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Angel Hernandez-Good Riddance!!

onomatopoeia

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@shack: You seem to be having difficulty when I explain this in words. I'll try again, with pictures.

Here is a better resolution video of the same pitch sequence:


In THIS post, I'll show a sequence of screen captures in chronological order of the first pitch from the video in post #7. In the next post, I'll do the same for pitch #'s two and three.

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onomatopoeia

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Pitch #3:
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The ball is directly in front of the umpire's left wrist.
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The ball is in the upper left portion of the strike zone box.
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The ball is almost in the catcher's glove.

Now, please explain to me why you think these pitches are not strikes.
 

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Bobby Clarke always was a slimeball.

He fired Roger Nielson when he got cancer and justified it by saying "Well, we didn't tell him to get cancer."
I was going to sat the same thing. However, instead of slimeball I was going to call 'Booby' Clark a POS. How he became a part of the Admin team blows my mind.

But glad Angel is gone. Totally changed the outcome of hundreds of games by calling the wrong calls
 

telus

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I was going to sat the same thing. However, instead of slimeball I was going to call 'Booby' Clark a POS. How he became an executive of the Flyers organization blows my mind. He was notoriously dirty, constantly giving cheapshots and relying on his goons to protect him. Then firing his coach for getting cancer and saying "we didn't tell him to get cancer" what a classless pos. Not to mention his actions, or lack of almost has Lindros lose his life.

But glad Angel is gone. Totally changed the outcome of hundreds of games by calling the wrong calls
 

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Pitch #3:
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The ball is directly in front of the umpire's left wrist.
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The ball is in the upper left portion of the strike zone box.
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The ball is almost in the catcher's glove.

Now, please explain to me why you think these pitches are not strikes.
The ball is almost in the catcher's glove, but the determination of where the ball was at the time it crossed the plate has already been determined by the ump as well as the pitch tracker/graphic strike zone. The position of the catcher's glove is irrelevant. I know it is deceptive but where the catcher's glove is, is after where they have already decided electronically where the ball was as it crossed the plate.

Please watch the game and watch when they magnify the strike zone and compare where the ball is in the real time imaging and where it is with the enlargement. According to you, because the ball has continued to break between the plate and the catcher's mitt those positions should be different. But they never are. they are always the exact same.
 

onomatopoeia

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The ball is almost in the catcher's glove, but the determination of where the ball was at the time it crossed the plate has already been determined by the ump as well as the pitch tracker/graphic strike zone. The position of the catcher's glove is irrelevant. I know it is deceptive but where the catcher's glove is, is after where they have already decided electronically where the ball was as it crossed the plate.

Please watch the game and watch when they magnify the strike zone and compare where the ball is in the real time imaging and where it is with the enlargement. According to you, because the ball has continued to break between the plate and the catcher's mitt those positions should be different. But they never are. they are always the exact same.
I didn't say any of that. I said the location of the ball, when it crosses the plate, is the only thing that matters. The screen captures in post #s 41 and 42 clearly show the ball crossing the plate while in the strike zone for all three pitches. Look at the first 'yellow streak' screen cap for pitches 1 and 2.

No, I will not be watching and saving today's game.

Pitch tracker has nothing whatsoever to do with the white strike zone rectangle in the video from post #'s 7 or 41. I think that's what has you confused. The white strike zone rectangle is static; it never moves. All it does is show the viewer where the strike zone is. I can't dumb it down any more than that; I've already had to resort to pictures, underlines and coloured text.
 
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