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I got confused. I though you meant the Patriots Tight End who committed suicide on prison - an autopsy revealed he had severe CTE.
 
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No. MLB was able to prove that the difference in the rate of promotions between different races was too insignificant to demonstrate that there was a racial bias. He appealed and lost that as well.

The fact that he caused MLB so much trouble, did not ingratiate him to the league and did in fact weigh into their decisions regarding certain assignments but not in terms of promotions. He made too many games about himself and not the game.

Joe West was 69 when he quit. Not sure if he was the oldest.
 
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dognutz said:
Umps like west and the guy that caused the tigers pitcher the no hitter think they are the show. Umps get massive egos over time. Some hockey refs do too. Old timers like Paul Stewart used to love the no helmet days with the names on the back.
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Reminds me of a story I heard many years ago. A referee told Bobby Clarke to get his stick on the ice for the faceoff. Clarke told him to shut up and that the fans weren't there paying to see him(the ref).
 
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tml said:
Reminds me of a story I heard many years ago. A referee told Bobby Clarke to get his stick on the ice for the faceoff. Clarke told him to shut up and that the fans weren't there paying to see him(the ref).
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Bobby Clarke always was a slimeball.

He fired Roger Nielson when he got cancer and justified it by saying "Well, we didn't tell him to get cancer."
 
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Bobby Clarke always was a slimeball.

He fired Roger Nielson when he got cancer and justified it by saying "Well, we didn't tell him to get cancer."
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While I grudgingly acknowledge his skill and leadership, I didn't care much for his style or ethics. Another Clarke story. In the 70's the Flyer players would meet at a bar or restaurant after a game or practice. One rule: no wives or girlfriends. One time a couple of Flyer players brought their significant others to the get together. No one said anything, but after a few minutes Clarke quietly moved to another table. One by one, the other Flyer players joined him eventually leaving the 2 Flyers and their significant others at the original table on their own. Message sent, message received.

One time I actually sided with Clarke was an incident he had with Paul Henderson. IIRC it happened during one of the anniversaries of the 1972 Canada/Russia summit series. After so many years Henderson made comments critical of Clarke's infamous slash of Kharlamov.. Clarke didn't appreciate the comments, and Henderson went into damage control. I thought it was a bit classless of Henderson to make the comments.
 
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tml said:
I thought it was a bit classless of Henderson to make the comments.
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Do you recall what Henderson said and if so, even though it may have not been appropriate due to its' poor timing, was he wrong in the substance of what he said?
 
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dognutz said:
Umps like west and the guy that caused the tigers pitcher the no hitter think they are the show. Umps get massive egos over time. Some hockey refs do too. Old timers like Paul Stewart used to love the no helmet days with the names on the back.
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Jim Joyce (the ump in the Gallaraga "perfect" game) is a pretty good ump and a decent guy. He admitted he screwed up after seeing the replay, and felt like shit.
He is not in the category of Angel Hernandez.
 
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So Clarke and Pete Rose and Barry Bonds and O.J. Simpson and Aaron Hernandez and Ty Cobb are examples of stand up guys because they won awards?

And I was correct that Henderson apologized for the timing of his comment, not the content itself. Bobby Clarke was a slimeball.
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Wayne Gretzky has won the most Hart Trophies with nine, followed by Gordie Howe with six and Eddie Shore with four. Howie Morenz, Bobby Orr, Bobby Clarke, Alex Ovechkin, and Mario Lemieux have won the award three times each.

That's some elite names right there.
 
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