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Colonialism In The Middle East

Frankfooter

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The question is NOT how a state became the entity that it is, it is simply what king of state it is. As such Pakistan qualifies as an ethno-state.

The US and Canada are both democracies, but they became so under different circumstances. That doesn't change the fact that they're both democracies.
Israel is not a democracy, hammy.
Its an apartheid state committing genocide against its indigenous population.


 

Frankfooter

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Then why do you have the reputation of being the biggest liar on TERB?

Why don't you start a poll asking who lies the most? Guaranteed it would be a runaway.
We are back to this game, more accusations of lying that you have never been able to back up.

shack counter:
27 accusations of lying, 44 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof

Israel and your lying has been debunked repeatedly here.
You support the most evil movement on the planet right now.

 

southpaw

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This one rule for Jews another, for other people, is the definition of an ethnostate.
By your definition, Pakistan is an ethnostate.
Article 41(2) provides that only Muslims can become President and the Prime Minister.
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To prove theft liable to hadd, evidence of two Muslim adult male witnesses, who are pure in Islamic concept, is required. A non-Muslim’s evidence will not be accepted for hadd punishment where the accused is a Muslim.
 
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southpaw

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The discrimination therefore is based on religion, not ethnicity.
I said by your definition.
This one rule for Jews another, for other people, is the definition of an ethnostate.
There are European Jews, Middle Eastern Jews, Ethiopian Jews. Judaism is a religion.

So they both discriminate based on religion.

Can't admit a mistake when you make one. And you accuse me of Desi stubbornness, LOL.
 

southpaw

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I'd be happy if you held all states founded for a particular religion accountable. Whether it is a Jewish state or an Islamic state.

They both discriminate against the people who don't follow their official religion.
 

roddermac

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Isn't everything communism now?
The freedom convoy types were out protesting something or other the other day with 'globalism is communism' signs.
Aren't all freedom movements racist white supremacist right wingers now.
 

southpaw

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So did Germany 80 years ago. And Turkey did 100 or so years ago. So? Neither are any of those given a pass, because they are held accountable, nor do they justify the present one.
Do you see me making excuses for Turkey or Germany? Don't make excuses for Pakistan.

"Minorities are free to practice their religion" and shit like that ... Please.
 

southpaw

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Stop making excuses for Israel and drawing incorrect comparisons.
I'm not making excuses for Israel. I'm saying Pakistan is no different. They also enact laws to wantonly discriminate against their minorities.

The right won't criticize zionists, no matter what, because that would be "antisemitic '.

Thr left won't criticize Muslims, no matter what, because that would be "Islamophobic".
 

Frankfooter

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I'm not making excuses for Israel. I'm saying Pakistan is no different.
There is no apartheid, occupation, blockade or genocide going on in Pakistan.
The brits are gone, there is no colonial government.

They are very different.
 

basketcase

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Sure, basketcase, everyone is now antisemitic,...
No, just you. You have a very length history of using both old-school and new tropes, promoting Jewish conspiracy theories, and supporting overt anti-semites (like seeing no problem with your hero claiming "The Jewish Lobby has subjugated America"
 

basketcase

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Jordan stopped that expansionism in 1949.
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Jordan annexed the West Bank. You have no problem with that even though the PLO did.

How about Turkey's continued subjugation on Northern Cyprus and treatment of Greek Cypriots as second class citizens or their occupation of part of Syria and repression of their Kurdish population? Turkey's a NATO member. Shouldn't they be held to higher standards than non-allied countries?
 
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