agreed to this ceasefire?
...
As the UN said, it's an Israeli offer.

As the UN said, Hamas rejected it.


p.s. Do you want videos of what Hamas-type extremists feel when Jews visit Judaism's holiest site? Don't need to though because you have repeatedly tried to push the religious incitement portraying Jews as "raiding" or "assaulting" when the reality was people peacefully walking around. Just another case where your racist double standard shows as you have claimed to dislike religion but you happily endorse Islamists who incite against Jews.
 

Frankfooter

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p.s. Do you want videos of what Hamas-type extremists feel when Jews visit Judaism's holiest site? Don't need to though because you have repeatedly tried to push the religious incitement portraying Jews as "raiding" or "assaulting" when the reality was people peacefully walking around. Just another case where your racist double standard shows as you have claimed to dislike religion but you happily endorse Islamists who incite against Jews.
You're talking about the annual Flag Day parade, a tradition where settlers yell 'death to Arabs' while they attack Palestinians?

 
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