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[Skoob]

None of it confuses me, skoob.
You don't understand that courses are generally 10 week contracts with exam time on top. You don't understand that profs and teachers have free time and can protest during that free time and you don't understand that the fall and spring terms are time when the vast majority of classes happen.
So you are totally unable to understand that the U of T and other Canadian protests are not happening during the busy time of school.

You'd know this if you had a university education.

That's why you get stuck on the same failed argument over and over again and no matter what anyone posts you will ask the same stupid question over and over again and then declare you won the debate. You're just not very bright.

You argued that teachers are not protesting during teaching times and can't prove that they're not.
I provided a schedule that shows that classes happen year-round. The likelihood that they are protesting while being paid to teach is far greater than what you are incorrectly assuming.

You are trying to desperately peddle the notion that teachers are protesting when not in class, preparing course materials, grading papers, meeting with students, attending faculty meetings, etc etc all of which is their responsibility as teachers and based on the year-round schedule.

 

[Frankfooter]

You argued that teachers are not protesting during teaching times and can't prove that they're not.
I provided a schedule that shows that classes happen year-round. The likelihood that they are protesting while being paid to teach is far greater than what you are incorrectly assuming.

You are trying to desperately peddle the notion that teachers are protesting when not in class, preparing course materials, grading papers, meeting with students, attending faculty meetings, etc etc all of which is their responsibility as teachers and based on the year-round schedule.

The schedule backed my claims, skoob, not yours.
If you had ever been to university you would have understood.

Most of the protests happened after spring exams and before any summer courses, which are generally much smaller.
Any university educated person would know this.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1799473528686969161

 

[Skoob]

The schedule backed my claims, skoob, not yours.
If you had ever been to university you would have understood.

Most of the protests happened after spring exams and before any summer courses, which are generally much smaller.
Any university educated person would know this.

The schedule...that you ignored, does not back your claims. There is overlap between semesters...you would know that if you checked it.
May explain why you never amounted to anything in a higher education capacity.

 

[bver_hunter]

Sounds like teachers have it bad. Why do they stay in these jobs? I mean having to work 9 months per year and still make what they make must be awful right? And then (gasp!) retire and enjoy full pensions that we all paid for while they were "unhappy" in their careers.

No other province other than Ontario pays teachers double their salary after 10 years. Double.

Depending on the level of school, a teacher needs a bachelors degree plus 1 year of teachers college to become a teacher. Not exactly an astounding higher education investment to use as an argument.

You can't compare to the private sector. The private sector depends on the company succeeding in order to reward employees with things like bonuses. Apples/oranges.

You are making the point as to why there are teacher shortages. If one goes into the Private Sector they can earn far more than teachers. We all know that teachers are essential to our education system and the future of Canadians. Why take other provinces into consideration when teachers starting salaries are lower than several other provinces? In ten years time someone with a BSc. degree in let's say a Pharmaceutical company can earn around $150,000 including performance bonuses and company annual profits etc. Something that is far beyond a teachers salary. The private sector does jack up their rates so that their staff salaries especially in the higher echelons are raised accordingly.

Public Sector Education is NOT about Profits but working for the future well being of our children, and maybe you should be grateful to a teacher if you are contented with your education and profession. Stop complaining about your teacher !!

Figure 1: Changes in average real hourly wages public vs. private sector workers

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Teachers generally have to work outside school hours to assess their students performances, tests, exams and curriculum. Generally, once private sector workers go home that is it!!

 

[Frankfooter]

The schedule...that you ignored, does not back your claims. There is overlap between semesters...you would know that if you checked it.
May explain why you never amounted to anything in a higher education capacity.

No, you are wrong and not smart enough to understand it.

Why do you keep trying to take this conversation off topic, skoob.
This is a discussion on DoFo and his corruption and waste.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1800271191158014366

 

[Anbarandy]

No, you are wrong and not smart enough to understand it.

Why do you keep trying to take this conversation off topic, skoob.
This is a discussion on DoFo and his corruption and waste.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1800271191158014366

The first thing that hypocritical, fake folksy populist sock puppet of developers and private interests did when he squatted atop Queen's Park was to slash City of Toronto Council from 47 to 25 council seats citing lean, clean gov't as his goal.

Fast forward 6 scandal plagued years and now the tub of malarkey floats his cabinet ark on a sea of taxpayers funded gravy. From Ontario PCs in opposition promising to cut the cabinet from 27 members to 16 to the developer's and private interest's best friend bloating his cabinet to 36 overstaffed, overpaid, on vacation for 4 months fat cat members.

How's that for typical fake folksy Fordian hypocrisy.

 

[Frankfooter]

Its pretty shocking how much DoFo is costing Ontario.
Cons just waste public money again and again.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1800271819192361334

 

[Skoob]

You are making the point as to why there are teacher shortages. If one goes into the Private Sector they can earn far more than teachers. We all know that teachers are essential to our education system and the future of Canadians. Why take other provinces into consideration when teachers starting salaries are lower than several other provinces? In ten years time someone with a BSc. degree in let's say a Pharmaceutical company can earn around $150,000 including performance bonuses and company annual profits etc. Something that is far beyond a teachers salary. The private sector does jack up their rates so that their staff salaries especially in the higher echelons are raised accordingly.

Public Sector Education is NOT about Profits but working for the future well being of our children, and maybe you should be grateful to a teacher if you are contented with your education and profession. Stop complaining about your teacher !!

Figure 1: Changes in average real hourly wages public vs. private sector workers

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Teachers generally have to work outside school hours to assess their students performances, tests, exams and curriculum. Generally, once private sector workers go home that is it!!

If one goes to the private sector, they can't hold hostages and they can be fired.

 

[Frankfooter]

If one goes to the private sector, they can't hold hostages and they can be fired.

What a weird theory.
Have you ever had a job, skoob?

 

[Skoob]

What a weird theory.
Have you ever had a job, skoob?

Do you find the truth weird?

 

[Skoob]

The first thing that hypocritical, fake folksy populist sock puppet of developers and private interests did when he squatted atop Queen's Park was to slash City of Toronto Council from 47 to 25 council seats citing lean, clean gov't as his goal.

Fast forward 6 scandal plagued years and now the tub of malarkey floats his cabinet ark on a sea of taxpayers funded gravy. From Ontario PCs in opposition promising to cut the cabinet from 27 members to 16 to the developer's and private interest's best friend bloating his cabinet to 36 overstaffed, overpaid, on vacation for 4 months fat cat members.

How's that for typical fake folksy Fordian hypocrisy.

He should have reduced city council to less than 25 councilors. I still don't forgive him for stopping short of that. So only part marks on that one.

 

[Skoob]

No, you are wrong and not smart enough to understand it.

Why do you keep trying to take this conversation off topic, skoob.
This is a discussion on DoFo and his corruption and waste.

The waste is the public sector unions. Perfectly on topic.
He should be doing more to widdle them down. That's why you need to support him for at least another 2 majority terms so he can get that done.

 

[Frankfooter]

Do you find the truth weird?

I would find it weird if you finally started telling the truth at this point.

Why do you still back DoFo?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1799911968821723348

 

[Frankfooter]

He should have reduced city council to less than 25 councilors. I still don't forgive him for stopping short of that. So only part marks on that one.

So why cut Toronto city council and then increase his own provincial cabinet?

 

[bver_hunter]

If one goes to the private sector, they can't hold hostages and they can be fired.

So you are saying that there are no union strikes etc in the private sector?
Obviously, you are not following the news.
The only ones holding communities and the Nation "hostage" were The FreeDumb Convoy. Do you support what they did?

 

[Skoob]

I would find it weird if you finally started telling the truth at this point.

Why do you still back DoFo?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1799911968821723348

I would find it weird if you finally stopped responding in short bursts of cryptic distracting comments and expect anyone to actually follow what you're saying.

 

[Skoob]

So you are saying that there are no union strikes etc in the private sector?
Obviously, you are not following the news.
The only ones holding communities and the Nation "hostage" were The FreeDumb Convoy. Do you support what they did?

Union strikes in the private sector are different.
Why?
Because if the union strikes too long and/or demands too much, the business could suffer resulting in closure or moving elsewhere.

Public sector...not so much. They have a captive audience and an apparent endless supply of money to extort from the very people who use their services and pay for their golden pensions.

 

[Skoob]

So why cut Toronto city council and then increase his own provincial cabinet?

Because city council is dysfunctional and can't agree on lunch.

 

[Frankfooter]

Because city council is dysfunctional and can't agree on lunch.

No, skoob, wrong again.
Given the chance, you back corruption and wasting money every single time.
Then you blame poor people and demand more right wingers like DoFo who have given Ontario the biggest deficit, the most corruption and the biggest service cuts.

 

[Skoob]

No, skoob, wrong again.
Given the chance, you back corruption and wasting money every single time.
Then you blame poor people and demand more right wingers like DoFo who have given Ontario the biggest deficit, the most corruption and the biggest service cuts.

Except that everything you claim is unsubstantiated bullshit. Every single item you mentioned is just driven by your DoFo hatred.

btw he won two majorities...which by your own measure makes you wrong because any time anyone disagrees with you, your fallback is to attack them by saying more people disagree with them.

So you're wrong.